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    1. FcukTheTories on

      It definitely *can* be one. I’ve seen it used against women making perfectly reasonable requests like telling people to keep the noise down when they’re blasting music at 02:00

    2. Just_Juggernaut3232 on

      Isn’t it applied to someone because of their behaviour, rather than immutable characteristics? I call my friend a karen all the time when he’s being one.

    3. Alternative_Gap8442 on

      They’ll just be a name change if that’s the case and Courts won’t be able to keep up.

    4. DrNuclearSlav on

      I personally don’t understand why it exists as a word anymore. Originally it referred to a „can I speak to your manager“ type of person, irrespective of gender, yet now everyone uses it as a generalised slur against any woman they disagree with.

      Just use the word „bitch“. We all know that’s what you’re doing anyway. At least own your misogyny like a man.

    5. Maybe you shouldn’t call someone you work with Karen. That is rude and inappropriate

    6. Andrew1990M on

      It was a real shitty thing to do to actual Karen’s, but you never know when these things are going to catch on. Hope it’s just a generational slang that’s gone in my lifetime. 

    7. We just go back to calling people who are behaving like Karens what we used to call them, self absorbed entitled brats who never grew up

    8. Longjumping_Stand889 on

      Yeah reddit and twitter do take great delight in these kind of stereotypes. I think there’s a belief they are ‚punching up‘ but quite often it seems they are just punching.

    9. Psittacula2 on

      By the same logic is “Peter Pan” also ageist, sexist and so on? Just curious how the law figures these things out?

    10. Ill_Professional6747 on

      Nonsense! I used to call my middle-aged white boss Karen all the time, and she was totally fine with it.

      I guess it helped that her actual name was Karen, but idk

    11. WebDevWarrior on

      What if her first name is actually Karen?

      Do we call her Voldermort (she who shall not be named) to avoid liability? **/S**

    12. Maybe just stop using derogatory terms for your coworkers? If someone is doing something wrong, complain about the thing they are doing wrong rather than using a slur against them.

      Slurs against protected characteristics are particularly bad, but slurs against other characteristics are not acceptable either.

    13. Little girls born in the 60s and 70s were probably the first ones to be encouraged to stand up for themselves and to be unafraid to speak out. The problem is that now we’re menopausal and irrationally angry.

    14. shuffleyyy1992 on

      Nah being a Karen is an attitude issue, not a race, gender or age issue, my 5 year old son can be the biggest Karen sometimes…

    15. martzgregpaul on

      The people who are most upset at the word Karen are generally people who want to act like Karens but not be pulled up on their behaviour.

      Dont want to be called one? Dont act like one.

    16. Valuable-Ad-1477 on

      If the only reason they’re being called a Karen is because they’re white and middle ages then yeah, it’s definitely a slur

    17. My daughter calls me Karen bc I have a short hair cut and im opinionated lol 😂

    18. Responsible-Cap-6510 on

      It’s fucking stupid is what it is

      Dismissing anyone even slightly older as Karen or boomer whom you don’t agree with for whatever reason is really stupid

    19. MediocreDisplay7233 on

      It’s the same thing as calling people nazis – there are absolutely people who are deserving of this slur based on the fascist, xenophobic, misogynistic shit that comes from their mouths. But if you call someone a Nazi because they don’t think Rachel Zegler made a good Snow White then it kind of cheapens the meaning of it

    20. TraditionalBench7008 on

      As the accused Bullies in this case, we want to state that calling Bullies „bullies“ is the real crime.

    21. New-Excitement5224 on

      So we have finally arrived at white people can experience racism? This is going to get very interesting very fast

    22. SuspiciousAgency5025 on

      How is it racist when we call anyone who behaves like that a “Karen”? They could be 25 or 75, too. It’s the behaviour, not the race/age.

    23. 2anglosexual4u on

      A slur is about intent and if you’re purposefully using a word to associate negative traits and characteristics with a specific race/ethnic background/gender then I could easily see the argument for it being racist/sexist. Afaik it originated in the US aimed at supposedly obnoxious middle-aged White American women but it’s use apparently got broadened at some point. It’s original use was definitely aimed at a specific race and gender though.

    24. I stopped at starbucks once with my son and after a long wait after paying ( they were serving all the drive through people first ) they gave me the wrong coffee . I looked in it and told him and he said dont be a karen just drink it so i didnt complain . This is a thing .

    25. Darn, how did we manage with:

      * A right Charlie
      * Richard Head, also known as Dick
      * Fanny
      * Coco
      * Justin (…time), (…. poorly endowed)
      * Tarquin
      * Tom,Dick and Harry
      * Adolf

      I’m sure we can think of many more, but I gues Karen is in vogue.

    26. PandaPrimary3421 on

      Sounds like a proper Karen was acting up in work, and went to a tribunal and used this nonsense as their defence 

    27. It is, and always was, the new word for people who think they’re progressive but deep down like to call women bitches.

    28. somnamna2516 on

      I call my ex one and she’s thai, but has all the characteristics of “Karen” behaviour (her having a 30 minute meltdown in a ‘spoons after erroneously thinking she’d been shortchanged £1 was classic example) there’s also ‘Ken’ (IIRC) naming convention for blokes showing the same entitled speak-tomanager behaviour

    29. VehicleWonderful6586 on

      It’s the opposite way around – suggesting an entire age group, gender or race behaves like a Karen would be racist sexist and ageist.

    30. Special_Earth_4957 on

      Who is acting so unprofessional to call someone a Karen in the workplace? It’s clearly not something that should be said in a process setting, same as boomer.

    31. I always felt it described a behaviour, rather than a specific race or gender. The ageist bit is the only one that holds water, imo, since it isn’t something I’d apply to overly entitled teenagers

    32. Weird-Statistician on

      People are generally branded a Karen because of their behaviour and attitude rather than their Race, Sex or Age. Don’t be a nob and you won’t be called a Karen.

    33. Do you know how many black/asian women also get called Karen? Call it a slur if you want, but to call it racist is stupid beyond belief

    34. Worldly_Client_7614 on

      Hypothetical if the term is classed as a „racist, sexist and ageist slur“ and i called a women a karen but she is in fact being an aggressive ignorant and argumentive individual

      Would it still be illegal?

      Like the word karen is used based on a descriptive specific type of individual (normally an ignorant argumentive middle age woman)

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