> The PM said his Government was „committed to the triple lock“, which will put hundreds of pounds extra into the pockets of pensioners over the coming years.
OpticalData on
No money for benefits.
Unless you’re a pensioner, then please enjoy your completely non-means tested pension that by design is completely unsustainable as it guarantees your pension will go up by an equal or greater amount than the wages that make up the tax base that funds it.
Labour. You’re already unpopular on the WFA (pensioner cash bonus) means testing, you have a huge majority and years until the next GE.
Go for the jugular now and get it over and done with. Tie pensions to a more sustainable or at minimum more societally cohesive metric.
I’m personally a fan of average public sector pay rise %.
eskay233 on
Why do I get the feeling I’m going to pay for others to have the triple lock my entire working life, just to not have the benefit of it myself on retirement…
cmfarsight on
Why is it not just inflation or wages. Those actually make sense. 2.5 is just a random number picked out of the air, that is going to sink us.
Optimaldeath on
Sadly it seems that to make them change their minds on this requires ending immigration as a crutch altogether, it’s the only thing keeping GDP growth positive.
They will never willingly make the sensible decision to limit the ridiculous growth in this unsustainable policy, it should never have been allowed to go above the median wage increase of the dwindling worker population.
bananablegh on
pisses me off that the only one of Labour’s actions they’re willing to uturn on is the one i actually support
paul_thomas84 on
Rather than revise or scrap the Triple Lock they will just keep raising the state retirement age so that more and more people wont get a penny back from all their NI contributions and have to keep working until they drop dead or can afford to retire with a private pension…
Sweaty-Proposal7396 on
Lol he has no choice but to keep it in place
Pensioners already abandoning labour in droves…
If he does anything to pensions then labour is finished
PriorCarpenter8007 on
Shocker
This country is run on the whims of old people basically and their playground, better to accept it and make the best of it
I mean we’re still talking about the winter fuel allowance as if it was greatest injustice of all time
Hardly surprising they’re doing nout to the unsustainable model
TheFergPunk on
I mean this isn’t surprising. Ending the triple lock is political suicide, no party will touch it.
jtthom on
“Starmer, however, has pointed to the annual increase in the state pension, which he argues will largely offset this”
It’s a mathematical fact that the £900 increase they got offsets the £200 cut in winter cash handout they’ll lose.
When are we going to call it what it is? It’s simply another intergenerational wealth transfer to the old and (relatively) wealthy
parkway_parkway on
I mean to be fair one way to end the whinging about the WFP is to destroy the triple lock.
Logical-Brief-420 on
I can’t help but feel extremely fucking resentful of a huge number of pensioners as a young person.
The old cunts consistently vote to shaft us again and again and yet they’re rewarded with hand out after hand out. And who’s left paying for it? Because it’s certainly not them
WGSMA on
Such a half-measure to go for WFA and not the much more expensive Triple Lock
adm010 on
This is unsustainable for much longer. But then we get 25% of pensioners who didn’t save privately living in hardship, 25% being millionaires, but all getting the same level of benefit, yet still globally being below average. We desperately need a long term solution here and a proper conversation around means testing it (esp as we go by and find many more havent saved due to loss of comfortable company pensions), and we all need to get over the idea that weve been paying in – weve not, its not a soverign fund with our own pots, it is a benefit paid for by tax.
Wonderful-Support-57 on
Oh great, more commitment to a generation that’s already had the most support of any generation in history, while slashing the same level of commitment to every other one.
No-Cheetah4294 on
Honestly F you if you support the triple lock it’s so unfair
fhfkjgkjb on
And people wonder why the ultra rich avoid taxes. I sure as fuck would pay as little as possible if I could afford a decent accountant knowing that money would have been spent on some racist old geezers.
Virtual-Feedback-638 on
I think, I will start putting my money in a shoe box.
Western-Climate-2317 on
Support the future of our country. Rip the band off and nuke the triple lock. Old fuckers ripping us a new one as always. Cut back on your avocado toast then you might be able to afford bingo night hen.
CoJaJola on
Utter gerontocracy.
