I think the EU can stop the Russians alone. Maybe we should get 2000 nukes outside of NATO. Also if the USA goes alone, then the EU should consider the Chinese alternative. Nothing personal, it is just business. *It is not what we want,* but if Trump likes isolationism then we should consider alternatives.
namelesshobo1 on
iIt has been time for this for a long time. There has been a growing EU US split ever since the Iraq War. Republican presidents tend to exaggerate this rift and democratic presidents tend to down play it, but the trend is clear.
The EU needs strategic autonomy in foreign policy. We cannot blindly attack ourselves to the USA. The Iraq War was a disaster that did not serve EU interest. Israel does not serve EU interest. EU and US have different goals in Ukraine (primarily, the US wants Ukraine and Russia to fight for as long as possible without one ever winning, EU should want a free and safe Ukraine as soon as possible). EU needs to start eliminating national foreign relations offices and cede these roles to the union, we need a European army, we need a European nuclear force, we need a European space agency (already happening), and we need to start making our presence felt in the arctic.
Linny911 on
It’ll be cheaper and better off to pump up defense spending and make economic adjustments with the US. Whatever Trump plans to do economically is nothing compared to what the CCP has already been doing behind the scenes for decades.
PimplePopper6969 on
Us Americans consider many European nations to be leeches. They rely on us for everything and skirt their own sovereignty. Then when times get tough they come running to Daddy for more cash. I think it’s time Daddy America tells little Billy Europe it’s time to learn to wipe his own ass after a poo poo.
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I think the EU can stop the Russians alone. Maybe we should get 2000 nukes outside of NATO. Also if the USA goes alone, then the EU should consider the Chinese alternative. Nothing personal, it is just business. *It is not what we want,* but if Trump likes isolationism then we should consider alternatives.
iIt has been time for this for a long time. There has been a growing EU US split ever since the Iraq War. Republican presidents tend to exaggerate this rift and democratic presidents tend to down play it, but the trend is clear.
The EU needs strategic autonomy in foreign policy. We cannot blindly attack ourselves to the USA. The Iraq War was a disaster that did not serve EU interest. Israel does not serve EU interest. EU and US have different goals in Ukraine (primarily, the US wants Ukraine and Russia to fight for as long as possible without one ever winning, EU should want a free and safe Ukraine as soon as possible). EU needs to start eliminating national foreign relations offices and cede these roles to the union, we need a European army, we need a European nuclear force, we need a European space agency (already happening), and we need to start making our presence felt in the arctic.
It’ll be cheaper and better off to pump up defense spending and make economic adjustments with the US. Whatever Trump plans to do economically is nothing compared to what the CCP has already been doing behind the scenes for decades.
Us Americans consider many European nations to be leeches. They rely on us for everything and skirt their own sovereignty. Then when times get tough they come running to Daddy for more cash. I think it’s time Daddy America tells little Billy Europe it’s time to learn to wipe his own ass after a poo poo.