> But party leaders have said the vote Monday was about the procedural issue, not other considerations.
> Christine Pelosi, the daughter of Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and a member of the Credentials Committee, said in a post on the social platform X that the first vice chair, Artie Blanco, was elected with a clear majority, but Kenyatta and Hogg were elected on a combined ballot.
> One of the losing candidates, Kalyn Free, issued a complaint alleging conducting the election on a combined ballot violated the DNC’s rules.
> The younger Pelosi said she called for upholding the election results but addressing the issue for future elections, but her proposal fell short of a majority vote of the committee, which eventually voted to recommend the DNC hold new ballots for Hogg and Kenyatta’s vice chair positions.
Hogg can run again
Dry-Heron8331 on
All the energy in the world to fight anyone slightly to the left, but no backbone whatsoever to fight Trump or the far right
williamgman on
The fear of losing 2A voters is getting fucking old.
Maybe when Medicaid is shut off for many of the Meal Team Six members… We will sadly see some exercise their 2A rights against the very folks that burned them. I hope not. But there’s a LOT Medicaid receivers South of the Mason Dixon.
The GOP uses 2A voters even better than the Christian ones.
walkallover1991 on
The wild part is that Hogg isn’t some young leftist with bold ideas. He’s just trying to get the Party to succeed at present by performing like an actual opposition party (rather than a controlled opposition party as it typically operates) that is more active and is able to reach out to younger voters.
But yet even *that* was too radical for them.
As I always say – the DNC would rather lose to Trump (and basically any GOP candidate) than actually enact any type of reform/propose any type of policy issue that interferes with it’s corporate, status-quo philosophy.
SteArtistic on
The Dems certainly miscalculated in 2024. Are they capable of thwarting Trump’s power grab? Doesn’t seem like it.
sedatedlife on
So they will oust him for someone who promises to spend money to primary progressive candidates.
Crystaldaddy on
Okay is anyone gonna read what actually happened. It’s almost like someone wants non republicans to be divided
36monsters on
So basically they’d rather fight themselves than Trump. Ok. Got it.
Outside-Affect-4722 on
Hang in there David
throwaway_ghast on
>“Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary.“ – Karl Marx
No offense to Hogg, but he simply does not meet the moment. Gun control is his biggest cause, and while I understand why he feels that way, it is and always has been an issue that loses votes in swing states. More importantly, this is not the time to go full anti-2A. We’re in the midst of a Fascist takeover, where the FBI, police, and Justice Department are taken over by violent MAGAs. And he is basically saying, „no need to defend yourself from them“. I cannot in good conscience defend this.
Shaggy2772 on
Just stay the course! It’s been working for us so well!
– The DNC
ChaseThoseDreams on
The DNC has lost to the clown that is Trump twice despite his deep unpopularity. Last I checked, the Democrats and people like Schumer were under water in the approval ratings despite all of Trump’s madness, due in large part to how feckless they’ve been. Hogg is not wrong to want to shake things up. People need to be primaried.
Drascio1773 on
Anything to really alienate the young and new democratic voter. Poor move on the parties part
TangerineHealthy546 on
Time for a new party led by Bernie Sanders and AOC with a mission statement that says nobody in the party will take money from corporations
MagicianHeavy001 on
GenX here. We blew it. First to admit it. Nobody good in politics from the Xers.
But the Boomers are going nuts. Thank you for your service, but step aside, olds. Let the young kids have a turn.
Seems they just do not want progressive voices heard in the Democratic Party.
DiogenesArchon on
At this point, it feels like the Democratic party is in cahoots with Trump. Bend to his will, put up no resistance, chastise the people who want to impeach him, oust the people who want to fight back.
Absolutely fucking disgraceful. I stopped calling myself a democrat after this past election. I should change my voter registraton to independent (not that our votes will matter in the future).
calliope3234 on
They’re not beating the controlled opposition allegations like how do you mess up this bad against a literal fascist unless it’s intentional
freakdageek on
History will judge him positively, too bad none of us will be around to see it.