This country is the last days of Rome crossed with the Thick of It.
Anyone under 40 should get out if they can, this is only going to get worse for them.
Dan_Glebitz on
They may keep the triple lock but they wont raise the base tax code so they will be taking it back again taxes soon enough and they know it!
Rimbo90 on
Oh Keir, the Daily Mail and the alt-right will never love you, you sausage.
It’s actually embarrassing to watch them pursue these voters so much. They’re getting slammed in 2029.
cozyHousecatWasTaken on
Why are we still giving more money to what is arguably the wealthiest cohort on the planet?
Boul_D_Rer on
Reform are on their way and they’re looking at the constituents like meat’s back on the menu boys!
ArcticAlmond on
Super duper triple lock mega + is getting announced.
Important_Ruin on
Have you keep biggest voting block happy. To the detriment of everyone else.
Just see the reaction to WFA becoming means tested, absolutle uproar from generation who got everything handed to them.
Dizzy_Association315 on
It all adds up
I know of a pensioner couple….
Both claiming state pension, one on high rate pip , the other has just claimed top rate AA (interesting as they don’t seem to have the care levels needed but ageuk are happy to fill in the forms to maximise the claim). On top of that they will now get pension credit, severe disability premium (each) and council tax support.
AA alone is £440+ and the top rate pip is about £600+. God knows how much more when you add on PC, severe disability premium and council tax. 😬 Of and yeah they’ll get the winter fuel payment back.
And here’s me trying to survive on the small amount of PIP I get that’s most likely going to disappear.
But yeah pensioners have it so tough (and yet don’t have to provide any actual evidence for attendance allowance…which btw I kind of feel AA should be the same as child DLA which are your need are greater than others your age-we all know getting old comes with health issues for most)
Sea-Caterpillar-255 on
It’s hard to attack a government with no actual policies or programmes.
But then reality checks in and forces Keir to take some actual actions (big NI rise, winter fuel means testing).
And when that’s literally all he has done, it’s easy to attack…
blue_rizla on
We’re in a real demographic timebomb and the proportion of old people who need support versus the population of young people who need to pay taxes to support them is going to hit a wall in about a generation. Any government has to choose one of three options and they’re all a disaster.
1. Cut benefits for pensioners = get voted out
2. Significantly increase immigration = get voted out
3. Increase taxes on the young = get voted out.
Pick one of those, or the country goes broke. They all know it as well, they just can’t say it.
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> The PM said his Government was „committed to the triple lock“, which will put hundreds of pounds extra into the pockets of pensioners over the coming years.
No money for benefits.
Unless you’re a pensioner, then please enjoy your completely non-means tested pension that by design is completely unsustainable as it guarantees your pension will go up by an equal or greater amount than the wages that make up the tax base that funds it.
Labour. You’re already unpopular on the WFA (pensioner cash bonus) means testing, you have a huge majority and years until the next GE.
Go for the jugular now and get it over and done with. Tie pensions to a more sustainable or at minimum more societally cohesive metric.
I’m personally a fan of average public sector pay rise %.
Why do I get the feeling I’m going to pay for others to have the triple lock my entire working life, just to not have the benefit of it myself on retirement…
Why is it not just inflation or wages. Those actually make sense. 2.5 is just a random number picked out of the air, that is going to sink us.
Sadly it seems that to make them change their minds on this requires ending immigration as a crutch altogether, it’s the only thing keeping GDP growth positive.
They will never willingly make the sensible decision to limit the ridiculous growth in this unsustainable policy, it should never have been allowed to go above the median wage increase of the dwindling worker population.
pisses me off that the only one of Labour’s actions they’re willing to uturn on is the one i actually support
Rather than revise or scrap the Triple Lock they will just keep raising the state retirement age so that more and more people wont get a penny back from all their NI contributions and have to keep working until they drop dead or can afford to retire with a private pension…
Lol he has no choice but to keep it in place
Pensioners already abandoning labour in droves…
If he does anything to pensions then labour is finished
Shocker
This country is run on the whims of old people basically and their playground, better to accept it and make the best of it
I mean we’re still talking about the winter fuel allowance as if it was greatest injustice of all time
Hardly surprising they’re doing nout to the unsustainable model
I mean this isn’t surprising. Ending the triple lock is political suicide, no party will touch it.
