Die USA beschränken den Zugang der Schweiz zu AI -Chips | Die Schweiz wird von den USA aus den alliierten Ländern für unbegrenzten Zugang zu Chips ausgeschlossen, die für künstliche Intelligenz erforderlich sind.
https://www.srf.ch/news/dialog/kuenstliche-intelligenz-usa-schraenken-zugang-der-schweiz-zu-ki-chips-ein
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Translation:
>The USA recently changed the rules for the export of products related to artificial intelligence. Only countries that are considered allies are now allowed to access these computer chips. And Switzerland is not one of them.
>Only 18 countries are considered trustworthy allies in the USA, including France, Germany and Japan. According to Washington, these nations are worthy of unrestricted access to these very powerful computer chips, which are manufactured exclusively by US companies.
>This new regulation will come into force in four months. After that, Switzerland will still be able to import these chips, but will be subject to a limited quota in the coming years.
>__Switzerland’s dependence__
>Experts are already expressing their concerns, as these chips are used extensively in academic research as well as by many companies.
>These technologies are already present in many areas and will be omnipresent in the coming months to years, says Olga Baranova on RTS television in western Switzerland. She is Secretary General of the CH++ association, a citizens‘ lobby to strengthen scientific and technological expertise in politics.
>Baranova also points out that the USA largely dominates the market, which makes alternative supply difficult.
>__Blocking rival countries__
>It is not entirely clear why Switzerland is not one of the allied countries. The official US Department of Commerce document lists those countries that they trust to protect their technology and have no restrictions. However, no individual declarations were made regarding the excluded countries.
>Nevertheless, it seems clear that the main aim of this regulation is to prevent rival countries, particularly China, from gaining access to this cutting-edge technology. The US is not only trying to curb exports, but also to prevent Chinese companies from circumventing the restrictions by setting up subsidiaries abroad.
>Olga Baranova is therefore calling on the Swiss government to show the US that Switzerland fulfils the criteria to be considered a trustworthy partner. „It is clearly up to Switzerland to demonstrate its reliability and provide the US with additional guarantees.“
>The State Secretariat for Economic Affairs (Seco) is currently analysing the document and its potential impact on companies and research institutions. According to Seco, discussions have already begun with the US authorities to ensure that this regulation does not hinder research or innovation in Switzerland.
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>>__Guy Parmelin wants to „overturn“ US decision__
>>Economics Minister Guy Parmelin criticises the US decision to the NZZ am Sonntag and confirms that initial contacts have taken place with the US on the subject. Attempts are being made to overturn the US decision. „My goal is for Switzerland to be included in the group of countries with unrestricted access to modern computer chips from the USA,“ Parmelin told the newspaper. Otherwise it would be complicated. Switzerland could then continue to receive modern computer chips, but imports would be limited.
>Seco also points out that Switzerland is home to US companies and their research centres that make heavy use of these chips, such as Google.
It’s stupid because China is already proving they can build LLMs as good or better. The idea – which you see bandied around in so many related threads – that they won’t figure out hardware as well is frankly absurd.
Sorry but what specific chips for AI are they talking about? GPUs for training or NPUs for running AI?
TBH I am not really too worried about the AI bubble affecting Switzerland. And preventing people from falling for it is not the worst idea.
Time to ban US citizens from studying/working at ETH. /s
I would like to hear the thoughts on this from the very well informed right wingers who were lecturing us about how Trump being elected would be good for Switzerland and we’d totally have a free trade agreement with them soon, based on the fact that Ueli Maurer went to the White House once.
So back to herding cows again
Sounds like we should reintroduce banking secrecy for US citizens
„Necessity is the Mother of Invention“
China is using this quote very seriously and it seems other countries who are at least capable should follow that otherwise in future China will be the USA for them.
Ight, lets freeze some bank accounts
Time to open an NVDA GPU shop just cross the border /s
Is this the price of neutrality?
That’s funny given Switzerland being the diplomatic agent between the USA and Iran.
The US clearly only trusts obvious subsidiaries to their empire.
I vastly prefer not getting unlimited chips vs being a subordinate to the USA.
Sounds like re opening trade with russia
You know who actually cannot be considered a trustworthy ally anymore?
How about USA declaring Taiwan and South Korea not trustworthy and limiting business? Wonder how that’d turn out re AI.
I need those chips to play GTA 6 in a few months tho
Let’s hope that we can learn something from this.
Ok but how many of these chips are really needed? Does Switzerland really need unlimited chips to buy? Limited US supply + the rest of the world doesn’t seems like is going to be a massive economic crisis or back to middle age. Also things change so fast…
So they’re just making us pay because they can.. alright.
What I’ve read in the original statement (https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2025/01/15/2025-00636/framework-for-artificial-intelligence-diffusion) and not on SRF is that there 3 classes. Basically „trusted“ „not trusted“ and „not allowed“. Israel is in the same group as we are, so I’d be surprised if this means we won’t get any.. it won’t just be as easy..
And since it was Biden’s Administration that introduced, we’ll see how this plays out..