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      For *China Considered*, [Elizabeth Economy](https://www.hoover.org/profiles/elizabeth-economy) interviews Ely Ratner, principal at the Marathon Initiative, about the possibility of a US-led Pacific Defense Pact among like-minded Asian states to counter China. As the author of a recent [*Foreign Affairs* piece](https://www.foreignaffairs.com/china/case-pacific-defense-pact-ely-ratner) on the same topic, Ratner says his time spent working in the Biden administration was spent building “a constellation” of partnerships with like-minded Asian states, developing ways to counter China’s military threat. He and Economy agree the new US-Asia security agreements look nothing like NATO, but many Asian states have become concerned about the Chinese security threat on their own, without US encouragement. 

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