Children die of asthma and starvation and routinely get killed in school in a country with 11 aircraft carriers worth about 10 billion dollars apiece.
Salsa1988 on
From the outside looking in, it clearly has already failed. I no longer view America as a world leader. It’s a decrepit empire that is crumbling before our eyes.
Agnos on
Depends on what happens during the midterm election….
clearly_cunning on
This isn’t the first time that I’ve seen something along these lines…[here](https://youtu.be/xguam0TKMw8?si=wp4SYfowJ5-pvtGC) is a really good 45-minute video that walks through the whole process, and you can definitely draw parallels.
I would typically say that the U.S.’s election cycles are close enough together to prevent the ultimate downward spiral, but Trump and the GOP had 4 years to prepare for this after losing power last time, so they were exceptionally prepared this time, and have already been semi-successful in eliminating guardrails that would keep them in check. We are 15 months away from mid-terms, and I’m not confident that those guardrails (lower federal courts, etc.,) can withstand the constant pressure they’re under.
We’ll know in a year, I guess…
invalidpassword on
The minute Trump took office — maybe even before.
Silly-Raise7754 on
It failed the moment it re-elected a convicted criminal and insurrectionist. Sure, it had deep flaws before that, but also an undercurrent of progress and attempts at self improvement. The re-election of Trump, however, showed that a chunk of the population simply did not care to live in a civil society anymore.
What else to expect when you join the ranks of Trump Steaks, Trump University, Trump Casino, and Trump Water? Pure and abject failure.
Ozymanadidas on
Can I say Fascism yet? Deploying National Guard to deal with protests seems like Fascism to me.
No-Access-2790 on
Any nation in which children don’t eat or people can go bankrupt from being sick is already a failed state. This isn’t new, just has more of the dramatic elements now.
Maximum_Tea_5934 on
On the path? The path has been paved and the speed limit removed.
mostdope28 on
GOP decided them having power is more important than anything else
Code9DKnight on
Yes — it’s not just about Trump or the GOP. They’re catalysts, not the root cause. What we’re seeing is a population that largely voted based on a single issue: their bank accounts. And in doing so, handed over a full mandate with no real checks and balances.
This is the moment when democracy begins to unravel — not with a dramatic collapse, but with a quiet shift driven by short-term self-interest and a disregard for broader consequences. A vote may seem like a small act, but it’s deeply consequential. It should be thoughtful, informed, and deliberate.
Now it’s too late to change what’s already been set in motion. Everything’s up in the air. All we can do is wait and see how the next four years unfold — and hope the midterms offer a course correction.
If you’re serious about changing things, don’t just focus on the presidential level. Real, lasting impact often starts locally. Get involved. Organize. Pay attention to your state and local politics — because that’s where momentum builds, and where democracy can still be defended.
This all came to me as I walked through the quiet, charming streets of Springfield, Illinois — right in front of the home where Abraham Lincoln began his political career. A reminder that even in uncertain times, leadership and civic responsibility begin with ordinary people, in ordinary places.
Impressive_Wish796 on
It was failed the day an orangutan in a suit came down the escalator in 2016.
mckulty on
The official White House term, for public media purposes, is „shithole country.“
3DNZ on
Based on historical data, the current US debt and spending on its military, all markers are there for a collapse, which seems to be accelerated by the current administration. In all fairness it started long ago, but looks on track to collapse within the next couple of years if the US defaults on its loans.
Oh, we’re a failed state right now. I sincerely hope we’ll let the red states secede. Then we can treat with them under international law and force them to give concessions, such as conforming to democratic norms, protecting civil rights, putting up their own troops to do their part in border security, etc.
At the same time we (blue states– I’m in a red state which I wish would defect) could create a brain drain and incentivize people to move to the blue states: relax immigration rules and give amnesty, provide a path to citizenship, offer education and try to attract the intellectual elites, such as students and faculty at Auburn, student loan forgiveness, etc.
This country is irretrievably divided. We need to start over. The blue states would control commerce and the military. A new blue country would be the North American hegemon and be able to control the pace of events.
Rich_Information8849 on
People asking questions everyone answered already back in 2016.
iamsumo on
This is a powerful, sobering piece—and it’s absolutely right about the trajectory we’re on. But we can’t just pin this collapse on the extremists who openly dismantle institutions while waving flags and slogans. We also need to reckon with the centrists—the so-called pragmatists in the Democratic Party—who enabled this descent by prioritizing „normalcy“ and institutional decorum over moral clarity and structural reform.
