Amerikaner sind in einem algorithmischen Käfig gefangen
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/02/trump-administration-voter-perception/681598/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=the-atlantic&utm_content=edit-promo
Amerikaner sind in einem algorithmischen Käfig gefangen
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/02/trump-administration-voter-perception/681598/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=the-atlantic&utm_content=edit-promo
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This is a rehash of the post-truth concept.
Social media algorithms creating silos of people who all agree with one another.
Dystopian and beyond correction because of legalized corruption.
Thank you, Reddit Algorithm, for bringing this to my attention.
I will read the article but it just doesn’t work the same on the left as it does on the right. That’s why there’s never been successes like Rush Limbaugh, Alex Jones, or Fox News on the left. Liberals typically want to learn new information while conservatives want to hear they’re right over and over and over again. That’s why there’s Wikipedia and Conservapedia. That’s why right wingers created think tanks when research and academia didn’t suit them. That’s why Christians are creating their own „scientific“ journals because they can’t pass peer review in reputable scientific journals.
The algorithms are a problem. People are tied up in self reinforcing media spheres. However I think society’s belief about information and behavior is the bigger problem.
Freedom of speech has long been championed as virtuous. In the social media era that respect for free speech has distorted itself into a sort of disrespect for being careful or thoughtful.
Legacy media (print, TV, radio) is regulated. Journalists can be sued for stating falsehoods and there are decency standards for what’s presented. NBC can’t just air nude photos of Melanie Trump or Hunter Biden.
As a result of being regulated Legacy media is edited and reporters tend to read scripts that have typically been reviewed for some degree of accuracy. In this Media environment scripted and edited speech doesn’t come across as Free speech and thus doesn’t come across as honest speech. People are conditioned to distrust legacy media.
Meanwhile podcasters and social media influencers who are routinely giving hot takes and speaking without full knowledge or constraint get credit for their straight forwardness. Joe Rogan & Theo Von don’t have the FCC to contend with. On their pods they can say anything and don’t have to differentiate between what’s an ad vs a real thought. They can intermix paid promotions with hit takes and „just asking questions“ speech and audiences accept it all as honest.
The algorithms are bad. Our understanding of moderation and free speech is bad too. Being unencumbered by any rules doesn’t make one more prone to being authentic or honest. People who can take millions from advertisers without any requirement to tell their audience are NOT folks more inclined to tell the truth.
They’re stuck in here with me, I’m not stuck in here with them.
I find this highly ironic coming from The Atlantic, to be honest.
Edit: I think The Atlantic is a player in this, so I find the article from them amusing, the downvotes say that people don’t agree I guess. I’d say to do your due diligence.
How algorithms are being manipulated, and preyed on by propaganda is a human rights violation imo. It’s a legitimate disaster for society.
This is why you all need to move to the fediverse.
https://fedi.tips
https://www.fediverse.to
https://fediverse.party
Not if you turn your computer or phone off and go outside to play.
Yes, I agree with this concern. But let me present a counter argument as devils advocate: if people THINK they are happy, does it really matter if their life is objectively worse? Are people allowed to make their own choices, and if those choices lead to some impairment of their life, why should I worry about their self-induced misery?
The most logical rebuttal is: okay, but I don’t want to be dragged down with them. Another answer is: that argument of freedom of choice presupposes some
free will, and in a world of very sophisticated algorithms and behavioral psychology manipulation, it’s not a level playing field.
On an individual level, I think the main things we can do are to intentionally turn away from algorithms in our daily lives and engage more with curated media, even though this requires that we pay for that media.
Wouldn’t this be true for everyone that hangs out on the internet? I miss the days of private forums tbh, they might also be prone to opinion bubbles, but at least the users weren’t being manipulated by machines to cause all kinds of world wide problems…
I like a lot of security people have been sounding the alarms since FB tech is unrelated and we have no privacy laws.
You willingly walked into giving your data away and now this has lead to were we are.
It’s the concept of the mind prison. What things are you afraid to even think? You should examine why that is the case.
Is it a good or a bad thing?