Die westlichen Länder lehnten den Staat ab, der in den 1980er Jahren eine große Rolle in ihren Volkswirtschaften hatte und in der Ära der neoliberalen Ökonomie eingeleitet wurde, in der alles auf dem Markt überlassen würde. Diese Logik diktierte, dass es billiger war, Dinge zu produzieren, bei denen die Löhne niedrig waren, und im Westen verschwanden zig Millionen von Fertigungsjobs.
Schneller Vorlauf in die 2020er Jahre und die Fehler in der neoliberalen Wirtschaft scheinen allzu offensichtlich zu sein. Die Deindustrialisierung hat die westliche Arbeiterklasse schlechter gemacht als die Generation ihrer Eltern. Aber ein weiterer Fehler ist immer deutlicher geworden – indem wir China zur weltweiten Herstellung von Supermacht machen, scheinen wir sie auch zur technologischen Supermacht der Welt zu machen.
Darüber hinaus scheint dies zu sein Einrichten eines selbstverstärkenden tugendhaften Zyklus. EVs, Batterien, Lidar, Drohnen, Robotik, Smartphones, KI – China scheint in ihnen alle zu werden, und die Entwicklung eines jeden verstärkt die Entwicklung aller anderen.
Wo lässt dies das westliche Wirtschaftsmodell – ist es an der Zeit, dass es Chinas Kapitalismusstil kopiert?
Is China's rise to global technological dominance because its version of capitalism is better than the West's? If so, what can Western countries do to compete?
byu/lughnasadh inFuturology
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China have a huge and incredibly cheap workforce.
China actively encourages corporate espionage to steal Western companies IPs.
Please explain how either of these are linked to capitalism
China’s style of capitalism hinges on the ability to steal/copy anything manufactured there by outside companies, unlimited governmental power to tell the people „we are doing this and you can’t say no“, and even further abuse of the workers in a capitalist system.
China can and will always „catch up“ especially at ridiculous speeds, but their level of being „the future“ is suspect in my opinion.
China doesnt flip flop their policies every 4 years.
They work harder. They are more incentivized, and they have a larger workforce. Chinese imitating the west is old news, they are the innovators now.
No. They graduate millions more STEM than we do per year.
Since when is „communism“ a „version of capitalism“?
Something tells me OP’s post history is going to be chock full of CCP propaganda.
There can be some advantage to a capitalist leaning centralized authoritarian government. The CCP has essentially made a deal with its people saying we will lift you out of poverty if you forgo political and many other freedoms. It may work for a while and obviously has. At some point the people are gonna start asking for freedoms that the CCP is not willing to provide. This may happen if the economy crashes significantly or basically if the CCP can no longer keep it side of the bargain or the people start pushing for freedoms.
They invested heavily into education. Something a few western countries have forgotten out. The value of the country is in the people. Not the corporations.
They do have a demographic crisis very soon though thanks to their one child policy. I think the rise of China is good for the west, a common enemy so we can get our shit together. Without one, we’re falling apart. We don’t care about our middle class + we either let corporations run the country (US+JP+SK) or we regulate everything to death (EU). Maybe we are not designed to live without competition..
Yes, market socialism is better than capitalism. Yes, the west should shift to market socialism. It won’t happen though, because rich people would loose some of their money.
Not everything is capitalism vs communism.
Western countries do not have a monopoly on brilliant ideas for technological and sociopolitical advancement.
I’ve come across many people in other parts of the world that have for more brilliant and innovative minds and designs in the area of technology, governance, political theory and more; that not even our best entrepreneurs and scholars come anything close to.
The only thing that has inured to the benefit of the West is availability of capital (without necessarily an argument of capitalism) as well as preexisting geopolitical and economic advantages, as the rich get richer and the poor poorer, within the global community.
China has done well to, yes, through the state, make bold moves to capitalise on its advantages and it’s determination not to be left behind
But declining standards in the West are not caused by China’s rise but by it’s own failures.
Ignorant and obnoxious about it’s sense of superiority, the West has continued to decline in certain areas and will continue to decline due to a delusion that the West is naturally meant to be the best.
If other countries has a fraction of the opportunities here, I guarantee you, Western markets got nothing. I’ve seen people in other parts of the world just show unmatched brilliance when it comes to education, engineering capabilities, software design, social media platform design (better than Facebook or anything around), and general scholarship.
Take Facebook for instance. Through it’s entire life all Zuckerberg has done is steal others ideas. He has no innovation.
Others innovate. The only advantages we have had is resources and other economic opportunities (such as IMMIGRATION and pooling of minds and MARKET here!) and yet we continue to lose sight of those on account of some „manifest destiny“
I don’t know, my parents and teachers never taught me global dominance as a main subject or agenda for my up bringing. Fill your boots
They were playing chess while we were playing checkers.
China is beating us because they do 50-year plans and we change our entire government every 2-4 years. In the 80’s they started to pile sand in the middle of the South China Sea. The Captain of my destroyer laughed at the waste of time. It was insane that they thought they could build an island. He was right, they built 3.
The joke in intelligence communities since the 90s about how far China is behind Darpa. Answer: 12 hour (said in racist Chinese dialect).
So ask yourself, if China has been reading our email since the 90s, why do we think we even know how far ahead they are?
Not sure we should follow in China’s foot steps