Ich war zum ersten Mal in Glendale, Kalifornien, und habe dieses Video aufgenommen. Es waren viele Armenier dort, und ich fragte mich: Würde es dem Land besser gehen, wenn all diese Menschen in Armenien leben würden?
Ich war zum ersten Mal in Glendale, Kalifornien, und habe dieses Video aufgenommen. Es waren viele Armenier dort, und ich fragte mich: Würde es dem Land besser gehen, wenn all diese Menschen in Armenien leben würden?
If a certain number of them repatriated every year, it would make Armenia a better country, because they are essentially mostly working adults, who have been educated with funds from other countries, who are potential taxpayers with their respective useful skills, etc.
However, having a large diaspora is good. There are issues with assimilation and other problems, but having people who can lobby on behalf of a nation and maintain connections with other countries and people is a benefit. They are also mostly beyond the reach of our geographically immediate enemies. We’d leverage that if we were cunning, but alas…
ShahVahan on
You’re assuming that all these people are from Armenia. Many are not and have never lived or had family in Armenia. Therefore they won’t go live there because it’s a foreign country. Why would you move from let’s say Lebanon or Russia to Armenia when you could come to the US and live much easier and wealthier.
Ideal-Hye on
I for sure can say it will make Glendale Better. I am sick and tired of these new immigrants. 90% of them are Con artists. I hate them.
Donuts4TW on
That’s great urban planning. A lot of US developers would’ve just built a normal mall or a big apartment complex lol. But they did so much more. They made it an experience.
BzhizhkMard on
Pretty much 70 to 80%+ of the people in the Americana at all times seem to be Armenian. Especially in this video.
The Armenian American museum is being built a block away too.
The answer is yes, they would be helping the country. The main thing that anchors them is their family members and family-centric life.
GlendaleFemboi on
It would but no one talks about it. No one says „hey so are you thinking about moving to Armenia?“ No one has relatives in Armenia, no one has clear pathways to a job in Armenia. The people who speak western Armenian don’t care to learn Eastern. You’d think people would at least talk about retiring there because it’s less expensive than America, but no one talks about that either. It’s just off the radar. It’s abstract and theoretical. It has to be publicized
People only talk about Armenia being poor, being corrupt, they need charity, they’re surrounded by enemies, it’s so unfortunate, it’s a ‚third world country‘, blah blah blah, all the stuff which makes people never want to live there.
Accomplished-Rice861 on
No it wouldn’t, there’s a short answer for you.
Prestigious-Hand-225 on
These people don’t have to live in Armenia to make it better. Just dedicating an extra 1% of their time/money/effort to Armenian causes would make a noticeable difference.
But they’re too busy getting into debt to park that AMG Benz outside their rented apartment or blowing $100k on a wedding.
BaronKevork on
It already looks like Yerevan
_nc_sketchy on
Armenian-American here (and currently in Yerevan for the first time). Why would you want to remove/weaken the strong bases of political support for Armenia?
You are better off figuring out how to remind the diaspora to give funds to Armenia proper so you can rebuild rather than do something that would weaken Armenian political influence abroad.
funkvay on
These are just my thoughts, so yeah, if you want to, you can disagree with me, maybe I’m wrong.
So, the reality isn’t so simple, and in fact, it’s highly unlikely to make the country better in any significant way.
First off, the Armenian diaspora is estimated to be around 7-8 million people, while Armenia itself has a population of just under 3 million. Now, imagine millions of people suddenly moving to a country with an economy that struggles to provide opportunities for the population it already has. Armenia’s GDP per capita is around $4,800, now let’s compare that to countries like the U.S., where it’s over $70,000. Even if a large chunk of Armenians abroad are financially successful, the infrastructure in Armenia simply cannot support that kind of sudden population growth.
Jobs? There aren’t enough. In 2023, the unemployment rate in Armenia was hovering around 15%. That’s already a tough situation for those living there. A sudden influx of people would only exacerbate that problem. You’d need major reforms in industry, technology, education, across the board to absorb that many newcomers into the economy. And there’s no reason to believe those reforms would happen fast enough to make a difference. In fact, without those changes, you’re more likely to see a rise in poverty levels, which would only contribute to the existing narrative of Armenia being poor and needing charity. Moreover, I don’t have any data, of course, but I assume that Armenians from LA are more often qualified people, which will automatically make the local specialists significantly weaker and less needed.
Then there’s the issue of skills mismatch. Armenians abroad work in industries that are either non-existent or underdeveloped in Armenia. Sure, industries could benefit from growth, but without the infrastructure and investment needed to support them, what would these people do? Move back just to face unemployment?
Also there’s a significant portion of the diaspora speaks Western Armenian, and there’s a divide in how they engage with Eastern Armenian culture. Many Armenians living abroad have integrated into their local communities and may not even feel a strong pull to return to a country they don’t have tangible ties to. It’s an abstract, theoretical idea, but when faced with the reality of moving to a small, developing nation with fewer opportunities and resources than they’re accustomed to, that enthusiasm dwindles.
