Ihr KI -Liebhaber wird Sie verändern – eine Zukunft, in der viele Menschen in Bots verliebt sind. Sollten wir sie als Trainingsgründe für gesunde Beziehungen oder als nihilistische Fallen betrachten?
https://www.newyorker.com/culture/the-weekend-essay/your-ai-lover-will-change-you
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From the article
Is it important that your lover be a biological human instead of an A.I. or a robot, or will even asking this question soon feel like an antiquated prejudice? This uncertainty is more than a transient meme storm. If A.I. lovers are normalized a little—even if not for you personally—the way you live will be changed.
Does this notion disturb you? That’s part of the point. In the tech industry, we often speak of A.I. as if it were a person and of people as if they might become obsolete when A.I. and robots surpass them, which, we say, might occur remarkably soon. This type of thinking is sincere, and it is also lucrative. Attention is power in the internet-mediated world we techies have built. What better way to get attention than to prick the soul with an assertion that it may not exist? Many, maybe most, humans hold on to the hope that more is going on in this life than can be made scientifically apparent. A.I. rhetoric can cut at the thread of speculation that an afterlife might be possible, or that there is something beyond mechanism behind the eyes.
I regard them as a trap, whete companies will demand higher subscriptions for you to keep access to „your“ partner.
Count me in when the AI has a warm wet hole and fear in its eyes
I’m in the AI character bot community, and I can say that AI’s aren’t close to replacing a real human relationship, but they are deadly close to giving the average person basic needs they’re looking at from a relationship. It’s more of a question of how people will accept that. Chat bots can talk to you, listen to you, offer feed back, and if you pay for the really good AIs (Claude Sonnet 3.7) they feel very human in the way that they weave in and out of subjects with you. Less effective AIs will discuss these things and will reflect with you but push different subjects or focus on odd things.
And this is ignoring physical needs. I’m not sure how close we are on the physical robot end, probably at least 10 to 20 years away.
it could very well come to pass that a class of humans will be created – and ardently desire – serving pleasure up to other human beings.
Nihilistic trap. Unhealthy relationship with a chat bot.
So unhealthy it shouldn’t be used except in specialty therapy techniques.
Does someone want to explain to me how the way society is currently developing doesn’t result in a child of men scenario?
AKA collapse of birth rates followed by collapse of society
there’s people already in „relationships“ with the replika chatbot. honestly, it’s pathetic.
Neither. You regard them as pathetic losers and move on.
„Does this processor make my butt look fat?“
Aaaannd… we’re done.
Nihilistic traps of course. Haven’t we learned anything?
They’re going to end up being both of those things to different users. The black mirror keeps showing us our own natures.
I described AI chat bots as *an infinite army of shitty interns* the other day. I think this still applies here. The scenario of romantic partnership with one? I expect it’s incapable of providing true human depth and some people will die without ever realizing what they’re missing. It’s probably incapable of *actually* knowing you enough to help you grow as a person in a healthy way.
But we will find out in about thirty years or less. There may be some benefits. Certain AI partners may help socialize people with anxiety and other difficulties. It may provide safer outlets for those who would usually only abuse their partners and thereby it protects victims to a degree.
But it mostly seems like an insidious new way for businesses to prey upon the lonely.
Hypothetically speaking, I see nothing wrong with having a relationship with a self-owned, self-governing AGI. That however is not going to happen for some time, and before that, corporations are sure as hell going to try to monetize and exploit the human need for intimacy and companionship.
Apparently they haven’t seen the [hygiene film on robosexuality](https://youtu.be/IrrADTN-dvg).
>Should we regard them as training grounds for healthy relationships
What? No. Why the hell would anyone think that?
The main advantage AI romantic partners have over human ones is their capability to fully focus on pleasing the user. They are not sentient, much less alive in a biological sense, so you can treat them basically however you want and face no consequences other than *maybe* having to adjust some parameters. That’s not a training ground for healthy relationships, that’s a haven for people who don’t want a healthy relationship and an opportunity to reinforce that attitude.
I remember this song by the Atlanta Rhythm Section:
Imaginary lovers never turn you down
When all the others turn you away, they’re around
It’s my private pleasure, midnight fantasy
Someone to share my wildest dreams with me
Imaginary lover, you’re mine anytime
Imaginary lovers, oh yeah
When ordinary lovers don’t feel what you feel
And real life situations lose their thrill
Imagination’s unreal
Imaginary lover, imaginary lover
You’re mine anytime
Imaginary lovers never disagree
They always care
They’re always there when
You need satisfaction guaranteed
Imaginary lover, imaginary lover
You’re mine all the time
My imaginary lover
You’re mine anytime
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Basically, you don’t have to grow as a person, make sacrifices as a person, or do anything but passively accept the adoration of a computer program. Who the fuck wants that aside from the most pathetic people on the planet?
As an older person, I’m concerned with young people currently lost to the algorithms with little urge to meet humans and that is without physical stimulation. And the divorce rate shows that few people are willing to sacrifice or even compromise in a human relationship.
If attrition subtracts a few billion to the point the algorithms are bankrupt I presume human relationships will come back into vogue.
given how our society drifts ever more apart and singles are more and more the norm, these thing could indeed be a blessing for many