„Gewichtswächter haben mich auf das Scheitern vorbereitet“ – Warum die Diätbranche gegen Stöße wie Ozempic verliert
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1e6pxg125wo
Von platoonhippopotamus
„Gewichtswächter haben mich auf das Scheitern vorbereitet“ – Warum die Diätbranche gegen Stöße wie Ozempic verliert
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1e6pxg125wo
Von platoonhippopotamus
22 Kommentare
„How could I lose weight long term if I had to follow this mad points system? Food is not measured in points – it’s measured in calories, fat, macro nutrients.“
So close to getting it but so far at the same time.
because Ozempic actually works in ways that calorie counting can not.
The pharmaceutical make-up of Ozempic has been around for 30 years as a treatment for diabetes, so in that sense, I’m not expecting extreme side-effects.
The problem with using this for weight loss is that we don’t have any longitudinal data on how long the effects of treatment last, once people discontinue taking the injections.
Will the desire to eat and rewards gained from food ramp back up, leading to excessive weight-gain post-treatment?
The research is pretty clear. Extreme weight fluctuation can cause more harm and strain to the body than maintaining one’s overweight.
It’s far better to lose weight gradually over time, so healthy eating habits can emerge, to reduce the likelihood the body isn’t put through the strain of weight fluctuation.
Time will tell if Ozempic had long-term benefits, but it’s far too early to say.
Pharmaceutical companies have vested interest in promoting the benefits of Ozempic, so we also shouldn’t be naive to hype.
It’s also plausible that these drugs might be needed for life, and I’m not sure people are aware of this. Again, it is far too early to say, though.
wait until she finds out weightloss has less to do with intake and more to do with input. this is why the data is skewed with weightwatchers.. some do 0 exercise and think its all about following the meal plan. sometimes i think we’re going backwards in terms of intellect.
Ozempic is winning because it’s easier, plain and simple.
I spent a couple years trying to lose weight and I kept self sabotaging because I’d get a month in and say “I haven’t lost what I wanted to, guess I’ll fall back into bad habits.”
People don’t commit to diets, and then they lie and tell everyone else that the diet didn’t work for them. It did. Keto isn’t meant to be “meat and fat, but the occasional cheeky cheesecake on the side.” Atkins back in the day wasn’t meant to be “meat and a bottle of Coke to cool off after a workout.”
Way too many people diet by saying “ill eat the food on the diet, but ill eat other things too.”
It’s the “I ate like shit today… but I added a salad so it’s healthy” mentality
Intake less calories than you burn.
Billions wasted by people desperately trying to ignore this biological fact.
Ozempic has shown that the body positivity movement was bullshit. Look at all the fat celebrities who championed it, only to turn around and use it themselves. I’m looking at you, Lizzo.
This whole industry is a giant sham, glad to see it biting the dust.
„It was easier to just take this drug instead of putting in hard work and effort“
Weightwatchers is archaic. There are more better methods like getting a fitness tracker like Fitbit to monitor your calorie expenditure. There are plenty of apps that sync with fitness trackers where you can log the food you eat.
Basically – people like something that requires zero effort? So surprising!!!
Weight watchers business model was trying to obfuscate the fact that you’re fat because you eat too much, so it sold you the idea that you were just eating the wrong types of food. Ultimately what it was selling was *an excuse for your own poor behaviour*.
Now there’s a drug that makes you not want to eat (specific foods) so it’s game over for them.
When will people realise the entire business model of things like weight watchers is to have people pay a subscription to lose weight, if their plan was a permanent solution they’d be out of business in no time at all.
All my friends that have tried it do well for a few months then don’t anymore. My work colleague decided on the injection in July last year and has just passed the 40kg loss mark. Honestly, I know which one makes sense these days.
I’ve struggled with weight my whole life.
And still am.
WeightWatchers is a bunch of bullshit. It doesnt tackle portion control and lets you snack in free foods all day.
It took PTSD to kickstart my ability to overcome food noise.