While Trump and his movement lit the match, centrist Democrats spent years refusing to even acknowledge there was a fire. Faced with escalating authoritarian rhetoric, violent white nationalism, and blatant attacks on democracy, they offered milquetoast appeals to bipartisanship. When bold action was needed to shore up democratic norms—expanding the courts, ending the filibuster, passing voting rights protections—they chose not to “rock the boat.” They clung to outdated ideals of compromise with a party that had already abandoned democracy.
They told us the system would self-correct. That norms would hold. That things would go back to the way they were. But the reality is: institutions don’t save themselves. They must be defended—and when necessary, reimagined. Instead, centrist leadership often served as a brake on meaningful change, more concerned with appeasing donors, preserving elite consensus, and maintaining market confidence than defending the people most vulnerable to authoritarian rule.
They failed to hold the GOP accountable after the insurrection. They rejected court reform and structural democracy protections. They scolded protest movements for being “divisive.” And they kept insisting on civility in the face of rising fascism—as though moderation were a shield against collapse.
This isn’t just about Trump or his enablers. It’s also about those who, through timidity and self-preservation, refused to confront the threat until it was too late. The centrists helped normalize the abnormal and legitimize the illegitimate. Their failure to act decisively when it still mattered is part of why we are where we are.
History won’t just judge those who grabbed the torch—it will also judge those who politely stood by and watched it burn.
EDIT: I should add that we also can’t ignore the role of the mainstream press in this collapse either. For years, major news outlets normalized Trump and the far right in the name of “balance,” treating existential threats to democracy as just another angle in the partisan horse race. They platformed lies, framed fascism as populism, and obsessed over tone while ignoring substance. Even now, with institutions under siege, they cling to both-sidesism and false equivalency—afraid to call authoritarianism by its name until it’s too late. Journalism is supposed to speak truth to power, not launder it for ratings. In this failure, they were not neutral observers. They were active participants.
SaltyPinKY on
Yes… and all we had to do was keep taxing corporations and no outside money in elections.
TheCzar11 on
I think it’s more of a pre-war world I state currently with the corruption, political environment, quacks, scams, industrialists, monopoly/oligarchies, lack of rule of law, etc. It does not have to stay this way but will take work but I will say the majority of people don’t want this. Trump won one of the smallest victories ever. His opponents are larger but somewhat divided and he controls the government and enforcement levers currently.
Fillerbear on
On the path?
Buddy, the US already *was* a failed state that remained somewhat functional despite it, that is, until somewhat recently.
brighteyedjordan on
It is a failed state. It’s not becoming. It’s there. Massive skyrocketing debt, authoritarian leader, military police and secret police, corruption running rampant, oligarchs in control of media and government services. If that was any country is Asia or Africa we’d be calling it a failed state and America would be invading them for their oil.
KaleLate4894 on
Most people live day to day and how things affect them directly. Inflation was bad snd they had to blame someone.
Until the turmoil affects Americans don’t see much change.
Now as failed state, politically it has been since citizens united by the right and unlimited political funding.
Economically just can’t see the debt ending well.
negativepositiv on
Guy who has spent the last 20 years every day waking up, drinking until he passes out, later waking up and drinking until he passes out again might be on the path to becoming an alcoholic.
BlackJediSword on
The United States needs a major overhaul of its government including how officials get elected. That would never happen so therefore the US is a failed state in my opinion. Any country with free elections capable of electing Donald Trump not once, but twice is a failed state. Any country with more incarcerated people than the rest of the world is a failed state. Not to mention how we have kids whose parents need fundraisers to pay off student lunch debt. Crumbling infrastructure. Open racism, xenophobia and sexism.
Rooted707 on
It was failed the moment W. Bush was allowed to steal the election.
Obama was an opportunity to reverse course but he doubled down on some of the worst aspects of Bush and didn’t jail the bankers.
You can thank Obama for Trump being able to grab people off the streets and send them to El Salvador without a trial
OlorinRidesAgain on
If it is, its only because we let it by sitting idly by and throwing tantrums in 2016 and 2024. Democracy isnt perfect and its not like a succulent you water once and walk away from. It needs checking in. When you do not the garden get run over by weeds and vermin.
It’s *failing.* It hasn’t *failed.* This administration is moving at breakneck speed. Everything is half-assed. They are not charismatic enough to pull off what they envision.
