ICE and several other agencies at DHS are going to need to be „de-nazied“ after Trump.
bonzoboy2000 on
From the article it seems like we all better have our lawyers.
Bad_Habit_Nun on
Well yeah, they’re technically law enforcement that’s what they do; lie and ruin/take lives.
Knightro829 on
Don’t. Talk. To. Cops.
Crystaldaddy on
I want democratic leaders to start scheduling Nuremberg trials. List every single transgression and their perpetrators and give them a trial date post 2028. Let Americans vote on it
No_Working7791 on
What ICE is stating makes NO SENSE. It defies commom sense. According to them he approached them stating he was an ILLEGAL alien from Mexico, how is anyone supposed to believe this BS?
subUrbanMire on
Oh my fucking god, that X comments section…
„He was paid by Soros to cause a media circus!“
„Can he be charged for lying to a government official?“
„Don’t care, where are the MASS deportations?“
Evidently, it’s incredibly easy to lie to people who don’t want the truth.
Ace-Cuddler on
This article does a good job of summarizing what happened and the thing that stands out to me the most is that this vulnerable young man, who had just recovered from a medical condition, did exactly what many of us are taught as children. He approached a government official for help. But, instead of getting assistance, he was treated as a liar and a criminal based on the unforgivable crime of appearing like a “foreigner” (i.e., for being Latino in the USA).
AaminMarritza on
ICE was created in 2003. America existed just fine for 227 years without it. I think America would be better off if it spent the next couple centuries without it.
99borks on
I’m not religious, and don’t believe in ’supernatural‘ good or evil. But this is **evil**. We are going through an absolutely shameful episode of our history.
SmartWonderWoman on
“Ultimately, while Hermosillo managed to secure his release, his account is a horror story of how quickly someone can be detained on the suspicion of being an undocumented immigrant, and how the government will even lie to keep someone in detention. The Trump administration is staunchly resisting any kind of legal safeguard to protect the rights of immigrants or those mistakenly detained, blatantly denying people the right of due process.”
ScotchCigarsEspresso on
Just spitballing here.
If you live in a „stand your ground“ state, and are approached by a masked individual with no ID….
Stand your ground.
KaleLate4894 on
How low will republicans go?
Short-Shopping3197 on
The most vulnerable in society are always the proving ground for authoritarianism before they move on to everyone else.
Captnlunch on
“If he’s brown, lock him down.” This seems to be their credo
LightDarkBeing on
ICE are brownshirts.
_scyllinice_ on
The MAGA crew will hold this up as an example that the system is working because he was released and not sent to El Salvador.
Doesn’t matter that it was 10 days or that it shouldn’t have happened in the first place.
ThatBasketball17 on
It should be taught in schools that cops can (and do) lie about everything.
letshaveforce on
This right here is why Ive decided to shun Trump Voters. As a hispanic American I now gotta legit think about not leaving home without my ID, not because it might be an inconvininence but because I too might be picked up off the streets just cause im hispanic. Fuck every single motherfucker who voted for Trump. Eat shit, hope you get audited. May your hemorrhoids flare up for the rest of your life.
CaptainZeroDark30 on
Your daily reminder: cops are under no obligation to say anything truthful. Never talk to the cops.
CcryMeARiver on
Private prisons are run for profit. The longer you are in chokey, the more shareholders receive in dividend.
Fuck late-stage capitalism.
kandoras on
>After being released from the Tucson hospital, Hermosillo did not know how to get back to where he was staying, he told the Popular Information newsletter. He sought out a police officer for help.
This might be the best still-living example of „If you have a problem and ask the police for help, you now have two problems.“
AcanthisittaNo6653 on
We all must be immigrants because this isn’t the country we started 2025 with. There’s almost nothing left..
Cilad777 on
Never answer anything a cop asks. Hand them the documents, license, insurance, registration. You should always have these readily available to make it quick. When the cop asks do you know why I stopped you. Don’t get sassy. Just say „no“. Do not explain anything. Do not justify, say where you are going, or where you came from. Just stare at them. Every thing you say will be written down later, or captured by a camera. If they really push, say, I would be happy to have a discussion with my lawyer present. They will make things a pain, and take time.
Firm-Advertising5396 on
When, if, we get back to normal again federal government agencies and employees will have to go through some type of re orientation to re learn what is right and wrong again.