I lost 7kg in 2 weeks through involuntary starvation and then had the opportunity to slowly rebuild my diet using chicken and broccoli.
‚Normal‘ people simply do not understand what its like to be mentally compelled to eat something roughly once every six secconds.
As my mental health restabilises the food noise is back, and its a fucking monster. I’ve been off sick for the last 5 months to sort myself out, and even with every opportunity i have (and do) to take exersize and boost my ceretonin i’m terrifed it wont be enough.
I need to loose another 45kg
I have to tell myself every minute of every day that nothing tastes better than loosing 7kg feels. If i didnt have that horrible, grueling, tortured kickstart i dont know how i would find the motivation.
If Ozempic gives people the power to see what can be achieved if they can maintain a calorie defecit, great!
But i very much suspect the food noise returns when the drugs stop and you end up reverting
These weight loss jabs are guaranteed to cause serious health problems in the long run, it’s so obvious.
Fatty’s want the easy option – what a surprise.
If you want to be healthy long term you need a sensible diet with controlled intake of balanced food not constant snacking on shit. You need to exercise regularly…. Forever. There is no easy shortcut.
Always use GLP-1a meds with exercise AND a ‘psychology and lifestyle’ programme. If you do, you might lose 15% of your total body weight over a year (that’s £2,800 from Boots) and still have lost 12% a year later and still have good muscle tone.
Go the lazy “stab and go” route and you will spend the same, but a year later will only have lost 5% while likely having serious muscle loss causing a lot of back and shoulder problems.
Read the paper thing that comes in the packet.
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Weight watchers also weigh you with all your clothes on, and often they were on an evening for those working. Your weight can fluctuate so much based on what you’re eating and drinking that day.
Are Brits not weirded out but the casual positive connotation of “jabs” yet?
All diet systems will lose out to jabs, because, lets face it, most people are lazy, and want a quick fix. I speak as someone who is continually failing on a diet of some sort.
r/UnitedKingdom’s distressing lack of empathy, compassion and love for other people is on full display yet again in this thread.
As a happy person now on Ozempic, who has struggled with their weight and compulsive eating habits/disorders for most of their adult life, I would like to personally tell each and every person taking the opportunity to kick these people while they’re trying their best: Please, go fuck yourself.
Yes the majority of weight-loss is about calories in, calories out, and increasing physical activity. Yes, we fucking *know* this. Just like a heroin addict isn’t shooting up in the fucking alleyway under some sort of pretense that it’s a health exercise that leads to a longer life.
But fixing these problems is fucking *difficult*. If you’ve never had an addiction then I envy you, I have suffered with multiple kinds of addictions and take it from me – fixing my eating habits was harder than kicking Class As. My body feels like it goes into diabetic shock if I skip a meal, my high-stress job burns me out long before it’s time for the gym and supporting my family takes every shread of energy and care I have that I have none left for myself at the end of the day.
But sure, lets all fucking round yet again on the people who are trying to sort their lives out. I hate to break it to all the narrowminded, hateful twats in this thread; Appetite suppressants as a way to teach yourself that you don’t need to overeat to live, and what an appropriate portion size is, and to help you be more active by removing the consequences of overconsumption *are fucking usefull tools* when it comes to helping people lose weight.
*Jesus H fucking christ.*
The problem with the woman in the article is the expectation other people will fix her – sounds like she did/does need therapy to help understand her thinking & behaviour towards food. Weight Watcher and slimming world etc should always have been seen as tool to weight loss not a magic bullet. Same for the obesity problem generally – why are people getting bigger, tackle the cause and provide tools for support. But in the UK we just treat the symptom. We need more awareness on nutrition and exercise. If you don’t eat you risk low
Vitamin and mineral intake and chronic illness later in life, if you don’t tackle exercise you again risk mobility and chronic illness later.
IME, people who have persistently been unable to manage their own weight always seem to have a lot of dietary advice for other people to follow. Stop telling me to eat the full fat version of things! You’re obsessed!