Das letzte Mal habe ich einen Beitrag über Trumps Einstellung zur Ukraine gestellt, und einige von Ihnen sagten, es habe nichts mit Finnland zu tun. Ok, vielleicht werden die gleichen Leute sagen, dass Trump ein anderes NATO -Land auch nichts mit Finnland zu tun hat?
Warum poste ich das hier? Weil wir bereit sein müssen und die Regierung bei potenziellen militärischen Budgetsteigerungen unterstützen müssen. Es wird uns zweifellos verletzen, weil dieses Geld aus anderen öffentlichen Sektoren genommen werden muss. Aber es gibt einfach keinen anderen Weg. Wir können uns nicht auf unsere Sicherheit auf andere verlassen. Es ist ausgezeichnet, wenn sie uns helfen, aber wir müssen bereit sein, uns selbst zu helfen.
Von Potatoe_expert
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NATO will be weaker without USA sure, but NATO will remain.
Antti Häkkänen will make a press release and there is no need to worry about where the money comes after that.
I would not react so dramatically to everything that Trump says. He says a lot of things that he’ll never end up doing.
Hopefully Americans come to their senses and impeach that piece of shit sooner than later before he causes any more damage. Meanwhile, maybe I should study Finnish a bit harder and try to get Finnish citizenship before the USA becomes the most hated country in the world. I’ve never felt much need for a Finnish passport because my US one has been a powerful enough passport, but that might change because of this madman in power.
Didn’t Denmark already say that it is fine, but the decision is made by Greenland?
Edit: I guess it was someone else. [Prime minister of Greenland tells:](https://www.reuters.com/world/significant-that-trump-recognised-greenland-self-determination-denmark-says-2025-03-05/)
””We do not want to be Americans, nor Danes, we are Kalaallit (Greenlanders). The Americans and their leader must understand that,” Egede said in a post on Facebook.
”We are not for sale and cannot be taken. Our future is determined by us in Greenland,” he added.”
Living in the timeline when Finland join NATO for 3 years and it implodes then Finnish drones may have to fight Americans in Greenland, and the Nordics will be sandwiched between US and Russia race for the arctic. It’s rough out here man.
Just change the name on Alaska to Greenland and call it a day.
We need the materials on greenland for ourselves more than trunbfppft taking it
Why would NATOs days be numbered? If anything USAs days in NATO are numbered.
I’m convinced all of you „NATO is dead“ people are Russian bots. NATO is weaker without the US but the rest of the alliance is more united than ever
This is not the end of NATO, it will remain, just maybe not with the US in it. We still very much share our security concerns with those of the rest of Europe, even more so with the Baltics and Nordics.
So basically doing what the us did covertly overtly. Just like china and russia.
What a fucking shit show of a government. Jesus Christ.
NATO doesn’t need USA. Most of the NATO power comes from other countries than USA.
USA doesn’t need to ask our help if things fo wrong with China
Finally Europeans understand why the rest of the world hates the USA. 🙂 Henry Kissinger „To be an enemy of the US is dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal“?
Most military interventions by the US post WWII were very unpopular internally. I believe if Cheeto Mussolini ever ordered an invasion to a NATO member hell would break loose and they would sooner descend into a civil war. Don’t forget that the military is still made of regular people and although the top of the military is now being gradually replaced with sycophants I still want to believe that among the ranks most wouldn’t sign up for this lunacy. Of course I know nothing of this and this is just speculation and in the end I still agree that this type of message is a wake up call for us (all Europeans) to decouple from the US and build up our own armaments industry even if that means harder times ahead of us.
NATO being USA’s organization and therefore „its days numbered“ without USA is one of the main misinfo propaganda points coming from USA and Russia.
It’s wild what is happening over there. I moved here from the US about 7 years ago. I can admit I am very ignorant politically because it’s always been a topic I try to avoid for the sake of getting angry and people fighting. So in general politics is not my strong suit.
I was never anti Trump nor have I been pro-Trump. I have been fairly neutral of him and honestly all of our presidents in my lifetime. So when he got elected again I was still just ‚ah ok well lets see then, maybe it will be fine.‘ But now, I am reading something new almost every day and he is just dismantling the country left and right and for the first time ever, I am completely uneasy at the state of my home. I almost feel naked being a US citizen at the moment. I feel like all hope is gone. We will be targeted and the most hated country (if we arent already are) in the world. I feel for the people who didn’t vote for him and I am starting to feel even for the people who did vote for him because they are all being fucked.
I for the first time am at a loss for words at the state of the US and the world for what’s to come. He is just turning everything into a giant fucking mess. I am starting to feel completely hopeless and just bracing for impact at this point.
Also that meeting with Ukraine the other day was absolutely abysmal and I felt horrible for him. I feel like they straight-up brought him to target him and make him look like a fool. Was very disheartening to see
Given these threats i wonder if we should halt the Finnish participation to F35 program. Those fighters are going to be a liability if we have to use them against their manufacturers.
It’s not like an „annexation“ is hard to do militarily. The 50 000 inhabitants are a bit of an issue, but certainly easier to manage than Gaza.
But what have they got, then? Lots of land covered with ice a mile thick. A lot of costs. No immediate benefits.
The UN will condemn it, sanctions will be introduced, the US will be alone (or with Russia, North Korea and Israel).
The only thing it makes sense for is if they will use it to put more pressure on Canada. “ Look: You’re surrounded!“
Another military alliance will replace NATO, based on NATO structures and using them.