If they were, they wouldn’t have needed Donald Trump to begin with. Think about all of the things he’s failed at, even with being a nepo baby.
We can still rein it in.
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Too late. It already is.
Children die of asthma and starvation and routinely get killed in school in a country with 11 aircraft carriers worth about 10 billion dollars apiece.
From the outside looking in, it clearly has already failed. I no longer view America as a world leader. It’s a decrepit empire that is crumbling before our eyes.
Depends on what happens during the midterm election….
This isn’t the first time that I’ve seen something along these lines…[here](https://youtu.be/xguam0TKMw8?si=wp4SYfowJ5-pvtGC) is a really good 45-minute video that walks through the whole process, and you can definitely draw parallels.
I would typically say that the U.S.’s election cycles are close enough together to prevent the ultimate downward spiral, but Trump and the GOP had 4 years to prepare for this after losing power last time, so they were exceptionally prepared this time, and have already been semi-successful in eliminating guardrails that would keep them in check. We are 15 months away from mid-terms, and I’m not confident that those guardrails (lower federal courts, etc.,) can withstand the constant pressure they’re under.
We’ll know in a year, I guess…
The minute Trump took office — maybe even before.
It failed the moment it re-elected a convicted criminal and insurrectionist. Sure, it had deep flaws before that, but also an undercurrent of progress and attempts at self improvement. The re-election of Trump, however, showed that a chunk of the population simply did not care to live in a civil society anymore.
What else to expect when you join the ranks of Trump Steaks, Trump University, Trump Casino, and Trump Water? Pure and abject failure.
Can I say Fascism yet? Deploying National Guard to deal with protests seems like Fascism to me.
Any nation in which children don’t eat or people can go bankrupt from being sick is already a failed state. This isn’t new, just has more of the dramatic elements now.
On the path? The path has been paved and the speed limit removed.
GOP decided them having power is more important than anything else
Yes — it’s not just about Trump or the GOP. They’re catalysts, not the root cause. What we’re seeing is a population that largely voted based on a single issue: their bank accounts. And in doing so, handed over a full mandate with no real checks and balances.
This is the moment when democracy begins to unravel — not with a dramatic collapse, but with a quiet shift driven by short-term self-interest and a disregard for broader consequences. A vote may seem like a small act, but it’s deeply consequential. It should be thoughtful, informed, and deliberate.
Now it’s too late to change what’s already been set in motion. Everything’s up in the air. All we can do is wait and see how the next four years unfold — and hope the midterms offer a course correction.
If you’re serious about changing things, don’t just focus on the presidential level. Real, lasting impact often starts locally. Get involved. Organize. Pay attention to your state and local politics — because that’s where momentum builds, and where democracy can still be defended.
This all came to me as I walked through the quiet, charming streets of Springfield, Illinois — right in front of the home where Abraham Lincoln began his political career. A reminder that even in uncertain times, leadership and civic responsibility begin with ordinary people, in ordinary places.
It was failed the day an orangutan in a suit came down the escalator in 2016.
The official White House term, for public media purposes, is „shithole country.“
Based on historical data, the current US debt and spending on its military, all markers are there for a collapse, which seems to be accelerated by the current administration. In all fairness it started long ago, but looks on track to collapse within the next couple of years if the US defaults on its loans.
[Here’s a sobering look at it](https://youtu.be/vWHkTLzeGPk?si=YnibZuoYW9pvKVUl)
Oh, we’re a failed state right now. I sincerely hope we’ll let the red states secede. Then we can treat with them under international law and force them to give concessions, such as conforming to democratic norms, protecting civil rights, putting up their own troops to do their part in border security, etc.
At the same time we (blue states– I’m in a red state which I wish would defect) could create a brain drain and incentivize people to move to the blue states: relax immigration rules and give amnesty, provide a path to citizenship, offer education and try to attract the intellectual elites, such as students and faculty at Auburn, student loan forgiveness, etc.
This country is irretrievably divided. We need to start over. The blue states would control commerce and the military. A new blue country would be the North American hegemon and be able to control the pace of events.
People asking questions everyone answered already back in 2016.
This is a powerful, sobering piece—and it’s absolutely right about the trajectory we’re on. But we can’t just pin this collapse on the extremists who openly dismantle institutions while waving flags and slogans. We also need to reckon with the centrists—the so-called pragmatists in the Democratic Party—who enabled this descent by prioritizing „normalcy“ and institutional decorum over moral clarity and structural reform.
