Separatistische Gruppe veröffentlicht potenzielle Frage in Alberta Referendum
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/calgary-alberta-prosperity-project-referendum-question-1.7532890
Separatistische Gruppe veröffentlicht potenzielle Frage in Alberta Referendum
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/calgary-alberta-prosperity-project-referendum-question-1.7532890
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> Rath and his fellow separatists depicted an independent Alberta with no regulations from Ottawa or eastern Canadian interests, lower provincial taxes plus no federal taxes.
> They suggested oil and gas development would double within five years, multiple new pipelines would extend into the United States, and residents of a breakaway Alberta republic would still keep their Canadian passports and Canada Pension Plan entitlements.
Yeah, that is not how any of that works. Nor is it up to you. You don’t get to just dictate terms. And it ignores a ton of other issues. You aren’t going anywhere separatists.
>At a news conference, APP lawyer Jeff Rath pulled a blue provincial flag off an easel to reveal the independence referendum question: „Do you agree that the province shall become a sovereign country and cease to be a province of Canada?“
>He touted this ballot question as far clearer than the ones Quebec put forth in its 1995 secession referendum, „and as serious as a heart attack.“
Just because it’s a simple question doesn’t mean it’s any clearer.
It leaves open *so many unanswered details*. Who gets to be a citizen, do the borders remain as they are, how much of the national debt is transferred, what about indigenous and first nations title, ***what will be the new nation’s constitution?***
Really, this simple question doesn’t pose anything of substantial meaning beyond a will and desire to denounce their Canadian citizenship.
Going to cost millions of dollars to do this and it will fail. We would save money sending these separatists to the US
Danielle Smith should resign when this proposed referendum loses in a hilariously lopsided blowout.
The less sane parts of rural Alberta may think this is a swell idea but Calgary and Edmonton will have none of this nonsense and will bury it by 25 points.
Is this the person that is the spokesperson for the group?
https://www.lawsociety.ab.ca/hearing/jeffrey-rath-3/
I dislike quoting Trump but ‚they’re not sending their best“
Lower provincial taxes? Keeping Canadian passports and CPP?
Okay I’ve seen enough, this is clearly not a serious movement and is clearly a tantrum being propped up by those south of the border.
I read some reports that Alberta’s provincial debt stood at between $49-79 billion. I would think this bill would be due immediately if they want to leave.
I am very interested how red hot these folks think the Alberta economy is going to be when the wells finally dry up. Would be a pretty awkward hat-in-hand plea to join back up when their economy tanks.
„There is a process for seceding under the federal Clarity Act, which came into effect in 2000 following the Quebec referendum in 1995.
First step? Write a referendum question, which Ottawa can veto if it’s too vague, too tricky, or smells like political blackmail, where a group runs a campaign telling voters to choose to separate so Saskatchewan and Alberta will have a better bargaining position with Ottawa.
What’s not clear in the Clarity Act is that it doesn’t actually say what counts as a “clear majority.” 51%? 60%? It’s deliberately fuzzy allowing Ottawa to decide what counts as a “yes.”
And even if the vote is successful, the feds will weigh how many people voted and any other circumstances Ottawa considers to be relevant. The Feds would need to consider the views of First Nations.“
… this is from a newsletter I subscribe to, which coincidentally wrote about the Clarity Act yesterday.
[Flatlander readers weigh in on Saskatchewan secession
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The one thing off in here is that they’re trying to tell people they would still keep their Canadian benefits. This is not a serious question. You’re either in or you’re out.
97% of NDP voters in Alberta oppose separation.
72% of UCP members would vote against separation if the Conservative Party is in power in Ottawa.
That tells you how few real separatists are in Alberta.
It also tells you UCP and Albertan Conservative voters look at politics as a Mad Max / Death Wish 2025 team sport.
As an Albertan, I am getting so very tired of hearing from these idiot separtist groups. The vast majority of us are true Canadians that live in Alberta. Not the other way around.
These tools put all their eggs in one oil stained basket. What are they going to do after they have destroyed the land and demand for expensive dirty oil falls?
> „Perhaps when Danielle wakes up and realizes that her base is almost unanimous behind the idea of Alberta independence, she might have to get a different idea on the timing,“
That’s the crux of it. This is her amateur hour political maneuvering coming back around to bite her at the expense of the rest of the province.
She made it *abundantly* clear that she would only legislate based on what the UCP delegates wanted, then teamed up with TBA to define *who* was a delegate.
Now, those delegates are calling her on it and want her to run the province off the tracks. She’ll either go with it to keep her job, or the UCP will fracture and buckle when the knives come out. Imagine risking a fucking Constitutional crisis just to try and keep your job.
It’s amazing how effective this sabre rattling has been at distracting the media from the ongoing healthcare scandals in Alberta.
> and residents of a breakaway Alberta republic would still keep their Canadian passports and Canada Pension Plan entitlements
That’s not how a sovereign nation works…
All this does is provide easy distraction for Smith and her cronies from the actual investigation they’re facing because of the healthcare issues.