They lost my vote when they removed their support of the carbon tax. What use is a left wing party if they’ll compromise on the most important long-term issue on earth?
Wybert-the-Scribe on
They lost my support with their ridiculous gambit to naturalize all temporary workers and students currently in the country. I personally know too many scammers to consider rewarding that bad behavior. Matriculation and increasing selectivity are the only mechanisms that can fix that problem.
Edit: When I say scammers I mostly mean international students who faked the financial means to justify entry by borrowing ’show me‘ money (10 to 25 lakh, or $12k to $30k CAD) from fraudulent immigration brokers and other lenders back home, but who actually had no access to that money to support themselves while in Canada. I know well over a dozen who have done this as an [edit: end] run around the normal practices for becoming an economic migrant.
JadeLens on
Piss poor election all around for the NDP.
Singh was a non-issue with the exception of telling a ‚reporter‘ off at the after debate scrum I honestly couldn’t tell you where he was or what he was doing the entire time.
They threw their influencers under every bus imaginable, they made a crappy strategic voting website that didn’t adhere to any math I’ve ever seen and leaned things towards the NDP.
dienomighte on
In my case, when I mailed in my ballot I could find literally no information about the ndp MP in my riding aside from her name, she had no social media account nor was she listed on the ndp candidates page on their website, nor could I find a linked in. If someone can’t put in more effort running for office than I do for a job interview, I’m not going to vote for them.
That said it was a hopeless riding for the ndp in a potential bloc/lpc battleground so there might not be lessons here for anywhere else.
ChimoEngr on
> The NDP’s biggest barrier to power is its poor reputation as a caretaker of the economy.
Which is all about vibes. The federal NDP has never had a chance to take care of the national economy, so no one can say for sure how they would do. If we consider their provincial cousins, the evidence is that the NDP does a better job than the other parties, however they get no credit for that. The spectre of Rae Days is still grounds to not vote NDP in Ontario, despite that being a very smart response to the provincial governments fiscal position at that time.
> . Then-leader Jagmeet Singh’s rants on “excessive profits” and “corporate greed” taint the party as anti-business.
So the author of this article either doesn’t go grocery shopping, or always shops at Whole Foods. Singh was targeting certain companies for their profit gouging and greed, not corporations as a whole. Lies like this, are part of why the NDP isn’t seen as being able to take care of the economy. When the majority of the media just makes shit up to make you look bad, it’s really fucking hard to get public support.
penis-muncher785 on
I only voted ndp because I liked the MP sadly they lost but hopefully the next vision of the ndp is more inspiring because jagmeet was damaged goods
After the 2021 election man had zero political instincts
WhaddaHutz on
They lost their strongholds of Windsor-West and Fanshawe-London, ridings they’ve held for decades, to Conservatives. It cannot be overstated how massive those losses are for the NDP. Those are ridings that the strategic ABC choice *was* the NDP – and yet, they lost to the CPC. It’s pretty clear why too – the NDP has all but abandoned their historic base and original raison d’etre.
If the NDP can’t get that through their heads, then they may as well throw in the towel.
RNTMA on
Article is basically complete garbage, the only accurate part is the title. It’s just delusional for the author to say the NDP’s collapse was because they weren’t friendlier with chambers of commerce or business groups. Singh was rightfully mocked when he talked about how we need more immigration because businesses told him we need it. This is supposed to be a worker’s party, and he took it far away from that.
But it wasn’t strategic voting that damaged the NDP. Look at ridings they lost, Timmins, Windsor, London, Griesbach, Skeena. The Conservatives significantly increased their vote share in each of those ridings, sometimes more than double. People there were swayed by Poilievre’s populist messaging, and the NDP had no counter.
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They lost my vote when they removed their support of the carbon tax. What use is a left wing party if they’ll compromise on the most important long-term issue on earth?
They lost my support with their ridiculous gambit to naturalize all temporary workers and students currently in the country. I personally know too many scammers to consider rewarding that bad behavior. Matriculation and increasing selectivity are the only mechanisms that can fix that problem.
Edit: When I say scammers I mostly mean international students who faked the financial means to justify entry by borrowing ’show me‘ money (10 to 25 lakh, or $12k to $30k CAD) from fraudulent immigration brokers and other lenders back home, but who actually had no access to that money to support themselves while in Canada. I know well over a dozen who have done this as an [edit: end] run around the normal practices for becoming an economic migrant.
Piss poor election all around for the NDP.
Singh was a non-issue with the exception of telling a ‚reporter‘ off at the after debate scrum I honestly couldn’t tell you where he was or what he was doing the entire time.
They threw their influencers under every bus imaginable, they made a crappy strategic voting website that didn’t adhere to any math I’ve ever seen and leaned things towards the NDP.
In my case, when I mailed in my ballot I could find literally no information about the ndp MP in my riding aside from her name, she had no social media account nor was she listed on the ndp candidates page on their website, nor could I find a linked in. If someone can’t put in more effort running for office than I do for a job interview, I’m not going to vote for them.
That said it was a hopeless riding for the ndp in a potential bloc/lpc battleground so there might not be lessons here for anywhere else.
> The NDP’s biggest barrier to power is its poor reputation as a caretaker of the economy.
Which is all about vibes. The federal NDP has never had a chance to take care of the national economy, so no one can say for sure how they would do. If we consider their provincial cousins, the evidence is that the NDP does a better job than the other parties, however they get no credit for that. The spectre of Rae Days is still grounds to not vote NDP in Ontario, despite that being a very smart response to the provincial governments fiscal position at that time.
> . Then-leader Jagmeet Singh’s rants on “excessive profits” and “corporate greed” taint the party as anti-business.
So the author of this article either doesn’t go grocery shopping, or always shops at Whole Foods. Singh was targeting certain companies for their profit gouging and greed, not corporations as a whole. Lies like this, are part of why the NDP isn’t seen as being able to take care of the economy. When the majority of the media just makes shit up to make you look bad, it’s really fucking hard to get public support.
I only voted ndp because I liked the MP sadly they lost but hopefully the next vision of the ndp is more inspiring because jagmeet was damaged goods
After the 2021 election man had zero political instincts
They lost their strongholds of Windsor-West and Fanshawe-London, ridings they’ve held for decades, to Conservatives. It cannot be overstated how massive those losses are for the NDP. Those are ridings that the strategic ABC choice *was* the NDP – and yet, they lost to the CPC. It’s pretty clear why too – the NDP has all but abandoned their historic base and original raison d’etre.
If the NDP can’t get that through their heads, then they may as well throw in the towel.
Article is basically complete garbage, the only accurate part is the title. It’s just delusional for the author to say the NDP’s collapse was because they weren’t friendlier with chambers of commerce or business groups. Singh was rightfully mocked when he talked about how we need more immigration because businesses told him we need it. This is supposed to be a worker’s party, and he took it far away from that.
But it wasn’t strategic voting that damaged the NDP. Look at ridings they lost, Timmins, Windsor, London, Griesbach, Skeena. The Conservatives significantly increased their vote share in each of those ridings, sometimes more than double. People there were swayed by Poilievre’s populist messaging, and the NDP had no counter.