„Two fugitives wanted for murder and child rape in Brazil have successfully used Britain’s human rights laws to avoid extradition.
Marlon Martins Dos Santos and Nicolas Gomes De Brito have both successfully fought extradition to Brazil after claiming it would breach their rights under Article 3 of the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR), which protects against torture and inhuman treatment.
Dos Santos was sentenced to 14 years in jail in Brazil for repeatedly raping a five year-old girl but by then he had already fled to the UK. A British judge refused Brazil’s extradition request on the basis that it would violate his Article 3 rights. In April he was convicted of possessing and distributing more than 1,000 images of child abuse, including the most serious category.“
Just superb.
FaceMace87 on
I wonder if Parliament realise it is sovereign and is only bound by the ECHR as much as they allow it.
Worldly_Table_5092 on
I don’t know who is running this EC HR department but I think we should get rid of them.
Lower_Performer_3365 on
Very glad these stories are reaching non right wing press. My friend worked at the home office and quit for this exact reason – disgusted by the actions of judges and civil servants
Macca80s on
What are the consequences of ignoring the judgement?
65Freddy on
When will we get a government with a set of balls that will kick the European human rights into touch it cost so many litany so much money it’s unbelievable
rndreddituser on
I would prefer that we don’t come out of / repeal anything to do with ECHR. These are just steps, much like the US, designed to lurch to the right. Fascism isn’t a good look.
Manual_Pipe on
A balanced approach would be for them to serve their sentences over here (and Brazil pay for it)
Professional_Ad747 on
The British media are going to use these extreme instances of minorities committing crimes to convince a racist populace they should leave the ECHR and reduce their own legal protections.
George_Hayman on
The elites don’t care about your safety, or that of your kids. Or at least not as much as they care about Britain’s international ‘obligations’ and how we’re perceived abroad. The bureaucracy only cares about blindly following the bureaucratic rules.
LonelyStranger8467 on
We apply our own morals and insanely high standards to other countries to apply their own laws against their own citizens.
Brazil has a functioning government and justice system, let them do what they want.
Glad-Lynx-5007 on
So he entered the UK as an immigrant and I’m guessing didn’t admit he was already charged in Brazil, so he’s lied on this immigration form and therefore should be kicked out of the country anyway? I mean, that’s what would happen in a real country
Majestic-Computer443 on
Weird how they didn’t have any concerns about inhuman treatment of their victims but expect themselves to be coddled.
dope567fum on
You’s do know that these news stories are being used to condition you to eventually want to remove the ECHR.
The real reason they want the ECHR gone is so they can take away ALL of OUR human rights?
Sleepwalking into our own doom.
SuperrVillain85 on
It’s surprising that the Conservative government of the day didn’t apparently try to seek any assurances from the Brazilian authorities in order to satisfy the Court’s concerns about torture or inhumane treatment.
GoochBlender on
Why are we just allowing our country to become a haven for the world’s scum?
OinkyDoinky13 on
There are bound to be cases where the system gets misused like any system. We don’t remove accessible parking just because a few people use them without blue badges. Where are the articles about the many entirely deserved people the ECHR has saved from torture and abuse?
throwthrowthrow529 on
This is why we need tougher laws on immigration.
It’s not about skin colour etc. it’s about knowing who exactly is in the country and the circumstances.
How can a Brazilian wanted for murder have pre-settled status in the UK.
How is a convicted murder and wanted child rapist allowed to come here? Why are we not fucking these people off the second they land.
But Mike Tyson and lil Wayne aren’t allowed to be here?
Ambitious_Garbage859 on
Who on earth ruled that? a man who committed such a horrific act shouldn’t be allowed to stay here Why would we want him here why does some one who did something like that get to avoid his sentence and why is he allowed to remain here under the premise his human rights would be breached when he ignores rights laws and decency
Comrade-Hayley on
This is the kind of case reform will use to get rid of the HRA keep in mind that’s the same act that prevents the police from kicking in your door and tossing you in a cell for the rest of your life with no due process for calling Nigel Farage a fucking clown idk about anyone else but being lgbtq+ and hating Farage with a passion I’d take a handful of cases of scum like this getting away with it than thousands or millions of cases of people being disappeared by the state
Diligent_Craft_1165 on
The courts have too much power. I’m sure no politician agrees with this so we need to remove some of their powers.
RyanMcCartney on
I’m sure we are part of the ECHR for many reasons, but with this specific case, we should not be saving a paedophile from the consequences of his actions.
Now I’m not condoning it, but don’t prison populations here dish out similar justice to these sick individuals anymore?
One way of another I hope consequences find him.
ConsiderationBig5728 on
Brexit was such a success I think we should leave everything and just be a 2nd rate nation stuck on a little island who blame brown people for everything.
dope567fum on
The amount of dipshits in England is staggering. As stupid as Americans
H1ghlyVolatile on
And they wonder why the birth rate is going down? Why would I bring someone into a country that allows sex offenders to stay here?
Nah, I’ll spare them the misery.
hyperlobster on
Setting aside our (presumably unanimous) moral repulsion to what these chaps have been convicted of, what’s the legal route from here?
Assuming (and I’m willing to be schooled here) that Westminster Magistrates is not the final legal stop, who needs to make what representations to which legal body to get this pair of cunts on a plane to Brazil, their actual home country?
