This, soon Canada and the rumours of a good one with the EU will be fantastic
TheChattyRat on
Devils in the details. Could be a big boost could be a rounding error. I reserve the right to be impressed.
sisali on
We need to see the deal really before any comments, I do hope they have done a good job.
Logical-Brief-420 on
I hope to be impressed, but prepare to be disappointed.
As is the UK way.
GhostMotley on
If this includes more visas for Indians, or exempts Indian workers from paying national insurance for any period of time, this will be a truly disastrous deal for the UK and British workers, and should be revoked ASAP by a future Government.
GuyLookingForPorn on
>The deal does not include any change in immigration policy, including towards Indian students studying in the UK, the British government said.
xParesh on
This is great news. India is the 4th biggest economy in the world and might start rivaling China some day
Mountain_Ad_8525 on
Starmer caved on India’s demands for them to not pay National Insurance according to Modi’s latest tweet.
Indian workers being transferred by their employer to work in the UK will not have to pay National Insurance.
After thresholds, this makes it around 20% cheaper for an Indian firm to hire an Indian than it does to hire a Brit.
JimmyKorr on
We get British pounds sent to India , you get unlimited discount labor. – Modi.
EU have been trying to negotiate with India since 2007 – glad we could wrap this up
GreatBritishHedgehog on
Indian firms sending staff to the UK pay no National Insurance on those assignees.
Once thresholds apply, hiring an Indian is about 20% cheaper than hiring a Brit: Brits pay 8% employee NI and firms pay 15% employer NI
Wonderful_Dingo3391 on
Whiskey is huge in India. They love their fake scotch. Whether they can afford the proper stuff remains to be seen considering their whiskey was a few quid a bottle when I was there 20 years ago
CobaltTJ on
Don’t worry, Top Gear already sorted it 13 years ago
berfunckle_777 on
If you work in an industry with a high proportion of Indian workers (e.g., I.T.) then this is very, very bad for you
Timoth_Hutchinson on
Finally all that work the Jeremy, James and Richard did has paid off.
Cyanopicacooki on
I’d much rather have tandoori chicken than chlorinated chicken
iamezekiel1_14 on
How many do we have to take annually as a condition? I’m happy to apologise if that isn’t a constraint.
i-readit2 on
Whisky tariffs at 75% who done this deal. Donald trump
phata-phat on
Hopefully furthered by free movement of labour and services between the two great nations. Remove all barriers!
selfstartr on
So…India can sell to us easier…but what do we get in return? India ain’t a rich country.
They’re hardly going to be paying top dollar for our service offerings.
They can’t afford our stuff.
Univeralise on
Devil is the detail; let’s see how it plays out. The NI exemption is concerning but if it’s only for up to 6 months it might not be as consequential as others are stating.
Remeber there is also visa costs to circulate workers and anyone who’s worked on projects can be aware of how long they take sometimes.
Argent-Eagle on
Before all the Brexiteers start rejoicing google double contravention agreement. Aka Indian businesses can import cheap Indian workers to the UK so erm another Brexit win of mass migration I guess?
OkMap3209 on
I hope they made it easier for indian immigrants to change employers in this case. Indentured roles has given a significant downward pressure on pay. And the cost to employers should not be lower for using foreign labour. If the NI scrap is employees only, that would be a good thing for leverage. But scrapping employers NI would be more harmful than good.
SubjectCraft8475 on
Hold on Indians not paying NI doesnt that make them cheaper to employ which means employers would hire Indians over British workers?
Emotional_Butterf1y on
Great – even more reason for UK business to off shore IT jobs. No tax or NI.
AdaptableBeef on
>“As part of the agreement, the UK and India will strike a double contribution convention under which Indian workers temporarily living in the UK will not have to pay national insurance contributions for three years.“
Great; so at a time when Labour increases the NI burden on British employers they remove on foreign workers who will probably remit most of their wages abroad rather than spend it locally.
Starmer’s outdone himself with this one.
Wgh555 on
Dropping tariffs on our cars from 100% to 10% that is a massive win. Might actually save Jaguar Land Rover lol
Jay_6125 on
Congrats ‚Agent Starmer ‚. A cunning and genius plan hiking taxes up for the struggling working public whilst simultaneously making migrants exempt from NI tax and still giving them access to NHS, Housing and benefits, will ensure the compete and utter demise of the Labour Party. 👏
Starmer has that incredible timing of making everything worse….just at the wrong time. The man is a one off.
disordered-attic-2 on
Ok so we’ve given away our high paid IT professional base, for more whiskey sales. Nice.
KeyLog256 on
It does disappoint me a bit we don’t hear much about the UK’s trade deals with other countries post-Brexit. It’s almost like the media *want* to make us think it’s all doom and gloom.
