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Ich und meine Familie wollen in den kommenden Jahren nach Norwegen ziehen und suchen nach dem möglichen. Wir schauen immer wieder Wohnungsoptionen und es scheint unglaublich mit der Größe und dem Preis der Immobilien zu sein. Wir kommen aus Australien, wo ein kleines Haus mitten im Nirgendwo immer noch so viel wie diese Orte holt:
https://www.finn.no/realestate/homes/ad.html?finnkode=276478799&ci=24
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Wir haben eine große Familie von 6 Kindern und 3 Erwachsenen, daher sind diese großen Häuser genau das, wonach wir suchen. Und unser Haus von geringer Qualität könnte zwei kaufen. Aber gibt es einen Haken? Soweit ich sehen kann, sind sie nur eine halbe Stunde von Schulen entfernt, in der Nähe von Geschäften usw. Ich suche einige Tipps, wonach ich von Eingeborenen oder anderen Menschen achten soll, oder sogar andere Menschen, die diese Traumarbeit gemacht haben. Jede Hilfe, um Anfängerstiche zu vermeiden, wäre großartig!
Is there a catch to these houses?
byu/Odd-Smoke4619 inNorway
Von Odd-Smoke4619
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It is 130 years old an pretty badly insulated. But for a location like that it seems like a fair price. Difficult to migrate to Norway
The catch is that it’s in the middle of nowhere and nobody wants to live in the middle of nowhere.
You’ve got EU/Norwegian citizenship? You can’t just buy a house and move to Norway without the proper visa.
I think the catch is simply that this place is in a rural area. Most people do not want to live in such a place.
There may also be related issues, for example it may be quite difficult to get around in winter — but that someone else would have to report on.
In all probability every school, shop, clinic or any other amenity will be 10 km away. You will also have to look forwards to the government royally fucking all house owners over with a compulsory order to insulate their homes within a year or two.
If you move out here you are doing Norway in hardcore mode.
It is a house from 1894 with poor insulation (G) in an area which can be very cold at winter. The price itself seems fair in this area which is remote.
And keep in mind that there is less jobs in rural areas, especially those high skilled jobs your need to get a working visa as an non-EU resident
The only real catch is that you should expect high upgrade costs due to poor insulation. Like atleast 1 million
An added one is how you deal with winter, because the inland is a lot colder than by the coast.
Remember if it is a real farm (landbruk) you need to have education as a farmer. This is not a farm. All info is in „komplett salgsoppgave“ remember TG3 can mean old, not broken. If you have a lot of extra money after buying a house like this, maybe ask a local craftsman what it will cost to redo/add the insulation. You can also do it yourself, just make sure that you use propper norwegian building techniques or you can get mold/rot problems.
Easier for an Indonesian fisherman to get residency in Australia than for you and your family to get the same in Norway.
As for the house, supply and demand.
Distances dont mean the same (culturally) in Europe as they mean in Australia or US. Half an hour to the nearest town with shops is a nightmare to most Norwegians. And the range of food available in a small convenience store in a mountain would be… a terrible shock to you.
Add to that you probably need a special 4×4 vehicle to drive around in the snow in the winter there.
I wouldn’t live there with children. It’s very isolating. Also it’s not normal (not sure but I think it isn’t allowed either) to homeschool in Norway.
I would assume that a Norwegian who purchases that house would be for vacation only (even if it’s a couple weekends and holidays)
The others have also mentioned the need for repair (not immediate, but in the mid term) roof, insulation, baths. Thats adding 1-2 million.
And yes you cannot just purchase a home and move to Norway without a long term visa
Check page 10 of the sales report, there are several major renovations expected. 4 items expected to cost more than 300 000 NOK, and 2 costing between 100 000 – 300 000 NOK. So you’re looking at renovations coming up costing 1-2 million NOK, or possibly more. Definitely need to read those reports in detail.
The „catch“ for this house and your background is having to drive for an hour (unless there is snow, about a third of the year) to a place where you could reasonably find a job. Your kids moving out at 16 because there is no videregående (ages 16-19) nearby. Never going to the cinema, bowling, bar, restaurant,… because those are also an hour away. Not have any other entertainment then going for endless walks, except in spring when the entire area smells like fertilizer and you can’t breath. Oh the house is also old and likely badly isolated and as my Australian colleague told me: „The coldest day in Australia is still warmer than the hottest one in Norway“ (fair enough, he’s from Darwin).
By norwegian standards that’s not far from the middle of nowhere, and both houses are due for a full renovation from my quick look at the paperwork. Expect to spend at least another couple of million on renovations, especially bathrooms and windows are mostly way past what’s cosidered their usable life and/or of unknown age and without documentation. That area also get’s pretty cold in winter and the central heating is busted… Also, it may have schools and a shop within reasonable distance, but what about work? Depending on your fields that may be a big issue. Probably a good idea to double driving times to account for winter conditions too.
If you consider buying a house in Norway, get a Norwegian carpenter or someone else that knows Norwegian buildings to come with you at the viewing, I suspect a lot of things may be different from what you are used to so having someone to ask for advice and explain things will probably be well worth the cost. And visit the area beforehand, check out the shop, schools and so on, they may be different from your expectations and what you are used to.
Looks like a lovely place with a lot of potential thought!
As mentioned here already, the cost of this property will be double, if you want to live there all the year!
There are several «catches», from what I read the will be a powerline built on the property, and I suppose it is one of the big ones.
A lot of work/renovation need to be done with the buildings, there is water leaking into a basement, so the outside draining need to be fixed.
The basement in the barn is full of shit from animals, that is a big bonus if you want to feel like a real farmer!
For me all of this is a red flag!
I hope you downloaded the PDF and translated it, to understand what this property is really like..
Many good comments here. Sounds like with your budget and expectations you will definitely find affordable housing to your liking in Norway. Even so, maybe rent for a year or two before you commit to an area and a house? 🙂
Depressingly small lot no woods to take firewood from
Heating a badly insulated house may cost 30.-60.000 nok per year.
The few hundred meters of private roads will come at a cost of 5.-10.000 nok per year for hiring someone to shovel snow.
Water, garbage, and sewage are nok 16.-17000 per, and the cost is expected to increase with 50% in a few years.
Even if you invest in roof and insulation, you may come out with a loss if you must sell within a few years, as new jobs come mainly in the cities.
It’s Svatsum, there is nothing there. I have family in Follebu a bit further south, so I am familiar with the area. In this case the closest school is probably Forset, 30-40km away, and jobs will be a bit further away. Maybe even in Lillehammer if you dont work in retail, in the school or in the ski resort at Skei. With a car this will take you about 30 minutes to the school, and then 20-30 minutes to work. That isn’t too bad, but you are probably talking the same distances to your kids’ friends, football practice, skiing etc. You’ll be perfectly fine living there if the house is solid, but you need to spend a couple of hours driving around every day. Not the end of the world, but most people would rather not. The nature is gorgeous though, especially if you like skiing. That’s what the do there. Ski in the winter and pick rocks from the fields in the spring.
There are similar houses near or even just outside cities, around 3-4 million nok. If you are ok with a house that needs fixing, you can find. In winter it will get very very cold inside…