My concern is that repeated occurrences like this, with their concomitant publicity, risk sending the message that if you live in a place with a less-than-Nordic prison system, and you get convicted of something for which your soon-to-be fellow convicts have little empathy, you can just piss off to the UK, and you’ll be peachy.
tl;dr: what’s stopping a higher court just turning their visas off?
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„Two fugitives wanted for murder and child rape in Brazil have successfully used Britain’s human rights laws to avoid extradition.
Marlon Martins Dos Santos and Nicolas Gomes De Brito have both successfully fought extradition to Brazil after claiming it would breach their rights under Article 3 of the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR), which protects against torture and inhuman treatment.
Dos Santos was sentenced to 14 years in jail in Brazil for repeatedly raping a five year-old girl but by then he had already fled to the UK. A British judge refused Brazil’s extradition request on the basis that it would violate his Article 3 rights. In April he was convicted of possessing and distributing more than 1,000 images of child abuse, including the most serious category.“
Just superb.
I wonder if Parliament realise it is sovereign and is only bound by the ECHR as much as they allow it.
I don’t know who is running this EC HR department but I think we should get rid of them.
Very glad these stories are reaching non right wing press. My friend worked at the home office and quit for this exact reason – disgusted by the actions of judges and civil servants
What are the consequences of ignoring the judgement?
When will we get a government with a set of balls that will kick the European human rights into touch it cost so many litany so much money it’s unbelievable
I would prefer that we don’t come out of / repeal anything to do with ECHR. These are just steps, much like the US, designed to lurch to the right. Fascism isn’t a good look.
A balanced approach would be for them to serve their sentences over here (and Brazil pay for it)
The British media are going to use these extreme instances of minorities committing crimes to convince a racist populace they should leave the ECHR and reduce their own legal protections.
The elites don’t care about your safety, or that of your kids. Or at least not as much as they care about Britain’s international ‘obligations’ and how we’re perceived abroad. The bureaucracy only cares about blindly following the bureaucratic rules.
We apply our own morals and insanely high standards to other countries to apply their own laws against their own citizens.
Brazil has a functioning government and justice system, let them do what they want.
So he entered the UK as an immigrant and I’m guessing didn’t admit he was already charged in Brazil, so he’s lied on this immigration form and therefore should be kicked out of the country anyway? I mean, that’s what would happen in a real country
Weird how they didn’t have any concerns about inhuman treatment of their victims but expect themselves to be coddled.
You’s do know that these news stories are being used to condition you to eventually want to remove the ECHR.
The real reason they want the ECHR gone is so they can take away ALL of OUR human rights?
Sleepwalking into our own doom.
It’s surprising that the Conservative government of the day didn’t apparently try to seek any assurances from the Brazilian authorities in order to satisfy the Court’s concerns about torture or inhumane treatment.
Why are we just allowing our country to become a haven for the world’s scum?
There are bound to be cases where the system gets misused like any system. We don’t remove accessible parking just because a few people use them without blue badges. Where are the articles about the many entirely deserved people the ECHR has saved from torture and abuse?
This is why we need tougher laws on immigration.
It’s not about skin colour etc. it’s about knowing who exactly is in the country and the circumstances.
How can a Brazilian wanted for murder have pre-settled status in the UK.
How is a convicted murder and wanted child rapist allowed to come here? Why are we not fucking these people off the second they land.
But Mike Tyson and lil Wayne aren’t allowed to be here?
Who on earth ruled that? a man who committed such a horrific act shouldn’t be allowed to stay here Why would we want him here why does some one who did something like that get to avoid his sentence and why is he allowed to remain here under the premise his human rights would be breached when he ignores rights laws and decency
This is the kind of case reform will use to get rid of the HRA keep in mind that’s the same act that prevents the police from kicking in your door and tossing you in a cell for the rest of your life with no due process for calling Nigel Farage a fucking clown idk about anyone else but being lgbtq+ and hating Farage with a passion I’d take a handful of cases of scum like this getting away with it than thousands or millions of cases of people being disappeared by the state
The courts have too much power. I’m sure no politician agrees with this so we need to remove some of their powers.
I’m sure we are part of the ECHR for many reasons, but with this specific case, we should not be saving a paedophile from the consequences of his actions.
Now I’m not condoning it, but don’t prison populations here dish out similar justice to these sick individuals anymore?
One way of another I hope consequences find him.
Brexit was such a success I think we should leave everything and just be a 2nd rate nation stuck on a little island who blame brown people for everything.
The amount of dipshits in England is staggering. As stupid as Americans
And they wonder why the birth rate is going down? Why would I bring someone into a country that allows sex offenders to stay here?
Nah, I’ll spare them the misery.
Setting aside our (presumably unanimous) moral repulsion to what these chaps have been convicted of, what’s the legal route from here?
Assuming (and I’m willing to be schooled here) that Westminster Magistrates is not the final legal stop, who needs to make what representations to which legal body to get this pair of cunts on a plane to Brazil, their actual home country?
My concern is that repeated occurrences like this, with their concomitant publicity, risk sending the message that if you live in a place with a less-than-Nordic prison system, and you get convicted of something for which your soon-to-be fellow convicts have little empathy, you can just piss off to the UK, and you’ll be peachy.
tl;dr: what’s stopping a higher court just turning their visas off?