We now have free trade deals with –
Albania
The „Andean Countries“ (Colombia, Ecuador, Peru)
Australia
Cameroon
Canada
„CARIFORUM“ (Antigua and Barbuda, Bahamas, Barbados, Belize, Dominica, Dominican Republic, Grenada, Guyana, Jamaica, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Suriname, Trinidad and Tobago)
Central America (Costa Rica, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua, Panama)
The EU (27 members, independently – Akrotiri and Dhekelia, Andorra, Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Monaco, Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Romania, San Marino, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden)
Faroe Islands
Georgia
Ghana
Iceland
Lichtenstein
Norway
Israel
Ivory Coast
Japan
Jordan
Kenya
Kosovo
Lebanon
Switzerland
Mexico
Moldova
Morocco
New Zealand
North Macedonia
„Pacific States“ (Fiji, Papua New Guinea, Samoa, Solomon Islands)
Palestine
Serbia
Singapore
South Korea
„Southern Africa Customs Union and Mozambique“ (Botswana, Eswatini, Lesotho, Mozambique, Namibia, South Africa)
Tunisia
Turkey
Ukraine
Vietnam
We’re also in the „Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership“ which includes some of the above.
We’re negotiating agreements at present with –
Algeria
Bosnia
Canada (a wider deal than the one we already have)
Greenland
„Gulf Cooperation Council“ (Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, UAE)
India (Agreed in principle, as per the thread topic)
Israel
Maldives
Montenegro
Switzerland (independent of the one alongside Lichtenstein as above)
Thailand
Turkey
The United States
I’d say we’re doing pretty bloody well!
HedoSpecter69 on
As part of the agreement, the UK and India will
strike a double contribution convention under
which Indian workers temporarily living in the
UK will not have to pay national insurance
contributions for three years. The same applies
to British workers in India, and meets a key
demand by Delhi.
India has a population 20 times larger than the UK.
I genuinely do not understand why any government would so blatantly undermine British workers like this. Utter lunacy.
Kixsian on
For people who are „concerned“ about the immigration part of this deal let me explain please:
The article states that indians who work for indian companies that come over here to work for those same companies will be NI exempt for 3 years.
Lets break this down this means that they already have a job with the indian company, they will be on an ICT which is Inter-Company Transfer Visa that is good for 3 years. As part of this visa process an NHS Surcharge will be paid which means they will be paying for the use of the NHS upfront. Secondly there is no path to ILR or Citizenship with an ICT, they would have to then switch to a critical skills work visa, in which case the salary restrictions are higher, and they would be paying NI on top of NHS Surcharge.
I hope this helps, this is not a „free door“ for a bunch more people to just come over. These are company transfers on a temporary basis, and the exemption is so they do not pay into a pot for state pension that they will enver qualify for while also paying into their state pension pot in india.
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This, soon Canada and the rumours of a good one with the EU will be fantastic
Devils in the details. Could be a big boost could be a rounding error. I reserve the right to be impressed.
We need to see the deal really before any comments, I do hope they have done a good job.
I hope to be impressed, but prepare to be disappointed.
As is the UK way.
If this includes more visas for Indians, or exempts Indian workers from paying national insurance for any period of time, this will be a truly disastrous deal for the UK and British workers, and should be revoked ASAP by a future Government.
>The deal does not include any change in immigration policy, including towards Indian students studying in the UK, the British government said.
This is great news. India is the 4th biggest economy in the world and might start rivaling China some day
Starmer caved on India’s demands for them to not pay National Insurance according to Modi’s latest tweet.
Indian workers being transferred by their employer to work in the UK will not have to pay National Insurance.
After thresholds, this makes it around 20% cheaper for an Indian firm to hire an Indian than it does to hire a Brit.
We get British pounds sent to India , you get unlimited discount labor. – Modi.
Alt link from Reuters: [https://www.reuters.com/world/india/india-uk-conclude-talks-over-free-trade-pact-pm-modi-says-2025-05-06/](https://www.reuters.com/world/india/india-uk-conclude-talks-over-free-trade-pact-pm-modi-says-2025-05-06/)
An archived version can be found [here](https://archive.is/?run=1&url=https://www.reuters.com/world/india/india-uk-conclude-talks-over-free-trade-pact-pm-modi-says-2025-05-06/) or [here](https://archive.ph/?run=1&url=https://www.reuters.com/world/india/india-uk-conclude-talks-over-free-trade-pact-pm-modi-says-2025-05-06/) to bypass the paywall.
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EU have been trying to negotiate with India since 2007 – glad we could wrap this up
Indian firms sending staff to the UK pay no National Insurance on those assignees.
Once thresholds apply, hiring an Indian is about 20% cheaper than hiring a Brit: Brits pay 8% employee NI and firms pay 15% employer NI
Whiskey is huge in India. They love their fake scotch. Whether they can afford the proper stuff remains to be seen considering their whiskey was a few quid a bottle when I was there 20 years ago
Don’t worry, Top Gear already sorted it 13 years ago
If you work in an industry with a high proportion of Indian workers (e.g., I.T.) then this is very, very bad for you
Finally all that work the Jeremy, James and Richard did has paid off.
I’d much rather have tandoori chicken than chlorinated chicken
How many do we have to take annually as a condition? I’m happy to apologise if that isn’t a constraint.
