Die Demokraten müssen sich ihrer Gerontokratie konfrontieren – die Partei braucht eine höfliche Möglichkeit, Politiker in den Ruhestand zu bringen.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/06/us-needs-polite-way-usher-politicians-out/683230/

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    1. AlexandrTheTolerable on

      From the article:

      To a degree that seems bizarre to me, the American party system, particularly on the Democratic side, defers to incumbents. Since the 2022 midterm election, eight Democratic members of Congress have died in office.

      Instead of facing massive public pressure from Democrats to retire before Obama left office, the liberal justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg was rewarded with cutesy interviews about her workout program and indomitable spirit. This came at a high cost for American women a few years later, when a 6–3 conservative majority overturned Roe v. Wade. What was presented as perseverance now looks like narcissism. The court needs me. No other Democratic appointee will do.

      The most incredible story remains that of Kay Granger, an 81-year-old Republican, who missed six months of votes in Congress before she was discovered in an assisted-living facility. Her family had put her there without notifying her constituents or the media. She has “dementia issues,” her son said.

      What America needs are stronger parties that are able to exert influence on their members for the greater good. The Democrat and Republican establishments are clearly now ghostly shadows of what they once were. Worn away by money and polarization, they are useless husks. The Republicans cower in the face of Trump’s bullying, and the Democrats lack the killer instinct necessary to eject frail and faltering liabilities.

    2. ClimateSociologist on

      Congress, the Supreme Court, and presidency should all have a mandatory retirement age.

    3. Pristine-Ant-464 on

      It doesn’t need to be polite at this point. We’re in the middle of a fascist takeover.

    4. Monsieur_Hulot_Jr on

      Polite nothing. Biden screwed us, RBG screwed us, it goes on and on. People don’t deserve forever power just cause they can bring home the bacon or think they deserve it.

    5. entrepenurious on

      i am 77, almost 78, and i see AOC, jasmine crockett, etc as the future of the party.

      they are who i’d vote for, anyway.

    6. Hey NYC Democratic primary voters, this article is directed at you! Please for all that is good, do NOT nominate Cuomo. Take a moment and research the other candidates, get over this ridiculous phobia of supporting candidates whose career you haven’t followed for 30+ years.

    7. DarthHiccups on

      It ain’t just the Democrats. Get real. Republicans will stay in office up until their last breath is drawn to hold onto that power. Look at Glitch McConnell. Guy could have retired years ago, but the influence and power kept him in office. Now he’s just a powerless turtle, since MAGA runs everything, and Trump hates him. So naturally, NOW he decides since he can’t do anything anymore, it’s time to retire.

    8. No fuck that polite shit. How many times has the left been burnt trying to „politely usher out“ old, decrepit mfers? How many times have they bypassed vibrant, aggressive younger Dems for positions only to push in yet another person far too old?

      I’m speaking as a 53 yo progressive. Already at 53, I’m starting to lose touch with the desires and issues facing younger people. I’m not „out of touch“ quite yet but by 60-65, my concerns aren’t necessarily going to be their concerns and vice versa. That perfectly fine and normal for rank and file voters but when officeholders can’t/won’t relate to my concerns **or** the younger generations concerns and are only holding power for the sake of power, they have to go.

    9. RangerMother on

      Throw a party, honor them, add emeritus after their name, show them the door.

    10. Heavy_Revolution on

      Nah, it doesn’t need to be polite. This preoccupation with politeness is how we ended up with the cryptkeeper caucus still occupying some of the most important positions of power in our society. The simple fact of the matter is if the Vietnam war was ever an issue in your political consciousness, you’re too fucking old. Make that desert storm 1 (maybe a little bit earlier) and now we’re on the right track.

      And the party needs to say that, „We will not be supporting x,y, or z in this election because there is a significant chance that due to their advanced age they will experience decline during their tenure, as a responsible political party we cannot support a candidate that would be unable to exercise their constituency’s will“.

      The next step should be, „We’re supporting this younger candidate in this primary, even though it might make the race more contestable for the opposition, we’re confident that people will see we’re not afraid of democracy in action and we’ll do our absolute best to make sure you’re represented through this candidate“.

