Good thing that the KVR is ready and able to process all of these newcomers with no issue!
Indian_Pale_Ale on
Maybe a few things such as decent housing would be a good first step as well
Agreeable-Opposite26 on
I sense bullshit
SeaworthinessDue8650 on
Too bad that the ones who want to come don’t have the skillset needed here and the workers who do have the skills are not interested in moving here.
Wooden-Gas3849 on
It’s Canada all over again. Bringing in people to work is good but the housing demand and crippling healthcare system just can’t keep up.
mtf96zn on
I’m a virtualization specialist and trying to come to Germany but it is always about German language „Kenntnisse“ have not been able to find a interview … because they need it idk I just want to talk to machines and softwares basically 🤣 it would be great to nail a job with English but it seems nearly impossible …I hope I could be able to save my self from my own country … It is collapsing.
suspicious_racoon on
But please stop confusing refugees and immigrants. This tends to be the norm these days…
(Both groups need completely different handling)
ib_examiner_228 on
Yeah but the workers we actually need make only a bit more than Mindestlohn, still get a big chunk of their income for social contributions, all that while housing prices are so high that it just becomes way too unattractive.
And here I am, unable to find a job, went to do a masters degree to get at least an internship, but even for that they want me to have „first experience“, because IT is already full of migrants/students who came for the good money.
No_Mail7640 on
Controlled immigration of skilled workers.
Not Jihadist who want to create a caliphate in Hamburg.
And if you send everyone home who is depleting our social systems, you don’t need as many tax payers to keep those systems running.
NazimCinko on
Meanwhile Consul of Germany anywhere: We rejected your request cuz we thought that you wont turnback your homeland.
Wtf dude i want going to work not schengen ?
JVNHIM on
Germany is insanely unattractive for skilled migrants lmao
Individual_Leg_522 on
288,000 potential depressions per year.
Jafri2 on
Don’t worry, I will save y’all.
/s
stopthecope on
Has the German government made any attempts to raise the birth rates over the last 20 years?
GermanTurtleneck on
Lol nein
OYTIS_OYTINWN on
I am an immigrant myself, and consider myself pretty left-leaning and pro-immigration, but also I think publishing such claims while more and more companies in Germany perform and prepare for layoffs is pretty arrogant. Also, housing.
punkonater on
Maybe if housing, pay and other cost of living issues were improved enough then more people already here would reproduce… Just sayin.
No-Choice3519 on
No thanks, look at Canada and their woes with housing.
fictionfred on
Immigration is not the only required solution, but since we’re on the topic:
1. “Immigration is unsustainable”
A shrinking population won’t pay pensions, but migrants will.
2. “Migrants can’t integrate”
Integration isn’t a problem when everyone has meaningful work.
3. “Public services will be strained”
Without migrants, there will be no one left to run public services.
4. “Social resistance is growing”
People resist migration until they see who fixes their systems.
5. “Migrants lack the right skills”
Skilled jobs are empty, and people are waiting to fill them.
6. “Economic downturns make migration risky”
Labor shortages don’t take time off for economic recessions.
7. “Immigration changes culture”
Germany is at its strongest every time it evolves.
8. “We should rely on our own population”
We need everyone to succeed, including people not born here.
PomPomGrenade on
They won’t stay long as they will be preyed upon by criminal assholes posing as employers.
Mindless_Tie_3244 on
First of Germany needs to distinguish skilled migrants from refugees and make a department who handle skilled and highly skilled migrants better! Highly skilled People who pay taxes (often more than Germans themselves), are treated like shit in Germany! Treated as shit and then to add to that woes are foreign department queues, and low salaries compared to US doesn’t makes it every attractive anyways! I think lot needs to change at ground level like immigration system here for highly skilled people, housing, healthcare (which is crap even when you pay the highest)!
VirtuesTroll on
1/3 of the international students return back to their country/or other countries, because they could not find a Job in Germany. That’s the current reality.
[edited]
I got it wrong, only one-third get employment opportunity, 2/3 return.
EffortApprehensive48 on
Sign me up man. I am skilled and still finding it hard to land an interview
Prometheus-is-vulcan on
There are entire school classes of students where not a single parent has a job.
Now we are talking about importing forain workers. A huge part of them will need extensive language lessons, a significant part has to earn additional qualifications in order work here.
And we shouldn’t act like the costs of training/educating those unemployed (+the money they currently receive) is more and the costs of recruiting, relocating, housing and educating those forain workers.
Also, some of them would come to make a lot of money in a short amount of time, which doesn’twork with minimum wage and high costs of living. Others would like to stay and need to be integrated.
rueckhand on
So a decently large city of migrants each year. Do we build enough flats for that? More services, kindergarten, schools, hospitals etc? No? Awesome
Big_Impact_9194 on
Bund id website is down for several days. This is how they’re encouraging people.
123ditto on
My geography teacher said this 15 years ago.
Future-Medicine-9163 on
Needs but doesn’t want.
