When can UK taxpayers sue Tory ministers for incompetence?
Tasty-Explanation503 on
I simply do not believe people who don’t have a right to be in this country, deserve the right to appeals.
Its a broken system and appeals just allow rejected applicants to stay longer.
OpticalData on
>On Monday, a Home Office spokesman said: “These figures are purely speculative and based on historical data, which may not accurately reflect future costs.
Move along folks, it’s the Telegraph digging up Tory Government figures and presenting them as a Labour issue again.
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elliott2106 on
The government has gotta get their shit together before they basically hand the country to reform and then we’ll live in a fascist shithole.
Safe-Hair-7688 on
Invade a country, Kill many of its people, Promise you will help those who fight against the bad guys safety. Leave the country after failing in your invasion.
now complain and whine about helping those who promised you would take care of, if they helped you…. England!!!
Autogrowfactory on
Three in four appeal decision
Between 2004 and 2021, three in four of all asylum seekers who were rejected appealed the decision. If three in four of the 2,666 people who were rejected last year appealed and waited one year for the outcome, the taxpayer would face costs of £4.7m – based on National Audit Office estimates of the costs
We live in a clown world
thejackalreborn on
This is why third country processing is the correct answer – we wouldn’t be returning them to Taliban rule. They’d be staying in a safe third country. It would also be a deterrent
chronicnerv on
As long as the profits are privatised they will allow things to stay the same. Nobody changes a system that they are making billions in profit from.
This is how you know the people have no true power with a vote, there is no one to vote for that will structurally be able to change the system away from privatising profits and as socialising losses.
Change does not start until all foreign military bases are removed and we have our own payment systems.
Statham19842 on
Here come the virtue signalling redditors in 3…2….1
RedofPaw on
The Telegraph? A story about asylum seekers?
This is definitely not what I would expect from them. On a tuesday. It’s usually Monday, Wednesday, Twice on thursdays, Friday get’s a minor story and then all weekend there’s major 5 page spreads on immigration and how much it costs.
Sundays of course they have their weekly „Lunch with Nigel Farage“ giveaway. Of course he never actually turns up to the lunch, instead he uses Skype to call the winner and tell them he’s too scared he will get stabbed to meet face to face. With Skype gone this of course will make things much harder, but Farage has promised he will fearmonger at least 30% more to make up for it.
Ruby-Shark on
When the decision is made by an O grade civil servant who just left school… maybe fair to allow an appeal process.
HouseOfWyrd on
Okay, now work out much tax payer money ends up in the pockets of the uber wealthy.
moreboredthanyouare on
You know what, maybe if we hadn’t invaded their country and blown it all to shit, they might not wanted to move in the first place. Just a thought.
Armodeen on
Right wing billionaire media barons stirring up shit to divide us. Manipulation of people’s fears and emotions in order to drive their own agenda.
Late-Painting-7831 on
In government terms that’s a sum total of fuck all
DeeplyProfound_ on
British money for British citizens… Most of the time at least
Top_Opposites on
Which means irl at least £6m
How about other immigrants from other nations?
AA0754 on
Wether the exact figures are true, it is this profound sense of unfairness which is radicalising everyone. Even me and I’m a brown British person.
You do everything you’re told to do, study, work, hard, get a job and everything still feels so still. I have been renting for a decade and have paid around £100,000 in rent and yet I am nowhere near close to buying a home…and someone can just pop up and end up in a paid for hotel without any input.
It’s just maddening.
101m4n on
£5M a month?
That’s on average 8.3p per month per taxpayer. I think I’ll live. If they can’t prove they’re in danger in their home country, then their appeals will fail and they’ll be set sent home.
It’s not a perfect system. I’m sure some people do get in when they shouldn’t and others don’t get in when they should. But if they’re genuinely in danger, it would be inhuman to send them back. I think it’s right that we at least hear them out.
knobber_jobbler on
While it’s not mutually exclusive, getting mad over £5 million a month while roughly £500 million is lost due to tax avoidance in the same period is a bit strange to me. Given the vast difference in that, why aren’t people at a minimum equally upset at tax avoidance? I don’t see it being published every day. Perhaps The Telegraph is trying to manipulate people.
3headsonaspike on
In my profession it’s taken years of work to raise funds to build a £1.5m cancer screening centre.
Jay_6125 on
This is a national disgrace.
The people have had enough.
Important_Ruin on
Another Telegraph article on asylum seekers, again another Tory failure being dressed as a Labour one.
This sub is slowly goosesteeping it’s way to be a right-wing echo chamber, same posters posting same sort of articles from same papers, with a certain leaning.
Lukewarmluk on
Is there anything the public can do? This is just so tiring.
FlyingDolphino on
Media sparking outrage over what is on a country scale not a large expenditure. Should this happen? No. But recognize we have much bigger issues and waste elsewhere and this is the wealthy redirecting our issues away from them.
We need to fight wealth inequality, and fight for better rights and living conditions for the average UK citizen. If we magically solved this issue tomorrow, your life would not get better.
If you are the sort to just blame migrants for this, you are being fooled by wealthy politicians and their corporate lobbies taking advantage of the real struggle and pain you have experienced trying their hardest to make sure that we do not demand they pay their fair share to society, or otherwise ask for meaningful change will stop them getting richer and you getting poorer.