      Problem is, they are unwilling to break with long-standing Washington consensuses on topics such as „the U.S.’s role in world affairs, the military budget, economic policy, etc. etc.“ They want the electorate to get stoked for 90s era Clintonite policy with at best, some moderate tinkering around the edges. That is simply not going to happen. I don’t know many people my age who conceive of Neoliberalism as a resounding success, especially because they were too young to have ever seen any sort of direct benefit.

      At this point, who cares how great the Clinton economy was? We’ve seen how it turned out, regardless of how great it must’ve been, it lead us to moneyed interests having more sway over the political process at nearly every level from national down to city politics. „What have you done for me lately?“ is a concept that is not unknown. But it’s a concept that helps win elections if you’re actually willing to do for people lately and can show a track record that supports that instead of empty rhetoric.

      The political sphere is awash in talk, that talk needs to get in line or get gone. Sending 10 different people out to yap about their own particular views and beliefs isn’t doing it. It dilutes the message if we’re hearing 10 different life stories. Are these things good governance because of their life story (a life story strangely, that everyone does not share) or because they’re actually desirable policy? The case needs to be made that it’s good policy, because it is, not because someone saw their single mother struggling or x issue effected their sister like this and came to this position as a result.

      We need conformity to a plan. We need people in the party who don’t conform to that plan to get drummed the fuck out and stop enjoying automatic support just cause they chose to put a D next to their name. States wanna go full red? Great, let’s make them actually own their failures when they inevitably fail. Instead of glad handing and legitimizing them by getting them to come hang out on the campaign bus and talking about how much respect we have for them while their constituency is fucking miserable. We need a project 2029 and we need sign ons to the project and we need to hold them accountable if they don’t execute.

    11. They aren’t, politely, going anywhere. Which reminds me: it’s time to call my Senators again and tell them to boot Schumer from leadership or I’m voting against them in the primaries and won’t vote for them in the General if they still prevail.

    12. Polite way? No. Tell them to just straight leave. This is politics, not your buddy.

      If you’re in the way of my and others rights and progress, get the fuck out.

    13. Trick_Judgment2639 on

      It’s not just politics, boomers have an iron skeletal grip on the jobs market, they refuse to give up jobs because they know they destroyed the economy when they were younger but won’t admit it.

    14. d_e_l_u_x_e on

      You can’t because America has a problem with the elderly. They aren’t valued or taken care of unless they have money or power. Whole generations work until their dead because they made this work their life and fear their own irrelevancy without it.

      Plus younger people enjoy riding the coattails and make a living keeping older people in power.

    15. Grampishdgreat on

      Being someone who is pushing 70 I agree wholeheartedly with the premise that the old farts need to get out of the way. The younger people in this nation are the ones who are going to have to deal with the problems so they should be the ones making the decisions.

    16. Most of the highlighted younger people going into politics are right-wing, evangelical lunatics. The few I’ve seen in the Democratic Party are people we already know, but have a ways to go.

      The problem is those older members are also the adults in the room. I am very nervous for the day when Marjorie Taylor Greene, Sarah Huckabee & Ron DeSantis replace the fossils in the republican side – none of these people can work well with anyone & are one-issue fluffheads who won’t listen to reason.

    17. There are several 79 and 80+year-old Dems but there are also old Republicans as well. Chuck Grassley, Republican senator, is now 90! Yes, they all should be cleared out of Congress.

    18. Funkytowel360 on

      Needed yes, polite? Fuck no. Ruth Bader Ginsburg selfish holding on created a the worst supreme court the united states ever had.  get the sunset era out of the democrats party. There too lazy or to old to do there job.

    19. The crazy thing is Schumer’s cognitive dissonance around this entire matter.

    20. I don’t understand why it has to be polite.

      There is nothing polite about what they are doing. It’s narcissism, elitism, and entitlement.

      They need to go period. It’s not just the democrats. People can decline quickly and without much warning after 60. These days medicine and research has probably extended that window to 70, some people will remain sharp until they’re 80 or 90. Most will not.

      70should be the cap for anyone being elected for a term. 73 should be a mandatory step down process for any title appointed or elected. I honestly would prefer it to be the retirement age according to SSA, which I believe is 67.

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