Die Arbeit von zu Hause aus verändert sich nicht wesentlich dort, wo Menschen leben – Studieren Sie studieren

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    1. I think permanent and secure work from home would. The difficulty is that lots of people have been in medium term work from home for about 5 years, but we also see lots of people having their lives ruined by sudden return to office mandates.

      No one wants to risk moving back up north to be closer to mum and dad if next month your boss could decide to start enforcing your contractual workplace again.

    2. Pretty-Lychee5504 on

      I’m currently looking for something fully remote so I can move where I want to, it’s just that most jobs that allow WFH actually expect you in their offices quite frequently so it’s not that simple.

      I’d love to be able to move somewhere more rural as I’m not a city person, but I’ve had to live closer to the office in my past roles as they’ve all been hybrid.

    3. Kind-County9767 on

      That’s because every employer gives the worst kind of contract. The „yeah it’s work from home but we’ll still lost head office as your work location“ which means they can change their mind at any point and force you in. And you can’t claim the simple tax refund from the government.

    4. A lot of jobs have hybrid working ranging from come in to the office at least x days per week to „we sometimes need to have ad-hoc in-person meetings“ so moving might not make sense.

    5. Both-Mud-4362 on

      I think the issue is most WFH jobs are actually hybrid. So people are still tied to towns and cities. And jobs are still primarily located in the M4 corridor.

      If remote work was the standard way of working with the option to be hybrid if you wanted to go to an office that would have a greater impact on the country as a whole.

      But as it stands hybrid is often mandatory.

      Also a lot of these studies say people prefer hybrid. But they don’t explore why. Are they:
      – able bodied
      – have no long term conditions
      – have shitty small apartments or live in a HMO
      – have no designated space for a home office
      – introvert/extrovert

      Because as someone who is neurodivergent, has a long term crippling medical condition and a designated home office, I can say without a doubt that remote work is amazing. Not only can I care for myself better but I can engage in full-time work.

      Technically my work is hybrid, but only in the sense that every now and then I will be expected to travel to one of the customer sites to conduct some meetings for information gathering. And travel is fully paid for by the company. I could if I wanted also go to one of our office sites and book a hot desk for the day. But if I had to go the office and had no choice about it. I would not be able to cope and would most likely find myself signed off and on PIP and UC.

    6. However study is showing basically 0 dip in productivity and a huge increase in employee happiness

      [https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/1kosvoj/scientists_have_been_studying_remote_work_for/](https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/1kosvoj/scientists_have_been_studying_remote_work_for/)

      So if there is no productivity dip and it makes your employees happier and healthier, why not embrace it or highly flexible hybrid working for those jobs its appropriate? Its about managers sense of control and the money tied up in office estates.

    7. WhalingSmithers00 on

      Is this based on purely working from home or hybrid arrangements? Because if you still have to commute but not as often people will still want to be close to the office.

      There’s also perhaps a lack of confidence that work from home will be a permanent arrangement. You won’t uproot your life if you’re not certain it will last

    8. BigIncome5028 on

      No shit.. When most companies don’t offer complete 100% WFH and only „hybrid“ how can you expect anything different? People still have to commute to the office a few times a week so can’t live too far away

    9. SXLightning on

      I will be starting a fully remote job but I will be staying in London because this is the most fun place to be lol

    10. notacreativeuser on

      the truth is that people like living in cities, moreso than expected, given immediate post COVID trends. what’s the point in working from home as a young professional if there’s little to do in your hometown suburb after work, when you need a car to get anywhere, and where the dating pool is tiny?

    11. pikantnasuka on

      If they move to those areas they drive the cost of housing up, which is somewhat less helpful for people already living there than seems to be assumed.

      Are new builds being thought about in terms of providing good home working spaces anyway? The last time I visited someone in one of those built for renters city centre blocks there was barely space for them to put their clothes away, let alone have anything like a work desk with a decent chair. If home working really is the future the planning for it needs to incorporate things like that too.

    12. Acceptable-Pin2939 on

      I straight up refuse to even interview for jobs that aren’t remote.

      „You must come into the office 2 days a week“

      Those days are invariably Thursday and Friday which is just an excuse to chip off early and go down the pub then do fuck all on Friday as half the office is hungover.

      Or, what normally happens is that people just don’t show up on those 2 days because no one else does.

    13. XenorVernix on

      My job is work from home and has been since day 1 nearly 3 years ago but my listed place of work in my contract is 100 miles away. I’m well aware that the company could decide tomorrow that I have to be in the office 5 days per week, and given they have been encouraging people to go in more I take that risk seriously. When I move house next year I’ll be shortening that distance.

      Even ignoring my current job, most jobs in my industry have gone hybrid so if I ever want to leave this company or I get made redundant then I’ll want to be in easy driving distance of a city.

    14. Common-Jackfruit-884 on

      Of course it isn’t as mostly hybrid rather than full remote. So people still need to be within travelling distance to an office/workspace.

    15. How many work from home jobs are actually hybrid though? Where I last worked we had to be in office at least twice a week, so you couldn’t move that far away really. If it was genuine work from home I’d have moved somewhere nicer but as it was I couldn’t without making it a pain to get to and from work

    16. Because companies keep changing their minds that puts jobs at risk. If it was legal right you’d see more people move

    17. andymaclean19 on

      I’ve been doing ‘proper’ fully remote ever since the pandemic. By proper I mean everyone has contracts with their house as an office. I do not work for a British company though (technically I do but it’s a UK subsidiary for employing people).

