Erklärung des Lemkin Institute über „die anhaltende Denialistische Rhetorik des armenischen Premierministers Nikol Pashinyan“

    https://www.lemkininstitute.com/statements-new-page/statement-on-the-continued-denialist-rhetoric-of-armenian-prime-minister-nikol-pashinyan

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    1. Material_Alps881 on

      Cool cool but the same institute is responsible for watering down the definition of genocide to the point its basically meaningless

    2. Nikol is definitely making unforced errors in trafficking in some of the talking points that Erdogan (and his predecessors) used to explain away the Armenian Genocide… That said, Lemkin Institute is now the umpteenth time straight up repeating ANCA/Dashnak foaming-at-the-mouth anti Nikol rhetoric. If Lemkin Institute is not a front for Dashnaks, it sure as hell appears captured.

    3. Because Pashinyan has an idiotic way of speaking, he can say certain things and then after a week of public discussions, we figure out what he meant. This also helps him get out of unpopular statements made by him, by saying (or having his circle say it), I didn’t mean that, I meant this other thing.

      His statements in Switzerland about why in 1936 Genocide agenda wasn’t on the table, was a clear jab at Russia/USSR. Which indeed used the issue of Genocide recognition to play games with Turkey (to be fair a lot of others did the same, US included, heck UK is still doing it).

      With that said, it’s clear that Pashinyan is signaling to Erdoghan that he is willing to do what Turkey offered as preconditions for border opening back in the Soccer Diplomacy days, that is to create a historian study group to investigate what happened. The act in itself is an insult to the memory of our ancestors, because everyone knows, Erdoghan included, there is nothing to investigate, it’s a fact, but Pashinyan is either calling Erdoghan’s bluff (see I am willing to do this, are you willing to open the borders), or he being a ex Levonakan, thinks that appeasing wolves will get us leave and quiet.

      There is another, more reliable way of getting Turkey to play ball (which worked in the 90’s with the grain deliveries), that is to get the US and the EU to constantly show Erdoghan his place. In order to do that, we need to become a closer Western ally which we are lagging, because Pashinyan is a regionalist at heart and because his oligarch buddies like Grzo, and Saint of Oligarchs Mher is his vice PM.

    4. He wasn’t denying the genocide but he’s nevertheless a retard for trying to make this conversation happen. It’s yet another of his unforgivable actions and they’re mounting at this point. I can not believe there are still people that will stand behind this idiot without seeing how fucked up a lot of his actions are.

    5. Here’s what he said.

      >“We must understand what happened and why it happened, how we perceived it and through whom we perceived [it].” He then added, “How is it that in 1939 there was no Armenian genocide [recognition] agenda and how is it that in 1950 the Armenian genocide agenda emerged?”

      Here’s what I perceive from it.

      Raphael Lemkin coined the word genocide in 1943/4 and genocide became understood with valid description of Armenians, even Lemkin himself said it. So his date of why not in 1939 doesn’t actually make much sense.

      I don’t know what he means about 1950 specifically, but I know that in 1965 demonstrations took place in Soviet Armenia with the demand that soviet union officially recognizes it, which it did.

      [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1965_Yerevan_demonstrations](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1965_Yerevan_demonstrations)

      This raises the question, why then? was it something the soviet government did on purpose? instilled the idea of genocide recognition? If we take the date Pashinyan said, which is 1950 when the genocide agenda emerged, and consider what is said about Turkey joining NATO, that Russia was putting land claims as far as I remember under certain pretext, which supposedly caused Turkey to join NATO in 1952, one does wonder, was the soviet union really behind this push for Armenians? not because they wanted our recognition, but as a pretext for soviet union to claim lands. It is certainly a plausible theory.

      If this is his question, then I do support to dig deeper into it, absolutely.

      However, if he wants to use this to minimize the value of recognition of the Armenian genocide, or even discredit it or shift blame, for the sake of a peace deal, even though objectively it might give Armenia more good in development as a country with open borders, it’s not something many people, including me, would accept, and for the first time in my life I would say, he needs to resign. He tends to do this, he makes slight impressions and openings, then lets the elephant out after a while.

    6. It has become too mentally exhausting to try to figure out why Pashinyan gives our enemies ammo to use against us by opening his mouth.

      Just stop speaking your mind dammit… no one asked, literally no one.

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