Imo most AI stuff is still pretty rudimentary. Most “products” you see are pretty much college research projects scraped off GitHub and barely modified. The stuff coming out of china is no exception.
berderkalfheim on
There are political tools available. The simplest is to declare Chinese models a threat to national security and ban its use by any American, American company, or American academic institution. It might be trickier than TikTok ban, since it would be hard to ban its products, but given that LLAMA 3 is free, people would have little incentive to use a Chinese model over an American one if the Chinese one requires a VPN to access (hence it would be slower). Its training may take more resources but that’s a cost that Meta can digest.
The second is to continue tackling it in the hardware side. The ceiling of Chinese models will forever be lower if they have limited access to the best GPU. Nvidia is an American company. China cannot produce GPUs.
Lastly, even if they do catch up, it’s not the end of the world. During the Cold War, the Soviet Union was technologically more advance than the US in multiple areas, especially heavy industries, and it didn’t stop the US from being more superior and winning the Cold War in the end.
bentaldbentald on
Anybody else desperately wishing someone would step up to lead a global approach to AI?
This ‘AI arms race’ between the US and China is really scary. What does winning look like? What does losing look like?
vtuber_fan11 on
Grim.
Wambo74 on
But I’ve been seeing reporting that said China has no capability at all for building the smallest state of the art chips necessary for AI technology. And no one will sell them to them. And building the stand-alone capability in-house is way more difficult than people would think. That’s got to be an impediment.
SilentJoe1986 on
This is why I’m polite to my AI devices. Someday it will take over and I’m hoping it’ll remember those that were kind to it. I would rather be a pet and not compost.
Right-Influence617 on
We’re both trying to outpace each other with AI. But the US is using it to innovate, improve quality of life, and protect freedoms. Whereas, China is using AI to keep its people in check, control info, and keep a tight grip on everything, especially its military. The bigger issue is China’s looking to spread that kind of control globally, while the US is trying to set a standard that’s about freedom and openness.
It’s a battle of values.
….not just tech.
Shionkron on
He’s ending the Infrastructure bill. Also ending offshore wind farms and tax credits to EV purchases. Trump refuses to admit that this will make American suffer in technological advancements compared to to other nations in what will be the next industry of the future. Leaving America behind!!!!
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Imo most AI stuff is still pretty rudimentary. Most “products” you see are pretty much college research projects scraped off GitHub and barely modified. The stuff coming out of china is no exception.
There are political tools available. The simplest is to declare Chinese models a threat to national security and ban its use by any American, American company, or American academic institution. It might be trickier than TikTok ban, since it would be hard to ban its products, but given that LLAMA 3 is free, people would have little incentive to use a Chinese model over an American one if the Chinese one requires a VPN to access (hence it would be slower). Its training may take more resources but that’s a cost that Meta can digest.
The second is to continue tackling it in the hardware side. The ceiling of Chinese models will forever be lower if they have limited access to the best GPU. Nvidia is an American company. China cannot produce GPUs.
Lastly, even if they do catch up, it’s not the end of the world. During the Cold War, the Soviet Union was technologically more advance than the US in multiple areas, especially heavy industries, and it didn’t stop the US from being more superior and winning the Cold War in the end.
Anybody else desperately wishing someone would step up to lead a global approach to AI?
This ‘AI arms race’ between the US and China is really scary. What does winning look like? What does losing look like?
Grim.
But I’ve been seeing reporting that said China has no capability at all for building the smallest state of the art chips necessary for AI technology. And no one will sell them to them. And building the stand-alone capability in-house is way more difficult than people would think. That’s got to be an impediment.
This is why I’m polite to my AI devices. Someday it will take over and I’m hoping it’ll remember those that were kind to it. I would rather be a pet and not compost.
We’re both trying to outpace each other with AI. But the US is using it to innovate, improve quality of life, and protect freedoms. Whereas, China is using AI to keep its people in check, control info, and keep a tight grip on everything, especially its military. The bigger issue is China’s looking to spread that kind of control globally, while the US is trying to set a standard that’s about freedom and openness.
It’s a battle of values.
….not just tech.
He’s ending the Infrastructure bill. Also ending offshore wind farms and tax credits to EV purchases. Trump refuses to admit that this will make American suffer in technological advancements compared to to other nations in what will be the next industry of the future. Leaving America behind!!!!