      It’s not a choice for everyone. For the first 18 months I did not meet anyone else in person. (When you do that and eventually do meet the first thing you notice is you had no idea how tall everyone is!). I do like working like this, I hire people from various European countries and could essentially live where I like.

      When I started I didn’t think it would be for me but we were in the pandemic. It is hard not being able to go to an office sometimes and I am starting to miss the social aspect more and more now. I have had people leave and go to jobs with a local office because of this, but I also get a lot more great people who have left their last job due to office pushbacks.

      But the interesting part is that I don’t actually get applicants from all over the UK. Most are in or around London. The M4 corridor essentially. Sometimes Manchester area too. We could get people from all over the UK but I am not sure how we would connect with them or vice versa.

      I am not sure this is just a hybrid work problem.

    18. Worth considering is that it doesn’t need a lot of people to move to more rural locations to push house prices up in those locations. Also mega isolated communities won’t be that attractive for most, what will happen (and has happened since the 1980s) is that people go to a small town or village within an easy drive of a city.

    19. Human-Category-5024 on

      The housing market in the uk is terrible, there are no new houses to move to.

    20. Nosferatatron on

      A few people moved out of cities but common sense would tell you that there isn’t enough accommodation to suit everyone. Where people live is mainly based on price I’d guess, plus the community

    21. Large part of it is that for many folks, work from home came halfway into a career where they might have a family, kids, social ties, etc. WFH is great but there aren’t many that will suddenly uproot their entire life based on it.

    22. It doesn’t change where you live but it can seriously change where you work and earn your salary from, while for companies it significantly increases where they can hire from, especially for a lower salary.

    23. People live where there are the facilities and culture that they are looking for.

      Someone who enjoys nights out, the theatre, festivals or things like that isn’t going to move to bumfuck, nowhere, even if the housing is cheaper, since the important thing to them is the culture and other spaces available in the city.

      Where they work isn’t super relevant to this – though they *might* move from an uber expensive city to a less expensive city.

    24. bobblebob100 on

      When i was in Vietnam on holiday recently, i found out alot of westerners live there and remote work for UK companies. Get a decent wage and live like a king in Vietnam its thats cheap.

      If my job allowed it id be seriously tempted

    25. Front_Mention on

      I mean house price changes, challenges this. When wfh shifted to hybrid remote location houses fell in value and commuter towns went up

    26. We would love to move somewhere more rural in the south west, and theoretically we should be able to as my partner works from home. But due to the nature of his job, we need somewhere with high speed internet so are tied to cities. The infrastructure just isn’t there to allow us to live where we want to live.

    27. faultlessdark on

      WFH has allowed people from all over the country to work for companies that previously would have been way too inconvenient to commute to, and has increased the size of the pool of available talent for employers. For me it’s allowed me to work for a company that would eat 3 hours of my life each day commuting to-and-from.

      It hasn’t suddenly changed everyone’s mindset that they can live where they like though because, as we’ve seen, the government, public transport companies (seriously those National Rail radio ads can fuck right off) and many businesses have had a massive hard-on for getting people back into office spaces either full-time or hybrid.

      It can’t be a shock to anyone that people are risk-averse when it comes to considering uprooting their entire lives to move further away from somewhere that will either suddenly decide on a whim you need to work in their office full-time, or regularly on a weekly basis for hybrid.

      On the other side of that, I’d be materially and mentally worse off if they did so i’d be immediately looking for another job closer to home if they mandated work in the office. I wouldn’t be looking at moving closer to work to save money and time on a commute when any money savings would be wiped out and-then-some with how expensive a smaller house closer to the city would be.

    28. I WFH, and could easily work from anywhere in the world if I wanted to (company actually has a 2 week WFA policy). My wife, unfortunately, still has to go in to her job, so we’re pretty much stuck where we are.

    29. Somehow everyone forgets about those who don’t want or can’t WFH in these discussions. There are plenty of people who want to get away from kids or from abusive family members during the day, or who are extrovert and require regular and intense interactions with other humans.

    30. VirtualArmsDealer on

      Yeah no shit. WFH is usually just 2-3 days Flexi. I still have to be within spitting distance of the office. True remote WFH would change things but UK employers are dinosaurs who won’t change.

    31. wastedchildhooddays on

      It significantly changed where I live

      I was offered a 100% remote contract when I changed jobs, I now live in the highlands after previously living in Glasgow

      I got a bit concerned when my manager left and the company was restructured, but my new manager has said the words ‘you could work on the moon for all I care’

      It helps that it is a multinational retail business and head office functions are spread across UK and Ireland

      I am actually sat in the airport at the minute as I’m visiting Head office for a bunch of workshops, but it is a relatively rare occurrence for me to be in the office

    32. Utter BS. The Kent and Sussex coastal towns have been flooded and utterly colonised by wankers from London since Covid.

    33. Remote worker here, never took this survey and assume many remote workers didn’t. Where do they get this data?

      I live outside of London because of remote work, I’d live there if I didn’t need massive mortgage for an ugly leasehold property. That said, if I had a job in London I would live there, spending 1-2 hours on travel is not worth extra savings.

    34. brandine__spuckler on

      My job is fully remote and it’s bloody brilliant and I’m so much more productive than I was when I worked in an office. I have to go to Head Office 4 times a year but it’s a nice little city break, last time they put me in a posh hotel and I got upgraded to a suite!

    35. Once we got confirmation that our company shifted to work from home and began hiring across the world I moved to the coast.

      A huge part of my company have moved away from London.

      Yeah when I look for jobs now I’m restricted but that just makes me evaluate what I want.. and that is time at home, not commuting somewhere to help make someone a giant profit while I get a slice

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