Common-Ad6470 on
The agents are just taking their cue from Trump lying all the time and this is the problem when the rot and corruption is at the top and trickles down.
Honestly the US are going to take years to recover from Trump and his goons even if they survive the next three years nine months…👍
midnight-on-the-sun on
I have a Chinese National friend who has a Canadian visa and was in the process of getting a US resident visa. I’m no sure what his status was at the time. He had been in the US already for some time. His family was moved over. Chinese are required to pay thousands of dollars to come over and bring their families.
He went to Canada stayed a few days and was coming back and they got him at that border. Canada/WA state border. They took him to the ICE detention center in Tacoma and he was there for almost a year. He got a lawyer for 10,000.00 and was able to get out. He’d still be there or deported if he hadn’t had the resources to pay to get out. They impounded his car…had to pay a hefty fine to get it back. His English is about a c level. My Chinese is zero. We can and do communicate. He and others are being preyed upon by the US.
Pharinx on
The transcript is also incredibly stupid:
> Q: How did you cross the border between Mexico and the United States this time?
> A: In the desert
> Q: Are you in the United States illegally now?
> A: Yes
> Q: Did you know that living and working in the United States without permission is against the law?
I’ve never seen an ice incident report that is fully accurate. They’re always wrong. Theyre prepared for litigation. They’re unsworn. They’re pure hearsay. But immigration courts use them like they’re the gospel truth, especially in the 5th circuit.
itijara on
This is the third story I have heard this week where a U.S. citizen arrested was said to have said that they „entered the U.S. illegally“. In every case, the person arrested refuted that statement. Is there any consequence for police lying on arrest documentation? Do they not have body cams to verify the claim?
Few_Ticket6959 on
This man was a citizen and was detained for almost two weeks because he had a seizure and didn’t have his state ID. Stories like this are why we have due process and why it’s needed smh.
Techialo on
ACAB people right as usual, and the sky is blue.
TheGhostOfJoeyRamone on
The key here is that we’re talking about for profit detention centres.
eastbay77 on
Can’t the people getting falsely detained lawyer up and sue?
Rationalinsanity1990 on
Does ICE even have jurisdiction over American citizens? Isn’t this legally kidnapping?
Schiffy94 on
So how soon until we „accidentally“ deport someone born in the US to El Salvador and „lose“ them, only to not find them until after they’re dead?
Asking for about 330 million friends.
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ICE and several other agencies at DHS are going to need to be „de-nazied“ after Trump.
From the article it seems like we all better have our lawyers.
Well yeah, they’re technically law enforcement that’s what they do; lie and ruin/take lives.
Don’t. Talk. To. Cops.
I want democratic leaders to start scheduling Nuremberg trials. List every single transgression and their perpetrators and give them a trial date post 2028. Let Americans vote on it
What ICE is stating makes NO SENSE. It defies commom sense. According to them he approached them stating he was an ILLEGAL alien from Mexico, how is anyone supposed to believe this BS?
Oh my fucking god, that X comments section…
„He was paid by Soros to cause a media circus!“
„Can he be charged for lying to a government official?“
„Don’t care, where are the MASS deportations?“
Evidently, it’s incredibly easy to lie to people who don’t want the truth.
This article does a good job of summarizing what happened and the thing that stands out to me the most is that this vulnerable young man, who had just recovered from a medical condition, did exactly what many of us are taught as children. He approached a government official for help. But, instead of getting assistance, he was treated as a liar and a criminal based on the unforgivable crime of appearing like a “foreigner” (i.e., for being Latino in the USA).
ICE was created in 2003. America existed just fine for 227 years without it. I think America would be better off if it spent the next couple centuries without it.
I’m not religious, and don’t believe in ’supernatural‘ good or evil. But this is **evil**. We are going through an absolutely shameful episode of our history.
“Ultimately, while Hermosillo managed to secure his release, his account is a horror story of how quickly someone can be detained on the suspicion of being an undocumented immigrant, and how the government will even lie to keep someone in detention. The Trump administration is staunchly resisting any kind of legal safeguard to protect the rights of immigrants or those mistakenly detained, blatantly denying people the right of due process.”
Just spitballing here.
