Trickling down as i type this comment, will buy a house (miniature, one bed bungalow in central London) with my portion of the trickle down
goro-7 on
This will not happen for sure and they will direct people instead on immigration topics
Pirrt on
Even just properly taxing housing would be a huge benefit. Council tax capped at £6k is insane. If we had a 1% market value tax it would not only generate hundreds of billions but it would also
1. tax wealth locked in residential housing (£9trn)
2. motivate older generations to actually downsize freeing up family homes in economic centres
3. help put downward pressure on high house prices.
High house prices alone are estimated to be a 20-30% detractor to GDP. Brexit is estimated to be 2-4%….
PapaJrer on
How about alongside the Rich List we list the top 250 tax payers in the country.
Number 1 gets to live in Buckingham Palace free of charge.
You’re only allowed to own a Premier League team if you are in the top 100.
Top 250 lets you see an NHS dentist.
AdAggressive9224 on
The problem with having *that much* wealth is that it snowballs, because you can just use your passive income to buy up all the assets. You don’t even need to invest smart because you have so much money even just 1 or 2 pc interest will be enough to buy a house every day of the year in perpetuity.
Which is precisely the problem. The core problem is that ultra wealthy people do not invest their money in productive ways, there’s no incentive for them to take any risk whatsoever because they can just keep on snowballing their wealth on the absolute slimmest of margins.
What needs to happen is either tax + redistribute… Or alternatively, you need to somehow force wealthy people to only invest in productive pursuits.
My idea… Anyone worth over 5 million pounds (or some other threshold, it’s not important) can no longer buy *existing* properties. They are only allowed to build new ones.
That one little line of code right there would go a long way. With no tax increase, and minimal intervention.
iamnotinterested2 on
You see they don’t have that much, they really can’t afford to pay, taxes, higher wages etc..
Kinitawowi64 on
No, £772bn *worth of assets* is in the hands of 350 families. It’s not like it’s all cash in a current account you could take a few billion from with them barely noticing.
„Wealth tax“ is a slogan, not a policy.
Estimated-Delivery on
Yeah, sounds great but it better be a surprise move, if it’s given some publicity, they’ll have their wealth out of here so quick you’ll never see the footsie fall so fast.
DisneyPandora on
This mentality is killing the UK.
Instead of going after the rich with wealth taxes, we should instead be focusing on growth and actually growing the middle class.
France did wealth tax and it led to capital flight. They don’t work. The UK already has the highest taxes on the rich in the world. We should aim to focus on creating a productive economy, not finding scapegoats.
TimeToNukeTheWhales on
Taxing them 25% of their wealth would gain us £193 billion, or a 16% rise in our budget for a single year. It barely seems worth it.
HackAndHear on
Yeah but someday I’ll be a millionaire and I dont want to pay taxes on money I will never spend
itsajourney2020 on
Guys no way, they deserve that wealth. They just work 772,000,000,000,000 times harder than us.
Keep talking about immigrants and trans people instead.
InformationNew66 on
Those 350 families have enough money to bribe all parties. End of story.
Colascape on
We can’t possibly dilute the royal family’s wealth, I mean that wouldn’t be fair at all, right?
ButterMeUpHOTS on
People don’t understand, taxing things is a system for discouraging things.
Wealth tax isn’t just about getting the billions now, it’s about discouraging people buying 50 homes and putting assets back into the lower and middle class
BoxAfter7577 on
Rich get richer. Big yawn.
The real problem is where are trans people are shitting!
/s
Ok-Book-4070 on
At this point it’s not even about increasing the tax for them. 50% on earnings of a billion/pa is plenty, its more about closing the loopholes they are all using to pay almost nothing.
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Don’t worry it’ll start to trickle down any day now.
Steal all that money, every single penny, and you can pay for the state pension for ~7 years. Then it’s gone
tax is only for the poor.
[Prince Charles given €3m in cash in bags by Qatari politician, according to report | King Charles III | The Guardian](https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/jun/25/prince-charles-is-said-to-have-been-given-3m-in-qatari-cash)
Trickling down as i type this comment, will buy a house (miniature, one bed bungalow in central London) with my portion of the trickle down
This will not happen for sure and they will direct people instead on immigration topics
Even just properly taxing housing would be a huge benefit. Council tax capped at £6k is insane. If we had a 1% market value tax it would not only generate hundreds of billions but it would also
1. tax wealth locked in residential housing (£9trn)
2. motivate older generations to actually downsize freeing up family homes in economic centres
3. help put downward pressure on high house prices.
High house prices alone are estimated to be a 20-30% detractor to GDP. Brexit is estimated to be 2-4%….
How about alongside the Rich List we list the top 250 tax payers in the country.
Number 1 gets to live in Buckingham Palace free of charge.
You’re only allowed to own a Premier League team if you are in the top 100.
Top 250 lets you see an NHS dentist.
The problem with having *that much* wealth is that it snowballs, because you can just use your passive income to buy up all the assets. You don’t even need to invest smart because you have so much money even just 1 or 2 pc interest will be enough to buy a house every day of the year in perpetuity.
Which is precisely the problem. The core problem is that ultra wealthy people do not invest their money in productive ways, there’s no incentive for them to take any risk whatsoever because they can just keep on snowballing their wealth on the absolute slimmest of margins.
What needs to happen is either tax + redistribute… Or alternatively, you need to somehow force wealthy people to only invest in productive pursuits.
My idea… Anyone worth over 5 million pounds (or some other threshold, it’s not important) can no longer buy *existing* properties. They are only allowed to build new ones.
That one little line of code right there would go a long way. With no tax increase, and minimal intervention.
You see they don’t have that much, they really can’t afford to pay, taxes, higher wages etc..
No, £772bn *worth of assets* is in the hands of 350 families. It’s not like it’s all cash in a current account you could take a few billion from with them barely noticing.
„Wealth tax“ is a slogan, not a policy.
Yeah, sounds great but it better be a surprise move, if it’s given some publicity, they’ll have their wealth out of here so quick you’ll never see the footsie fall so fast.
This mentality is killing the UK.
Instead of going after the rich with wealth taxes, we should instead be focusing on growth and actually growing the middle class.
France did wealth tax and it led to capital flight. They don’t work. The UK already has the highest taxes on the rich in the world. We should aim to focus on creating a productive economy, not finding scapegoats.
Taxing them 25% of their wealth would gain us £193 billion, or a 16% rise in our budget for a single year. It barely seems worth it.
Yeah but someday I’ll be a millionaire and I dont want to pay taxes on money I will never spend
Guys no way, they deserve that wealth. They just work 772,000,000,000,000 times harder than us.
Keep talking about immigrants and trans people instead.
Those 350 families have enough money to bribe all parties. End of story.
We can’t possibly dilute the royal family’s wealth, I mean that wouldn’t be fair at all, right?
People don’t understand, taxing things is a system for discouraging things.
Wealth tax isn’t just about getting the billions now, it’s about discouraging people buying 50 homes and putting assets back into the lower and middle class
Rich get richer. Big yawn.
The real problem is where are trans people are shitting!
/s
At this point it’s not even about increasing the tax for them. 50% on earnings of a billion/pa is plenty, its more about closing the loopholes they are all using to pay almost nothing.