Edit: /s. I know the alarms have been going off for a long time.
SuggestionMedical736 on
I think we reached a point where you don’t need to be a scholar to conclude that.
invalidpassword on
This will be America’s biggest fight for survival since the Civil War.
ToNoMoCo on
>you don’t need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows
KaleLate4894 on
By choice ! Voted for this.
willBlockYouIfRude on
Swiftly? Authoritarianism been coming for awhile.
Most people will point back to the time in history when they started paying attention to politics. I’d point to 9/11 and the so-called patriot act of ~25 years ago.
Competitive_Ad291 on
*Bright Line Watch conducted its survey in early February. It plans to put another in the field soon. Carey, one of the co-directors, expects political scientists to downgrade America’s democracy even further.*
This survey was conducted just after inauguration and doesn’t capture assessments of everything that’s happened the last few weeks 😢
-Serene_Soul- on
We’ve got scholars warning us, but half the country thinks the real threat is drag shows and library books
jamusbondusvii on
Heading toward?
Tremenda-Carucha on
It’s truly frightening seeing how quickly our democracy is eroding, particularly given that the FCC is investigating broadcast outlets, except Fox News, of course, for potential bias and non-compliance, raising questions about media accountability and transparency, and the fact that the Trump administration hasn’t even responded to NPR’s request for comment… that’s just… confusing and concerning. And, like, what *is* he hiding?
woodenblinds on
no we are allready there. it’s not set in stone yet but getting there
HallucinogenicFish on
> While the vast majority of scholars surveyed say Trump is pushing the country toward autocracy, other professors strongly disagree. James Campbell, a retired political scientist at the University at Buffalo, SUNY, says Trump is using legitimate presidential powers to address long-standing problems. Campbell points to Trump’s use of tariffs to try to push companies to bring manufacturing jobs back to the United States. In recent decades, economic globalization led to catastrophic layoffs of everyone from furniture makers in North Carolina to auto assembly-line workers in the Midwest as firms sent work overseas, especially to China.
> **“I think they’ve done an excellent job,“ Campbell says of the Trump administration.**
🤨
> Campbell adds that he thinks many political scientists may see Trump as autocratic because they don’t like him or his politics.
> „I think most of them are coming from the political left,“ he says. „There’s a comfort in all of them getting together and saying, ‚Oh, Trump’s a bad guy. He’s authoritarian.‘ “
Sure, that must be it.
“Am I so out of touch? No, it’s the children who are wrong!”
ColorMeSchocked on
As did 70 million voters, all media with some common sense and empathy, the world
The MAGA’ts want this. They should move to Iran or Russia to live their dream out.
Fuck MAGA’ts.
spiritfiend on
I’m fairly certain there was a paper published ~10 years ago that provided strong evidence that the US was a functional oligarchy since 1973. Public opinion has no effect on policy, but business interests had strong correlation to implemented policy. This has been going on for a long time.
Vlongranter on
The US has been authoritarian for quite awhile. Even before Trump
DrinksandDragons on
It’s so obvious to anyone paying attention. Trump is following a playbook we can view in real time: Víktor Orban
iwefjsdo on
I strongly agree & don’t dispute their conclusions, however I disagree that he’s doing it well or competently or in any way which will manage to stabilize. The whole reason autocracies work and people stay silent is because they deliver the illusion of stability, but Trump isn’t doing this. He’s causing unrest and a possible economic recession. His policies have already lead to mass protests in the hundreds of thousands or millions — it took Erdogan and Orban years to get to that level of public demonstrations of dissent. Their early years were marked by economic growth and stability — that’s how they entrenched their power.
His approval rating continues to slide off a cliff — yes, I know that in the minds of many Redditors, they “can’t believe!” he still has a solid base, but 53-55% disapproval in the modern polarized US with deep party loyalty is actually quite an achievement. People say “well he still has 80-90% approval among Republicans” — but he always will, the part they’re missing is that the Republican voter base itself is shrinking.
I’m just gonna call it now, and I could be wrong — maybe it’s just hopium, but having studied history I’ll bet he can’t keep order and hold onto power for that long.
Maybe I’ll be eating my hat in an El Salvadoran prison in a couple years, but my prediction is this: The authoritarianism continues to deepen while, simultaneously, the economy gets worse and worse and unrest deepens until we reach a flashpoint — midterms obviously rigged, a major arrest, hell maybe it’s just massive unemployment — and the protests that have already happened get more frequent and worse to a point where he does something stupid to try and stay in power, like invoking the Insurrection Act, which unless he has some internet kill-switch only makes things worse, and the Republicans blink and impeach him.
This is unfathomable now, but Mike Johnson & co. aren’t completely brainless — they’ve studied history, they know Trump needs stability & what happens when you mix economic chaos with autocratic repression, even if Trump himself doesn’t. And ultimately as much as they’d like to retain power they don’t want a color revolution in the United States, because that’s a far more existential threat than opposition control.
thatguyp2 on
They’re wrong. We aren’t heading toward it. We’re already there.