Soft_Internal_6775 on
> The internal party scrap, critics say, has been a show of Democrats’ inability to accept even mild criticism — with the party taking umbrage with their own vice chair while refusing to meaningfully resist President Donald Trump, as he triggers numerous constitutional crises and is seeking to suspend Americans’ fundamental rights.
Because nothing says the people will fight to protect their rights against a militant fascist like pushing gun control
Current_Animator7546 on
Tye best 3-5 years will be messy. They will be uncomfortable, but they need to happen. The party should do what Hogg is doing. Rip off the band aid.
Acceptable-Truck3803 on
He’s not wrong but Hogg is not the person you actually want to be a spokesperson for the DNC.
Zeddo52SD on
Yeah, this doesn’t actually have much to do with Hogg at all. Kalyn Free is looking to redo the vote for Malcolm Kenyatta too. It’s an attempted coup from Free to gain a Vice Chair seat. Even Kenyatta has said it has nothing to do with Hogg, and his seat as VC is at risk himself.
__tothex__ on
As much as I’m not a fan of his, the DNC is proving his point.
anemic_royaltea on
Committed losers. I get that the map means they have to pretend to be competitive in Iowa or whatever state with eight people in it that has as many senators as California if they ever want the Senate, but what’s the angle here, meet the people who want to deport all immigrants in the middle?
Mayo_Whales on
Fucking cowards. These old vultures need to step down, they needed to be gone a decade ago
aeolus811tw on
it feels like democrat just can’t stop sabotaging themselves
shameonyounancydrew on
Lol! He literally said this would happen like 2 weeks ago!
Trevita17 on
If ever there was proof that redditors don’t read past the headlines, it’s this comments section.
invincibleparm on
Good old democrats…. Useless. At least Hogg was trying to move the needle for once.
Inevitable-Toe-6272 on
Is it really what they are doing? Or is it because they violated their own rules and one of the candidates logged a complaint, so they are invalidating the election. and having everyone vote again. The same people are running, including him.
GroundbreakingUse794 on
They’re not. they are far too afraid to say, or do anything drastic, so they huff and puff and throw their hands up and say “ this is wrong! Make sure you let your congressman know about it!” And then expect the public to just do a lot of the work they should have done for the last ten years, they dragged their feet too long to act like they’re the victims
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The Democrats will fight Trump as long as it doesn’t hurt corporate profits.
This seems to be due to a procedural issue with how Hogg was seated, but is being exploited to attack the DNC
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5297387-dnc-vice-chair-election-david-hogg-malcolm-kenyatta/
> But party leaders have said the vote Monday was about the procedural issue, not other considerations.
> Christine Pelosi, the daughter of Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and a member of the Credentials Committee, said in a post on the social platform X that the first vice chair, Artie Blanco, was elected with a clear majority, but Kenyatta and Hogg were elected on a combined ballot.
> One of the losing candidates, Kalyn Free, issued a complaint alleging conducting the election on a combined ballot violated the DNC’s rules.
> The younger Pelosi said she called for upholding the election results but addressing the issue for future elections, but her proposal fell short of a majority vote of the committee, which eventually voted to recommend the DNC hold new ballots for Hogg and Kenyatta’s vice chair positions.
Hogg can run again
All the energy in the world to fight anyone slightly to the left, but no backbone whatsoever to fight Trump or the far right
The fear of losing 2A voters is getting fucking old.
Maybe when Medicaid is shut off for many of the Meal Team Six members… We will sadly see some exercise their 2A rights against the very folks that burned them. I hope not. But there’s a LOT Medicaid receivers South of the Mason Dixon.
The GOP uses 2A voters even better than the Christian ones.
The wild part is that Hogg isn’t some young leftist with bold ideas. He’s just trying to get the Party to succeed at present by performing like an actual opposition party (rather than a controlled opposition party as it typically operates) that is more active and is able to reach out to younger voters.
But yet even *that* was too radical for them.
As I always say – the DNC would rather lose to Trump (and basically any GOP candidate) than actually enact any type of reform/propose any type of policy issue that interferes with it’s corporate, status-quo philosophy.