If you live in a „stand your ground“ state, and are approached by a masked individual with no ID….
Stand your ground.
How low will republicans go?
The most vulnerable in society are always the proving ground for authoritarianism before they move on to everyone else.
“If he’s brown, lock him down.” This seems to be their credo
ICE are brownshirts.
The MAGA crew will hold this up as an example that the system is working because he was released and not sent to El Salvador.
Doesn’t matter that it was 10 days or that it shouldn’t have happened in the first place.
It should be taught in schools that cops can (and do) lie about everything.
This right here is why Ive decided to shun Trump Voters. As a hispanic American I now gotta legit think about not leaving home without my ID, not because it might be an inconvininence but because I too might be picked up off the streets just cause im hispanic. Fuck every single motherfucker who voted for Trump. Eat shit, hope you get audited. May your hemorrhoids flare up for the rest of your life.
Your daily reminder: cops are under no obligation to say anything truthful. Never talk to the cops.
Private prisons are run for profit. The longer you are in chokey, the more shareholders receive in dividend.
Fuck late-stage capitalism.
>After being released from the Tucson hospital, Hermosillo did not know how to get back to where he was staying, he told the Popular Information newsletter. He sought out a police officer for help.
This might be the best still-living example of „If you have a problem and ask the police for help, you now have two problems.“
We all must be immigrants because this isn’t the country we started 2025 with. There’s almost nothing left..
Never answer anything a cop asks. Hand them the documents, license, insurance, registration. You should always have these readily available to make it quick. When the cop asks do you know why I stopped you. Don’t get sassy. Just say „no“. Do not explain anything. Do not justify, say where you are going, or where you came from. Just stare at them. Every thing you say will be written down later, or captured by a camera. If they really push, say, I would be happy to have a discussion with my lawyer present. They will make things a pain, and take time.
When, if, we get back to normal again federal government agencies and employees will have to go through some type of re orientation to re learn what is right and wrong again.
The agents are just taking their cue from Trump lying all the time and this is the problem when the rot and corruption is at the top and trickles down.
Honestly the US are going to take years to recover from Trump and his goons even if they survive the next three years nine months…👍
I have a Chinese National friend who has a Canadian visa and was in the process of getting a US resident visa. I’m no sure what his status was at the time. He had been in the US already for some time. His family was moved over. Chinese are required to pay thousands of dollars to come over and bring their families.
He went to Canada stayed a few days and was coming back and they got him at that border. Canada/WA state border. They took him to the ICE detention center in Tacoma and he was there for almost a year. He got a lawyer for 10,000.00 and was able to get out. He’d still be there or deported if he hadn’t had the resources to pay to get out. They impounded his car…had to pay a hefty fine to get it back. His English is about a c level. My Chinese is zero. We can and do communicate. He and others are being preyed upon by the US.
The transcript is also incredibly stupid:
> Q: How did you cross the border between Mexico and the United States this time?
> A: In the desert
> Q: Are you in the United States illegally now?
> A: Yes
> Q: Did you know that living and working in the United States without permission is against the law?
> A: Yes
> Q: When did you cross the United States border?
> A: Yesturday
Immigration employees forging these transcripts like [GIF](https://i.imgur.com/WRsv0LM.gif)
I’m shocked. SHOCKED, I tell you.
These are shit people
I’ve never seen an ice incident report that is fully accurate. They’re always wrong. Theyre prepared for litigation. They’re unsworn. They’re pure hearsay. But immigration courts use them like they’re the gospel truth, especially in the 5th circuit.
This is the third story I have heard this week where a U.S. citizen arrested was said to have said that they „entered the U.S. illegally“. In every case, the person arrested refuted that statement. Is there any consequence for police lying on arrest documentation? Do they not have body cams to verify the claim?
This man was a citizen and was detained for almost two weeks because he had a seizure and didn’t have his state ID. Stories like this are why we have due process and why it’s needed smh.
ACAB people right as usual, and the sky is blue.
The key here is that we’re talking about for profit detention centres.
Can’t the people getting falsely detained lawyer up and sue?
Does ICE even have jurisdiction over American citizens? Isn’t this legally kidnapping?
So how soon until we „accidentally“ deport someone born in the US to El Salvador and „lose“ them, only to not find them until after they’re dead?
Asking for about 330 million friends.