Just read the incident yesterday here about how the mayor and the director of Ausländerbehorde have a policy of being hostile to skilled migrants and create hurdles in visa process, because they do not want foreigners in their city.
freshmasterstyle on
Dumb ass post by op
We don’t need immigrants or refugees. We have too many people here and to dew jobs. Just pay people normal wages instead of creating a cheap slave force from immigrants
heyyolarma43 on
No jobs bro.
blueboat4904 on
If they start paying better salaries then it would help.
Then_Appearance8464 on
Make it two months not two years for me to get my medical license then
theamazingdd on
migrants who are expected to arrive with C1 german already in order to get a gastronomy job? 🤣
liridonra on
Or in other words, Germany is FUCKED! 🙂
Main_Bank_7240 on
I call Bullshit
poedy78 on
Bertelsmann Stiftung 🙂
They’ve been crying for years that there’s a shortage in labor.
I’d argue that the problem are too low wages, too much bureaucracy.
The only flagrant thing pesting everyone, is the shortage in skilled politicians.
Cornymakesmehorny on
Well if VW, Bosch, Tyssen Krupp, … keep killing jobs, then we don’t, no
good-prince on
Unpopular idea. Just raise salaries and locals will work on that positions
Impressive_Yoghurt on
My sister was offered a position in Germany. Even with the 67% decrease in cost of living it would be, the salary discrepancy was so much she couldn’t justify accepting the position. Anecdotal but interesting nonetheless.
Upbeat-Cold-3486 on
Maybe let the millions of ppl that are already here start working and not making social money as high as the minimum wage jobs so it’s not attractive to work if your having a poor job
Kraehennebel on
Yeah, short term – or just more children.
PotentialSalty730 on
Sometimes it makes you wonder who is this Economy fella and why does he want these things.
Nobody_wuz_here on
Unpopular opinion, but perhaps Germany should open a pathway to grant citizenship to younger people whose ancestors emigrated before 1914.
People with German ancestry might not be able to fully integrate within the course of lifetime, but their children and grandchildren could be able to seamlessly integrate without any form of discrimination.
That helps to maintain a stable homogeneity for the foreseeable future.
blueererer on
Need 288000 migrants(slaves) who will do shitty works for shitty pay and still forfeit 40% on tax to support retired old Germans.
germanadapter on
Not necessarily. We just need Germans to not move abroad. But rather than fixing what makes Germany undesirable to its own citizens, the government wants foreigners to come and patch the holes in our broken system.
happyvoxod on
Or may be offer the jobs to the people already here matching the requirements?
0mennem0 on
Germany will soon be at war with Russia. I would never immigrate at this time. All the big companies are laying people off. There is hardly any housing in the cities. It is not attractive to immigrate without contacts. Germans do not rent to foreigners either.
warrior_of_light998 on
I’m always torn between being one day just a tourist visiting many Länder or really moving there to try the job offers in my field. As a European myself there wouldn’t be cultural shocks but I don’t know if it’s worth it, I don’t want to seem the „foreigner“ in every situation.
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Good thing that the KVR is ready and able to process all of these newcomers with no issue!
Maybe a few things such as decent housing would be a good first step as well
I sense bullshit
Too bad that the ones who want to come don’t have the skillset needed here and the workers who do have the skills are not interested in moving here.
It’s Canada all over again. Bringing in people to work is good but the housing demand and crippling healthcare system just can’t keep up.
I’m a virtualization specialist and trying to come to Germany but it is always about German language „Kenntnisse“ have not been able to find a interview … because they need it idk I just want to talk to machines and softwares basically 🤣 it would be great to nail a job with English but it seems nearly impossible …I hope I could be able to save my self from my own country … It is collapsing.
But please stop confusing refugees and immigrants. This tends to be the norm these days…
(Both groups need completely different handling)
Yeah but the workers we actually need make only a bit more than Mindestlohn, still get a big chunk of their income for social contributions, all that while housing prices are so high that it just becomes way too unattractive.
And here I am, unable to find a job, went to do a masters degree to get at least an internship, but even for that they want me to have „first experience“, because IT is already full of migrants/students who came for the good money.
Controlled immigration of skilled workers.
Not Jihadist who want to create a caliphate in Hamburg.
And if you send everyone home who is depleting our social systems, you don’t need as many tax payers to keep those systems running.
Meanwhile Consul of Germany anywhere: We rejected your request cuz we thought that you wont turnback your homeland.
Wtf dude i want going to work not schengen ?
Germany is insanely unattractive for skilled migrants lmao
288,000 potential depressions per year.
Don’t worry, I will save y’all.
/s
Has the German government made any attempts to raise the birth rates over the last 20 years?
Lol nein
I am an immigrant myself, and consider myself pretty left-leaning and pro-immigration, but also I think publishing such claims while more and more companies in Germany perform and prepare for layoffs is pretty arrogant. Also, housing.