ToNoMoCo on
people are reacting to this headline by attacking the scholars. We’re cooked folks.
Festering-Fecal on
Heading? We already here.
I swear journalism is dead.
NaptownSnowman on
We are there.
The constant laungauge of „We are heading..“ and „THis will make us…“
No, We are there.
LumiereGatsby on
I’m not a doctor but y”all are there now!
OsawatomieJB on
They had CPAC in Hungary for gods sake. To the political scientists in the article that don’t think Trump is authoritarian….WTF.
ProfessionalCraft983 on
Doesn’t take a scholar to know that.
antilittlepink on
MAGA operates like a Russian-backed extremist movement. Its followers are either wilfully betraying democratic values or too ignorant to see they’re playing straight into Putin’s strategy.
VanceKelley on
Heading toward authoritarianism?
trump attempted a coup to install himself as dictator, failed, ran for election on the promise to rule as a dictator, and won. He’s now ruling as a dictator. He violated the law on his first day in office when he illegally fired more than a dozen IGs. No consequences so he kept breaking the law every day since.
Almost 1 in 3 eligible voters (31%) turned out to try to prevent dictatorship. Even if America had a perfectly democratic election system (it doesn’t) that is not enough support for democracy for it to have survived.
Catymandoo on
What part of “I will be a dictator from day one” did they not hear?
Harsh perhaps, but now might not be the time for prevarication of words and deeds. That slippery slope is getting steeper.
rimalp on
Heading toward?
YOU ARE IN IT!
One person is ruling by decree. Court rulings are being ignored. And anyone who speaks up gets fired (or straight up deported) and replaced by a yea-sayer.
kerorobot on
Yeah no shit buddy.
Linkfan88 on
Heading towards‽ The US looks pretty fucking authoritarian already.
_MrCrabs_ on
Millions of people already said this. Good job „scholars“ for figuring it out /s
Due-Resort-2699 on
They needed to talk to hundreds of scholars to realise this?
anuiswatching on
Please do not count Democracy out!
Republicans are losing ranks, Americans love our Constitution and our Rights! This jumped up Traitor will not succeed, we will not surrender our constitution to ANYONE, let a lone this grifter.
lonelliott on
Heading towards? The folks in El Salvador, including an innocent father, would argue we passed that point a while ago.
strenuousobjector on
„Hundreds of people with eyes can see U.S. is swiftly heading toward authoritarianism“
lurch556 on
Wearing a mask in public spaces = authoritarian
Throwing people in prison indefinitely without due process = making America great again
Somehow people simultaneously hold these beliefs
The-Ex-Human on
The only thing that may possibly save us is the sheer incompetence of these clowns.
0098six on
Too late. We are there. Just ask yourself this question: what will it take to turn things back to normal?
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No shit. Did they just wake up?
Edit: /s. I know the alarms have been going off for a long time.
I think we reached a point where you don’t need to be a scholar to conclude that.
This will be America’s biggest fight for survival since the Civil War.
>you don’t need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows
By choice ! Voted for this.
Swiftly? Authoritarianism been coming for awhile.
Most people will point back to the time in history when they started paying attention to politics. I’d point to 9/11 and the so-called patriot act of ~25 years ago.
*Bright Line Watch conducted its survey in early February. It plans to put another in the field soon. Carey, one of the co-directors, expects political scientists to downgrade America’s democracy even further.*
This survey was conducted just after inauguration and doesn’t capture assessments of everything that’s happened the last few weeks 😢
We’ve got scholars warning us, but half the country thinks the real threat is drag shows and library books
Heading toward?
It’s truly frightening seeing how quickly our democracy is eroding, particularly given that the FCC is investigating broadcast outlets, except Fox News, of course, for potential bias and non-compliance, raising questions about media accountability and transparency, and the fact that the Trump administration hasn’t even responded to NPR’s request for comment… that’s just… confusing and concerning. And, like, what *is* he hiding?
no we are allready there. it’s not set in stone yet but getting there
> While the vast majority of scholars surveyed say Trump is pushing the country toward autocracy, other professors strongly disagree. James Campbell, a retired political scientist at the University at Buffalo, SUNY, says Trump is using legitimate presidential powers to address long-standing problems. Campbell points to Trump’s use of tariffs to try to push companies to bring manufacturing jobs back to the United States. In recent decades, economic globalization led to catastrophic layoffs of everyone from furniture makers in North Carolina to auto assembly-line workers in the Midwest as firms sent work overseas, especially to China.
> **“I think they’ve done an excellent job,“ Campbell says of the Trump administration.**
🤨
> Campbell adds that he thinks many political scientists may see Trump as autocratic because they don’t like him or his politics.