“Starmer, however, has pointed to the annual increase in the state pension, which he argues will largely offset this”
It’s a mathematical fact that the £900 increase they got offsets the £200 cut in winter cash handout they’ll lose.
When are we going to call it what it is? It’s simply another intergenerational wealth transfer to the old and (relatively) wealthy
I mean to be fair one way to end the whinging about the WFP is to destroy the triple lock.
I can’t help but feel extremely fucking resentful of a huge number of pensioners as a young person.
The old cunts consistently vote to shaft us again and again and yet they’re rewarded with hand out after hand out. And who’s left paying for it? Because it’s certainly not them
Such a half-measure to go for WFA and not the much more expensive Triple Lock
This is unsustainable for much longer. But then we get 25% of pensioners who didn’t save privately living in hardship, 25% being millionaires, but all getting the same level of benefit, yet still globally being below average. We desperately need a long term solution here and a proper conversation around means testing it (esp as we go by and find many more havent saved due to loss of comfortable company pensions), and we all need to get over the idea that weve been paying in – weve not, its not a soverign fund with our own pots, it is a benefit paid for by tax.
Oh great, more commitment to a generation that’s already had the most support of any generation in history, while slashing the same level of commitment to every other one.
Honestly F you if you support the triple lock it’s so unfair
And people wonder why the ultra rich avoid taxes. I sure as fuck would pay as little as possible if I could afford a decent accountant knowing that money would have been spent on some racist old geezers.
I think, I will start putting my money in a shoe box.
Support the future of our country. Rip the band off and nuke the triple lock. Old fuckers ripping us a new one as always. Cut back on your avocado toast then you might be able to afford bingo night hen.
Utter gerontocracy.
This country is the last days of Rome crossed with the Thick of It.
Anyone under 40 should get out if they can, this is only going to get worse for them.
They may keep the triple lock but they wont raise the base tax code so they will be taking it back again taxes soon enough and they know it!
Oh Keir, the Daily Mail and the alt-right will never love you, you sausage.
It’s actually embarrassing to watch them pursue these voters so much. They’re getting slammed in 2029.
Why are we still giving more money to what is arguably the wealthiest cohort on the planet?
Reform are on their way and they’re looking at the constituents like meat’s back on the menu boys!
Super duper triple lock mega + is getting announced.
Have you keep biggest voting block happy. To the detriment of everyone else.
Just see the reaction to WFA becoming means tested, absolutle uproar from generation who got everything handed to them.
It all adds up
I know of a pensioner couple….
Both claiming state pension, one on high rate pip , the other has just claimed top rate AA (interesting as they don’t seem to have the care levels needed but ageuk are happy to fill in the forms to maximise the claim). On top of that they will now get pension credit, severe disability premium (each) and council tax support.
AA alone is £440+ and the top rate pip is about £600+. God knows how much more when you add on PC, severe disability premium and council tax. 😬 Of and yeah they’ll get the winter fuel payment back.
And here’s me trying to survive on the small amount of PIP I get that’s most likely going to disappear.
But yeah pensioners have it so tough (and yet don’t have to provide any actual evidence for attendance allowance…which btw I kind of feel AA should be the same as child DLA which are your need are greater than others your age-we all know getting old comes with health issues for most)
It’s hard to attack a government with no actual policies or programmes.
But then reality checks in and forces Keir to take some actual actions (big NI rise, winter fuel means testing).
And when that’s literally all he has done, it’s easy to attack…
We’re in a real demographic timebomb and the proportion of old people who need support versus the population of young people who need to pay taxes to support them is going to hit a wall in about a generation. Any government has to choose one of three options and they’re all a disaster.
1. Cut benefits for pensioners = get voted out
2. Significantly increase immigration = get voted out
3. Increase taxes on the young = get voted out.
Pick one of those, or the country goes broke. They all know it as well, they just can’t say it.