Maybe if housing, pay and other cost of living issues were improved enough then more people already here would reproduce… Just sayin.
No thanks, look at Canada and their woes with housing.
Immigration is not the only required solution, but since we’re on the topic:
1. “Immigration is unsustainable”
A shrinking population won’t pay pensions, but migrants will.
2. “Migrants can’t integrate”
Integration isn’t a problem when everyone has meaningful work.
3. “Public services will be strained”
Without migrants, there will be no one left to run public services.
4. “Social resistance is growing”
People resist migration until they see who fixes their systems.
5. “Migrants lack the right skills”
Skilled jobs are empty, and people are waiting to fill them.
6. “Economic downturns make migration risky”
Labor shortages don’t take time off for economic recessions.
7. “Immigration changes culture”
Germany is at its strongest every time it evolves.
8. “We should rely on our own population”
We need everyone to succeed, including people not born here.
They won’t stay long as they will be preyed upon by criminal assholes posing as employers.
First of Germany needs to distinguish skilled migrants from refugees and make a department who handle skilled and highly skilled migrants better! Highly skilled People who pay taxes (often more than Germans themselves), are treated like shit in Germany! Treated as shit and then to add to that woes are foreign department queues, and low salaries compared to US doesn’t makes it every attractive anyways! I think lot needs to change at ground level like immigration system here for highly skilled people, housing, healthcare (which is crap even when you pay the highest)!
1/3 of the international students return back to their country/or other countries, because they could not find a Job in Germany. That’s the current reality.
[edited]
I got it wrong, only one-third get employment opportunity, 2/3 return.
Sign me up man. I am skilled and still finding it hard to land an interview
There are entire school classes of students where not a single parent has a job.
Now we are talking about importing forain workers. A huge part of them will need extensive language lessons, a significant part has to earn additional qualifications in order work here.
And we shouldn’t act like the costs of training/educating those unemployed (+the money they currently receive) is more and the costs of recruiting, relocating, housing and educating those forain workers.
Also, some of them would come to make a lot of money in a short amount of time, which doesn’twork with minimum wage and high costs of living. Others would like to stay and need to be integrated.
So a decently large city of migrants each year. Do we build enough flats for that? More services, kindergarten, schools, hospitals etc? No? Awesome
Bund id website is down for several days. This is how they’re encouraging people.
My geography teacher said this 15 years ago.
Needs but doesn’t want.
Just read the incident yesterday here about how the mayor and the director of Ausländerbehorde have a policy of being hostile to skilled migrants and create hurdles in visa process, because they do not want foreigners in their city.
Dumb ass post by op
We don’t need immigrants or refugees. We have too many people here and to dew jobs. Just pay people normal wages instead of creating a cheap slave force from immigrants
No jobs bro.
If they start paying better salaries then it would help.
Make it two months not two years for me to get my medical license then
migrants who are expected to arrive with C1 german already in order to get a gastronomy job? 🤣
Or in other words, Germany is FUCKED! 🙂
I call Bullshit
Bertelsmann Stiftung 🙂
They’ve been crying for years that there’s a shortage in labor.
I’d argue that the problem are too low wages, too much bureaucracy.
The only flagrant thing pesting everyone, is the shortage in skilled politicians.
Well if VW, Bosch, Tyssen Krupp, … keep killing jobs, then we don’t, no
Unpopular idea. Just raise salaries and locals will work on that positions
My sister was offered a position in Germany. Even with the 67% decrease in cost of living it would be, the salary discrepancy was so much she couldn’t justify accepting the position. Anecdotal but interesting nonetheless.
Maybe let the millions of ppl that are already here start working and not making social money as high as the minimum wage jobs so it’s not attractive to work if your having a poor job
Yeah, short term – or just more children.
Sometimes it makes you wonder who is this Economy fella and why does he want these things.
Unpopular opinion, but perhaps Germany should open a pathway to grant citizenship to younger people whose ancestors emigrated before 1914.
People with German ancestry might not be able to fully integrate within the course of lifetime, but their children and grandchildren could be able to seamlessly integrate without any form of discrimination.
That helps to maintain a stable homogeneity for the foreseeable future.
Need 288000 migrants(slaves) who will do shitty works for shitty pay and still forfeit 40% on tax to support retired old Germans.
Not necessarily. We just need Germans to not move abroad. But rather than fixing what makes Germany undesirable to its own citizens, the government wants foreigners to come and patch the holes in our broken system.
Or may be offer the jobs to the people already here matching the requirements?
Germany will soon be at war with Russia. I would never immigrate at this time. All the big companies are laying people off. There is hardly any housing in the cities. It is not attractive to immigrate without contacts. Germans do not rent to foreigners either.
I’m always torn between being one day just a tourist visiting many Länder or really moving there to try the job offers in my field. As a European myself there wouldn’t be cultural shocks but I don’t know if it’s worth it, I don’t want to seem the „foreigner“ in every situation.