Whisky tariffs at 75% who done this deal. Donald trump
Hopefully furthered by free movement of labour and services between the two great nations. Remove all barriers!
So…India can sell to us easier…but what do we get in return? India ain’t a rich country.
They’re hardly going to be paying top dollar for our service offerings.
They can’t afford our stuff.
Devil is the detail; let’s see how it plays out. The NI exemption is concerning but if it’s only for up to 6 months it might not be as consequential as others are stating.
Remeber there is also visa costs to circulate workers and anyone who’s worked on projects can be aware of how long they take sometimes.
Before all the Brexiteers start rejoicing google double contravention agreement. Aka Indian businesses can import cheap Indian workers to the UK so erm another Brexit win of mass migration I guess?
I hope they made it easier for indian immigrants to change employers in this case. Indentured roles has given a significant downward pressure on pay. And the cost to employers should not be lower for using foreign labour. If the NI scrap is employees only, that would be a good thing for leverage. But scrapping employers NI would be more harmful than good.
Hold on Indians not paying NI doesnt that make them cheaper to employ which means employers would hire Indians over British workers?
Great – even more reason for UK business to off shore IT jobs. No tax or NI.
>“As part of the agreement, the UK and India will strike a double contribution convention under which Indian workers temporarily living in the UK will not have to pay national insurance contributions for three years.“
Great; so at a time when Labour increases the NI burden on British employers they remove on foreign workers who will probably remit most of their wages abroad rather than spend it locally.
Starmer’s outdone himself with this one.
Dropping tariffs on our cars from 100% to 10% that is a massive win. Might actually save Jaguar Land Rover lol
Congrats ‚Agent Starmer ‚. A cunning and genius plan hiking taxes up for the struggling working public whilst simultaneously making migrants exempt from NI tax and still giving them access to NHS, Housing and benefits, will ensure the compete and utter demise of the Labour Party. 👏
Starmer has that incredible timing of making everything worse….just at the wrong time. The man is a one off.
Ok so we’ve given away our high paid IT professional base, for more whiskey sales. Nice.
It does disappoint me a bit we don’t hear much about the UK’s trade deals with other countries post-Brexit. It’s almost like the media *want* to make us think it’s all doom and gloom.
We now have free trade deals with –
Albania
The „Andean Countries“ (Colombia, Ecuador, Peru)
Australia
Cameroon
Canada
„CARIFORUM“ (Antigua and Barbuda, Bahamas, Barbados, Belize, Dominica, Dominican Republic, Grenada, Guyana, Jamaica, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Suriname, Trinidad and Tobago)
Central America (Costa Rica, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua, Panama)
Chile
„Eastern & Southern Africa“ (Madagascar, Mauritius, Seychelles, Zimbabwe)
Egypt
The EU (27 members, independently – Akrotiri and Dhekelia, Andorra, Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Monaco, Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Romania, San Marino, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden)
Faroe Islands
Georgia
Ghana
Iceland
Lichtenstein
Norway
Israel
Ivory Coast
Japan
Jordan
Kenya
Kosovo
Lebanon
Switzerland
Mexico
Moldova
Morocco
New Zealand
North Macedonia
„Pacific States“ (Fiji, Papua New Guinea, Samoa, Solomon Islands)
Palestine
Serbia
Singapore
South Korea
„Southern Africa Customs Union and Mozambique“ (Botswana, Eswatini, Lesotho, Mozambique, Namibia, South Africa)
Tunisia
Turkey
Ukraine
Vietnam
We’re also in the „Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership“ which includes some of the above.
We’re negotiating agreements at present with –
Algeria
Bosnia
Canada (a wider deal than the one we already have)
Greenland
„Gulf Cooperation Council“ (Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, UAE)
India (Agreed in principle, as per the thread topic)
Israel
Maldives
Montenegro
Switzerland (independent of the one alongside Lichtenstein as above)
Thailand
Turkey
The United States
I’d say we’re doing pretty bloody well!
As part of the agreement, the UK and India will
strike a double contribution convention under
which Indian workers temporarily living in the
UK will not have to pay national insurance
contributions for three years. The same applies
to British workers in India, and meets a key
demand by Delhi.
India has a population 20 times larger than the UK.
I genuinely do not understand why any government would so blatantly undermine British workers like this. Utter lunacy.
For people who are „concerned“ about the immigration part of this deal let me explain please:
The article states that indians who work for indian companies that come over here to work for those same companies will be NI exempt for 3 years.
Lets break this down this means that they already have a job with the indian company, they will be on an ICT which is Inter-Company Transfer Visa that is good for 3 years. As part of this visa process an NHS Surcharge will be paid which means they will be paying for the use of the NHS upfront. Secondly there is no path to ILR or Citizenship with an ICT, they would have to then switch to a critical skills work visa, in which case the salary restrictions are higher, and they would be paying NI on top of NHS Surcharge.
I hope this helps, this is not a „free door“ for a bunch more people to just come over. These are company transfers on a temporary basis, and the exemption is so they do not pay into a pot for state pension that they will enver qualify for while also paying into their state pension pot in india.