I wouldn’t call it a partnership IMO. They just had one talk.
DrKaasBaas on
What is happening here is really disastrous. We have a country that full on violates everything the UN charter stands for in the most fundamental way imaginable by simmply annexing territory of a neigbhouring state recognized by the UN. Instead of standing up for the stability that this UN based framework has given the world after WW-II major powers in the world are tripping over each other for closer ties with the aggressor. It really comes down to the EU, UK, Canada, South korea, and Japan vs the rest. What a disappointment
Presidentclash2 on
I know this is gonna be unpopular but maybe it’s time to abandon the rule based order. I wouldn’t mind going back to a time of isolationist America, militarized Europe, and individual alliances, and spheres of influence
SpiritOfDefeat on
Dramatic foreign policy shifts and realignments only make the U.S. even less attractive as an ally and a partner. Decades of relationships are being strained in the attempt of mending ties with a state that never really did much to advance America’s interests in the modern era. And it could all be completely undone in four years. The whip lash of back and forth, radical shifts in policy, are as damaging as the acts that directly alienate America’s global partners.
At some point, China’s consistency makes them more desirable to work with. Stability and consistency are key in any partnership. American antics could end up pushing some countries over the edge, reluctantly shifting towards China’s camp. For those who care about American influence, power projection, and our ability to protect our global interests (which is something we’ve been uniquely positioned to achieve and have massively benefited from for decades) this is a disastrous scenario.
t0FF on
We will probably not know until Xi stop laughting, that will take a while.
DunkleFrumpTrunk on
This is the end of Pax Americana. Moreso, it is the end of the western world order.
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I wouldn’t call it a partnership IMO. They just had one talk.
What is happening here is really disastrous. We have a country that full on violates everything the UN charter stands for in the most fundamental way imaginable by simmply annexing territory of a neigbhouring state recognized by the UN. Instead of standing up for the stability that this UN based framework has given the world after WW-II major powers in the world are tripping over each other for closer ties with the aggressor. It really comes down to the EU, UK, Canada, South korea, and Japan vs the rest. What a disappointment
I know this is gonna be unpopular but maybe it’s time to abandon the rule based order. I wouldn’t mind going back to a time of isolationist America, militarized Europe, and individual alliances, and spheres of influence
Dramatic foreign policy shifts and realignments only make the U.S. even less attractive as an ally and a partner. Decades of relationships are being strained in the attempt of mending ties with a state that never really did much to advance America’s interests in the modern era. And it could all be completely undone in four years. The whip lash of back and forth, radical shifts in policy, are as damaging as the acts that directly alienate America’s global partners.
At some point, China’s consistency makes them more desirable to work with. Stability and consistency are key in any partnership. American antics could end up pushing some countries over the edge, reluctantly shifting towards China’s camp. For those who care about American influence, power projection, and our ability to protect our global interests (which is something we’ve been uniquely positioned to achieve and have massively benefited from for decades) this is a disastrous scenario.
We will probably not know until Xi stop laughting, that will take a while.
This is the end of Pax Americana. Moreso, it is the end of the western world order.