While Trump and his movement lit the match, centrist Democrats spent years refusing to even acknowledge there was a fire. Faced with escalating authoritarian rhetoric, violent white nationalism, and blatant attacks on democracy, they offered milquetoast appeals to bipartisanship. When bold action was needed to shore up democratic norms—expanding the courts, ending the filibuster, passing voting rights protections—they chose not to “rock the boat.” They clung to outdated ideals of compromise with a party that had already abandoned democracy.
They told us the system would self-correct. That norms would hold. That things would go back to the way they were. But the reality is: institutions don’t save themselves. They must be defended—and when necessary, reimagined. Instead, centrist leadership often served as a brake on meaningful change, more concerned with appeasing donors, preserving elite consensus, and maintaining market confidence than defending the people most vulnerable to authoritarian rule.
They failed to hold the GOP accountable after the insurrection. They rejected court reform and structural democracy protections. They scolded protest movements for being “divisive.” And they kept insisting on civility in the face of rising fascism—as though moderation were a shield against collapse.
This isn’t just about Trump or his enablers. It’s also about those who, through timidity and self-preservation, refused to confront the threat until it was too late. The centrists helped normalize the abnormal and legitimize the illegitimate. Their failure to act decisively when it still mattered is part of why we are where we are.
History won’t just judge those who grabbed the torch—it will also judge those who politely stood by and watched it burn.
EDIT: I should add that we also can’t ignore the role of the mainstream press in this collapse either. For years, major news outlets normalized Trump and the far right in the name of “balance,” treating existential threats to democracy as just another angle in the partisan horse race. They platformed lies, framed fascism as populism, and obsessed over tone while ignoring substance. Even now, with institutions under siege, they cling to both-sidesism and false equivalency—afraid to call authoritarianism by its name until it’s too late. Journalism is supposed to speak truth to power, not launder it for ratings. In this failure, they were not neutral observers. They were active participants.
Yes… and all we had to do was keep taxing corporations and no outside money in elections.
I think it’s more of a pre-war world I state currently with the corruption, political environment, quacks, scams, industrialists, monopoly/oligarchies, lack of rule of law, etc. It does not have to stay this way but will take work but I will say the majority of people don’t want this. Trump won one of the smallest victories ever. His opponents are larger but somewhat divided and he controls the government and enforcement levers currently.
On the path?
Buddy, the US already *was* a failed state that remained somewhat functional despite it, that is, until somewhat recently.
It is a failed state. It’s not becoming. It’s there. Massive skyrocketing debt, authoritarian leader, military police and secret police, corruption running rampant, oligarchs in control of media and government services. If that was any country is Asia or Africa we’d be calling it a failed state and America would be invading them for their oil.
Most people live day to day and how things affect them directly. Inflation was bad snd they had to blame someone.
Until the turmoil affects Americans don’t see much change.
Now as failed state, politically it has been since citizens united by the right and unlimited political funding.
Economically just can’t see the debt ending well.
Guy who has spent the last 20 years every day waking up, drinking until he passes out, later waking up and drinking until he passes out again might be on the path to becoming an alcoholic.
The United States needs a major overhaul of its government including how officials get elected. That would never happen so therefore the US is a failed state in my opinion. Any country with free elections capable of electing Donald Trump not once, but twice is a failed state. Any country with more incarcerated people than the rest of the world is a failed state. Not to mention how we have kids whose parents need fundraisers to pay off student lunch debt. Crumbling infrastructure. Open racism, xenophobia and sexism.
It was failed the moment W. Bush was allowed to steal the election.
Obama was an opportunity to reverse course but he doubled down on some of the worst aspects of Bush and didn’t jail the bankers.
You can thank Obama for Trump being able to grab people off the streets and send them to El Salvador without a trial
If it is, its only because we let it by sitting idly by and throwing tantrums in 2016 and 2024. Democracy isnt perfect and its not like a succulent you water once and walk away from. It needs checking in. When you do not the garden get run over by weeds and vermin.
Canada’s news magazine noticed in 2010. Here’s the [article](https://macleans.ca/news/world/third-world-america/).
We are already a failed State
It’s *failing.* It hasn’t *failed.* This administration is moving at breakneck speed. Everything is half-assed. They are not charismatic enough to pull off what they envision.
If they were, they wouldn’t have needed Donald Trump to begin with. Think about all of the things he’s failed at, even with being a nepo baby.
We can still rein it in.