> „I think most of them are coming from the political left,“ he says. „There’s a comfort in all of them getting together and saying, ‚Oh, Trump’s a bad guy. He’s authoritarian.‘ “
Sure, that must be it.
“Am I so out of touch? No, it’s the children who are wrong!”
As did 70 million voters, all media with some common sense and empathy, the world
The MAGA’ts want this. They should move to Iran or Russia to live their dream out.
Fuck MAGA’ts.
I’m fairly certain there was a paper published ~10 years ago that provided strong evidence that the US was a functional oligarchy since 1973. Public opinion has no effect on policy, but business interests had strong correlation to implemented policy. This has been going on for a long time.
The US has been authoritarian for quite awhile. Even before Trump
It’s so obvious to anyone paying attention. Trump is following a playbook we can view in real time: Víktor Orban
I strongly agree & don’t dispute their conclusions, however I disagree that he’s doing it well or competently or in any way which will manage to stabilize. The whole reason autocracies work and people stay silent is because they deliver the illusion of stability, but Trump isn’t doing this. He’s causing unrest and a possible economic recession. His policies have already lead to mass protests in the hundreds of thousands or millions — it took Erdogan and Orban years to get to that level of public demonstrations of dissent. Their early years were marked by economic growth and stability — that’s how they entrenched their power.
His approval rating continues to slide off a cliff — yes, I know that in the minds of many Redditors, they “can’t believe!” he still has a solid base, but 53-55% disapproval in the modern polarized US with deep party loyalty is actually quite an achievement. People say “well he still has 80-90% approval among Republicans” — but he always will, the part they’re missing is that the Republican voter base itself is shrinking.
I’m just gonna call it now, and I could be wrong — maybe it’s just hopium, but having studied history I’ll bet he can’t keep order and hold onto power for that long.
Maybe I’ll be eating my hat in an El Salvadoran prison in a couple years, but my prediction is this: The authoritarianism continues to deepen while, simultaneously, the economy gets worse and worse and unrest deepens until we reach a flashpoint — midterms obviously rigged, a major arrest, hell maybe it’s just massive unemployment — and the protests that have already happened get more frequent and worse to a point where he does something stupid to try and stay in power, like invoking the Insurrection Act, which unless he has some internet kill-switch only makes things worse, and the Republicans blink and impeach him.
This is unfathomable now, but Mike Johnson & co. aren’t completely brainless — they’ve studied history, they know Trump needs stability & what happens when you mix economic chaos with autocratic repression, even if Trump himself doesn’t. And ultimately as much as they’d like to retain power they don’t want a color revolution in the United States, because that’s a far more existential threat than opposition control.
They’re wrong. We aren’t heading toward it. We’re already there.
people are reacting to this headline by attacking the scholars. We’re cooked folks.
Heading? We already here.
I swear journalism is dead.
We are there.
The constant laungauge of „We are heading..“ and „THis will make us…“
No, We are there.
I’m not a doctor but y”all are there now!
They had CPAC in Hungary for gods sake. To the political scientists in the article that don’t think Trump is authoritarian….WTF.
Doesn’t take a scholar to know that.
MAGA operates like a Russian-backed extremist movement. Its followers are either wilfully betraying democratic values or too ignorant to see they’re playing straight into Putin’s strategy.
Heading toward authoritarianism?
trump attempted a coup to install himself as dictator, failed, ran for election on the promise to rule as a dictator, and won. He’s now ruling as a dictator. He violated the law on his first day in office when he illegally fired more than a dozen IGs. No consequences so he kept breaking the law every day since.
Almost 1 in 3 eligible voters (31%) turned out to try to prevent dictatorship. Even if America had a perfectly democratic election system (it doesn’t) that is not enough support for democracy for it to have survived.
What part of “I will be a dictator from day one” did they not hear?
Harsh perhaps, but now might not be the time for prevarication of words and deeds. That slippery slope is getting steeper.
Heading toward?
YOU ARE IN IT!
One person is ruling by decree. Court rulings are being ignored. And anyone who speaks up gets fired (or straight up deported) and replaced by a yea-sayer.
Yeah no shit buddy.
Heading towards‽ The US looks pretty fucking authoritarian already.
Millions of people already said this. Good job „scholars“ for figuring it out /s
They needed to talk to hundreds of scholars to realise this?
Please do not count Democracy out!
Republicans are losing ranks, Americans love our Constitution and our Rights! This jumped up Traitor will not succeed, we will not surrender our constitution to ANYONE, let a lone this grifter.
Heading towards? The folks in El Salvador, including an innocent father, would argue we passed that point a while ago.
„Hundreds of people with eyes can see U.S. is swiftly heading toward authoritarianism“
Wearing a mask in public spaces = authoritarian
Throwing people in prison indefinitely without due process = making America great again
Somehow people simultaneously hold these beliefs
The only thing that may possibly save us is the sheer incompetence of these clowns.
Too late. We are there. Just ask yourself this question: what will it take to turn things back to normal?