We can do better guys
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Another Tory failure!
When can UK taxpayers sue Tory ministers for incompetence?
I simply do not believe people who don’t have a right to be in this country, deserve the right to appeals.
Its a broken system and appeals just allow rejected applicants to stay longer.
>On Monday, a Home Office spokesman said: “These figures are purely speculative and based on historical data, which may not accurately reflect future costs.
Move along folks, it’s the Telegraph digging up Tory Government figures and presenting them as a Labour issue again.
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The government has gotta get their shit together before they basically hand the country to reform and then we’ll live in a fascist shithole.
Invade a country, Kill many of its people, Promise you will help those who fight against the bad guys safety. Leave the country after failing in your invasion.
now complain and whine about helping those who promised you would take care of, if they helped you…. England!!!
Three in four appeal decision
Between 2004 and 2021, three in four of all asylum seekers who were rejected appealed the decision. If three in four of the 2,666 people who were rejected last year appealed and waited one year for the outcome, the taxpayer would face costs of £4.7m – based on National Audit Office estimates of the costs
We live in a clown world
This is why third country processing is the correct answer – we wouldn’t be returning them to Taliban rule. They’d be staying in a safe third country. It would also be a deterrent
As long as the profits are privatised they will allow things to stay the same. Nobody changes a system that they are making billions in profit from.
This is how you know the people have no true power with a vote, there is no one to vote for that will structurally be able to change the system away from privatising profits and as socialising losses.
Change does not start until all foreign military bases are removed and we have our own payment systems.
Here come the virtue signalling redditors in 3…2….1
The Telegraph? A story about asylum seekers?
This is definitely not what I would expect from them. On a tuesday. It’s usually Monday, Wednesday, Twice on thursdays, Friday get’s a minor story and then all weekend there’s major 5 page spreads on immigration and how much it costs.
Sundays of course they have their weekly „Lunch with Nigel Farage“ giveaway. Of course he never actually turns up to the lunch, instead he uses Skype to call the winner and tell them he’s too scared he will get stabbed to meet face to face. With Skype gone this of course will make things much harder, but Farage has promised he will fearmonger at least 30% more to make up for it.
When the decision is made by an O grade civil servant who just left school… maybe fair to allow an appeal process.
Okay, now work out much tax payer money ends up in the pockets of the uber wealthy.
You know what, maybe if we hadn’t invaded their country and blown it all to shit, they might not wanted to move in the first place. Just a thought.
Right wing billionaire media barons stirring up shit to divide us. Manipulation of people’s fears and emotions in order to drive their own agenda.
In government terms that’s a sum total of fuck all
British money for British citizens… Most of the time at least
Which means irl at least £6m
How about other immigrants from other nations?
Wether the exact figures are true, it is this profound sense of unfairness which is radicalising everyone. Even me and I’m a brown British person.
You do everything you’re told to do, study, work, hard, get a job and everything still feels so still. I have been renting for a decade and have paid around £100,000 in rent and yet I am nowhere near close to buying a home…and someone can just pop up and end up in a paid for hotel without any input.
It’s just maddening.
£5M a month?
That’s on average 8.3p per month per taxpayer. I think I’ll live. If they can’t prove they’re in danger in their home country, then their appeals will fail and they’ll be set sent home.
It’s not a perfect system. I’m sure some people do get in when they shouldn’t and others don’t get in when they should. But if they’re genuinely in danger, it would be inhuman to send them back. I think it’s right that we at least hear them out.
While it’s not mutually exclusive, getting mad over £5 million a month while roughly £500 million is lost due to tax avoidance in the same period is a bit strange to me. Given the vast difference in that, why aren’t people at a minimum equally upset at tax avoidance? I don’t see it being published every day. Perhaps The Telegraph is trying to manipulate people.
In my profession it’s taken years of work to raise funds to build a £1.5m cancer screening centre.
This is a national disgrace.
The people have had enough.
Another Telegraph article on asylum seekers, again another Tory failure being dressed as a Labour one.
This sub is slowly goosesteeping it’s way to be a right-wing echo chamber, same posters posting same sort of articles from same papers, with a certain leaning.
Is there anything the public can do? This is just so tiring.
Media sparking outrage over what is on a country scale not a large expenditure. Should this happen? No. But recognize we have much bigger issues and waste elsewhere and this is the wealthy redirecting our issues away from them.
We need to fight wealth inequality, and fight for better rights and living conditions for the average UK citizen. If we magically solved this issue tomorrow, your life would not get better.
Look at how the Thames Water CEO got millions in dividends, despite being on the brink of bankruptcy and polluting our water (https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/feb/08/thames-water-chairman-accused-of-conflict-of-interest-over-37m-share-dividend-payment). Further have paid out £7b since being privatized in 1989, meanwhile your water bills have gone up and up.
We are now the 9th most economically unequal OECD nation
https://equalitytrust.org.uk/scale-economic-inequality-uk/, grown 50% in the last 8 years.
If you are the sort to just blame migrants for this, you are being fooled by wealthy politicians and their corporate lobbies taking advantage of the real struggle and pain you have experienced trying their hardest to make sure that we do not demand they pay their fair share to society, or otherwise ask for meaningful change will stop them getting richer and you getting poorer.
We can do better guys