The Dems certainly miscalculated in 2024. Are they capable of thwarting Trump’s power grab? Doesn’t seem like it.
So they will oust him for someone who promises to spend money to primary progressive candidates.
Okay is anyone gonna read what actually happened. It’s almost like someone wants non republicans to be divided
So basically they’d rather fight themselves than Trump. Ok. Got it.
Hang in there David
>“Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary.“ – Karl Marx
No offense to Hogg, but he simply does not meet the moment. Gun control is his biggest cause, and while I understand why he feels that way, it is and always has been an issue that loses votes in swing states. More importantly, this is not the time to go full anti-2A. We’re in the midst of a Fascist takeover, where the FBI, police, and Justice Department are taken over by violent MAGAs. And he is basically saying, „no need to defend yourself from them“. I cannot in good conscience defend this.
Just stay the course! It’s been working for us so well!
– The DNC
The DNC has lost to the clown that is Trump twice despite his deep unpopularity. Last I checked, the Democrats and people like Schumer were under water in the approval ratings despite all of Trump’s madness, due in large part to how feckless they’ve been. Hogg is not wrong to want to shake things up. People need to be primaried.
Anything to really alienate the young and new democratic voter. Poor move on the parties part
Time for a new party led by Bernie Sanders and AOC with a mission statement that says nobody in the party will take money from corporations
GenX here. We blew it. First to admit it. Nobody good in politics from the Xers.
But the Boomers are going nuts. Thank you for your service, but step aside, olds. Let the young kids have a turn.
Seems they just do not want progressive voices heard in the Democratic Party.
At this point, it feels like the Democratic party is in cahoots with Trump. Bend to his will, put up no resistance, chastise the people who want to impeach him, oust the people who want to fight back.
Absolutely fucking disgraceful. I stopped calling myself a democrat after this past election. I should change my voter registraton to independent (not that our votes will matter in the future).
They’re not beating the controlled opposition allegations like how do you mess up this bad against a literal fascist unless it’s intentional
History will judge him positively, too bad none of us will be around to see it.
> The internal party scrap, critics say, has been a show of Democrats’ inability to accept even mild criticism — with the party taking umbrage with their own vice chair while refusing to meaningfully resist President Donald Trump, as he triggers numerous constitutional crises and is seeking to suspend Americans’ fundamental rights.
Because nothing says the people will fight to protect their rights against a militant fascist like pushing gun control
Tye best 3-5 years will be messy. They will be uncomfortable, but they need to happen. The party should do what Hogg is doing. Rip off the band aid.
He’s not wrong but Hogg is not the person you actually want to be a spokesperson for the DNC.
Yeah, this doesn’t actually have much to do with Hogg at all. Kalyn Free is looking to redo the vote for Malcolm Kenyatta too. It’s an attempted coup from Free to gain a Vice Chair seat. Even Kenyatta has said it has nothing to do with Hogg, and his seat as VC is at risk himself.
As much as I’m not a fan of his, the DNC is proving his point.
Committed losers. I get that the map means they have to pretend to be competitive in Iowa or whatever state with eight people in it that has as many senators as California if they ever want the Senate, but what’s the angle here, meet the people who want to deport all immigrants in the middle?
Fucking cowards. These old vultures need to step down, they needed to be gone a decade ago
it feels like democrat just can’t stop sabotaging themselves
Lol! He literally said this would happen like 2 weeks ago!
If ever there was proof that redditors don’t read past the headlines, it’s this comments section.
Good old democrats…. Useless. At least Hogg was trying to move the needle for once.
Is it really what they are doing? Or is it because they violated their own rules and one of the candidates logged a complaint, so they are invalidating the election. and having everyone vote again. The same people are running, including him.
They’re not. they are far too afraid to say, or do anything drastic, so they huff and puff and throw their hands up and say “ this is wrong! Make sure you let your congressman know about it!” And then expect the public to just do a lot of the work they should have done for the last ten years, they dragged their feet too long to act like they’re the victims