>During a press conference on Thursday, June 5, San Antonio Police Chief William McManus offered an update on the case and responded to public backlash after the department said that their “investigation has found no evidence whatsoever” that Joss’ June 1 shooting death was a hate crime.
>“That was way, way, way premature,” he admitted. “Shouldn’t have done it. It was way too soon before we had any real information, and I will own that and simply say, again, that we shouldn’t have done that. It was way too early in the process for any statement of that nature to be issued.”
>“We understand that many in the LGBTQ+ community are feeling anxious and concerned,” McManus continued. “A lot of it has to do with that premature statement that we released, and again, I own that shouldn’t have done it. The loss of Jonathan Joss was tragic and most, most heavily felt by the LGBTQ+ community.”
gmd24 on
Yeah they hadn’t even done any kind of investigation yet including the relationship history with the neighbors. Took the perpetrators words at face value rather than an eye witness.
sarcasticdevo on
Cops gonna cop, I guess.
But I also remember posts going, „It’s probably not a hate crime, it’s just unfortunate.“
Believe victims, especially if it ends up in their death.
enviropsych on
Police chief then stated „Don’t worry, we’re still going to ignore and downplay this, we just goofed and did it while it was still in the news….our bad.“
Mundane-Bend-8047 on
What baffles me is people say we can’t trust Jonathan’s husbands statement on this but go on and on about what the neighbors in the area said about Jonathan. So how are the neighbors more trustworthy than his husband?
Kendal_with_1_L on
Get fucked bigot pig.
Akio540 on
It was way too soon to say it… I guess they wanted to wait a bit to make it seem they really looked into it. The issue wasn’t that it was announced too soon, it was that the statement was false
Shumina-Ghost on
I guess this is the best one can do, but the side that doesn’t want to believe it was a hate crime already has their sound bite. Now they can just say that this LEO just caved to social pressure.
“But mark my words, the first utterance is the truth.”
Then they’ll quote some wildly misappropriated bible verse because you can’t have a cake without frosting.
earl-j-waggedorn on
Also chief: „we didn’t know the rest of the country would be paying attention.“
Icedvelvet on
And his tired old ass should be fired immediately!! You can’t be trusted
Wataru2001 on
r/noshitsherlock
Special_Zucchini185 on
Boy, chief should’ve said wait so they can finish their investigation.
allneonunlike on
It looks pretty likely that all the erratic behavior reported by the neighbors, and by the KOTH sub who had been worried about Joss for a while, are true. But that doesn’t rule out a hate crime or make his husband an unreliable witness.
Let’s do a thought experiment: Pretend you are the shooter, Sifredo Ceja. You are an angry middle-aged man who lives in West Texas. You own guns, drive a truck, and hate your crazy neighbor. In fact, you hate the guy so much that you’ve already had the cops called on both of you for brandishing weapons and fighting in the street. One day, your hated neighbor divorces his wife and brings home a new husband, a trans guy half his age.
How do you treat your enemy’s new husband and newly visible LGBT+ status? Are you tolerant and respectful, do you take the high road? Or are you so openly hateful that the husband thinks your entire beef is based on homophobia? Does this make you escalate the feud? Does it make you more willing to load your gun?
SimpleJacked2TheTits on
I genuinely don’t understand what difference it makes. Murder is a hate crime.
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>During a press conference on Thursday, June 5, San Antonio Police Chief William McManus offered an update on the case and responded to public backlash after the department said that their “investigation has found no evidence whatsoever” that Joss’ June 1 shooting death was a hate crime.
>“That was way, way, way premature,” he admitted. “Shouldn’t have done it. It was way too soon before we had any real information, and I will own that and simply say, again, that we shouldn’t have done that. It was way too early in the process for any statement of that nature to be issued.”
>“We understand that many in the LGBTQ+ community are feeling anxious and concerned,” McManus continued. “A lot of it has to do with that premature statement that we released, and again, I own that shouldn’t have done it. The loss of Jonathan Joss was tragic and most, most heavily felt by the LGBTQ+ community.”
Yeah they hadn’t even done any kind of investigation yet including the relationship history with the neighbors. Took the perpetrators words at face value rather than an eye witness.
Cops gonna cop, I guess.
But I also remember posts going, „It’s probably not a hate crime, it’s just unfortunate.“
Believe victims, especially if it ends up in their death.
Police chief then stated „Don’t worry, we’re still going to ignore and downplay this, we just goofed and did it while it was still in the news….our bad.“
What baffles me is people say we can’t trust Jonathan’s husbands statement on this but go on and on about what the neighbors in the area said about Jonathan. So how are the neighbors more trustworthy than his husband?
Get fucked bigot pig.
It was way too soon to say it… I guess they wanted to wait a bit to make it seem they really looked into it. The issue wasn’t that it was announced too soon, it was that the statement was false
I guess this is the best one can do, but the side that doesn’t want to believe it was a hate crime already has their sound bite. Now they can just say that this LEO just caved to social pressure.
“But mark my words, the first utterance is the truth.”
Then they’ll quote some wildly misappropriated bible verse because you can’t have a cake without frosting.
Also chief: „we didn’t know the rest of the country would be paying attention.“
And his tired old ass should be fired immediately!! You can’t be trusted
r/noshitsherlock
Boy, chief should’ve said wait so they can finish their investigation.
It looks pretty likely that all the erratic behavior reported by the neighbors, and by the KOTH sub who had been worried about Joss for a while, are true. But that doesn’t rule out a hate crime or make his husband an unreliable witness.
Let’s do a thought experiment: Pretend you are the shooter, Sifredo Ceja. You are an angry middle-aged man who lives in West Texas. You own guns, drive a truck, and hate your crazy neighbor. In fact, you hate the guy so much that you’ve already had the cops called on both of you for brandishing weapons and fighting in the street. One day, your hated neighbor divorces his wife and brings home a new husband, a trans guy half his age.
How do you treat your enemy’s new husband and newly visible LGBT+ status? Are you tolerant and respectful, do you take the high road? Or are you so openly hateful that the husband thinks your entire beef is based on homophobia? Does this make you escalate the feud? Does it make you more willing to load your gun?
I genuinely don’t understand what difference it makes. Murder is a hate crime.