Finally, there’s the political environment. Armenia has been plagued by corruption for years. Transparency International consistently ranks Armenia poorly on corruption perception, even with recent efforts to clean things up. The diaspora isn’t going to miraculously fix that. Moving back en masse doesn’t change the governance issues, the geopolitical pressures, or the systemic problems the country faces.
So, imho the answer is no, more Armenians in Armenia won’t save it. What’s needed are deep, structural changes in governance, the economy, and infrastructure. Until those are addressed, adding more people to the equation would only worsen existing problems rather than solve them.
This comment is just my thoughts and nothing more, if you disagree then you disagree and can share your thoughts about this. I didn’t try to offend in any way or present everything negatively.
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No.
If a certain number of them repatriated every year, it would make Armenia a better country, because they are essentially mostly working adults, who have been educated with funds from other countries, who are potential taxpayers with their respective useful skills, etc.
However, having a large diaspora is good. There are issues with assimilation and other problems, but having people who can lobby on behalf of a nation and maintain connections with other countries and people is a benefit. They are also mostly beyond the reach of our geographically immediate enemies. We’d leverage that if we were cunning, but alas…
You’re assuming that all these people are from Armenia. Many are not and have never lived or had family in Armenia. Therefore they won’t go live there because it’s a foreign country. Why would you move from let’s say Lebanon or Russia to Armenia when you could come to the US and live much easier and wealthier.
I for sure can say it will make Glendale Better. I am sick and tired of these new immigrants. 90% of them are Con artists. I hate them.
That’s great urban planning. A lot of US developers would’ve just built a normal mall or a big apartment complex lol. But they did so much more. They made it an experience.
Pretty much 70 to 80%+ of the people in the Americana at all times seem to be Armenian. Especially in this video.
The Armenian American museum is being built a block away too.
The answer is yes, they would be helping the country. The main thing that anchors them is their family members and family-centric life.
It would but no one talks about it. No one says „hey so are you thinking about moving to Armenia?“ No one has relatives in Armenia, no one has clear pathways to a job in Armenia. The people who speak western Armenian don’t care to learn Eastern. You’d think people would at least talk about retiring there because it’s less expensive than America, but no one talks about that either. It’s just off the radar. It’s abstract and theoretical. It has to be publicized
People only talk about Armenia being poor, being corrupt, they need charity, they’re surrounded by enemies, it’s so unfortunate, it’s a ‚third world country‘, blah blah blah, all the stuff which makes people never want to live there.
No it wouldn’t, there’s a short answer for you.
These people don’t have to live in Armenia to make it better. Just dedicating an extra 1% of their time/money/effort to Armenian causes would make a noticeable difference.
But they’re too busy getting into debt to park that AMG Benz outside their rented apartment or blowing $100k on a wedding.
It already looks like Yerevan
Armenian-American here (and currently in Yerevan for the first time). Why would you want to remove/weaken the strong bases of political support for Armenia?
You are better off figuring out how to remind the diaspora to give funds to Armenia proper so you can rebuild rather than do something that would weaken Armenian political influence abroad.
These are just my thoughts, so yeah, if you want to, you can disagree with me, maybe I’m wrong.
So, the reality isn’t so simple, and in fact, it’s highly unlikely to make the country better in any significant way.
First off, the Armenian diaspora is estimated to be around 7-8 million people, while Armenia itself has a population of just under 3 million. Now, imagine millions of people suddenly moving to a country with an economy that struggles to provide opportunities for the population it already has. Armenia’s GDP per capita is around $4,800, now let’s compare that to countries like the U.S., where it’s over $70,000. Even if a large chunk of Armenians abroad are financially successful, the infrastructure in Armenia simply cannot support that kind of sudden population growth.
Jobs? There aren’t enough. In 2023, the unemployment rate in Armenia was hovering around 15%. That’s already a tough situation for those living there. A sudden influx of people would only exacerbate that problem. You’d need major reforms in industry, technology, education, across the board to absorb that many newcomers into the economy. And there’s no reason to believe those reforms would happen fast enough to make a difference. In fact, without those changes, you’re more likely to see a rise in poverty levels, which would only contribute to the existing narrative of Armenia being poor and needing charity. Moreover, I don’t have any data, of course, but I assume that Armenians from LA are more often qualified people, which will automatically make the local specialists significantly weaker and less needed.
Then there’s the issue of skills mismatch. Armenians abroad work in industries that are either non-existent or underdeveloped in Armenia. Sure, industries could benefit from growth, but without the infrastructure and investment needed to support them, what would these people do? Move back just to face unemployment?
Also there’s a significant portion of the diaspora speaks Western Armenian, and there’s a divide in how they engage with Eastern Armenian culture. Many Armenians living abroad have integrated into their local communities and may not even feel a strong pull to return to a country they don’t have tangible ties to. It’s an abstract, theoretical idea, but when faced with the reality of moving to a small, developing nation with fewer opportunities and resources than they’re accustomed to, that enthusiasm dwindles.
Finally, there’s the political environment. Armenia has been plagued by corruption for years. Transparency International consistently ranks Armenia poorly on corruption perception, even with recent efforts to clean things up. The diaspora isn’t going to miraculously fix that. Moving back en masse doesn’t change the governance issues, the geopolitical pressures, or the systemic problems the country faces.
So, imho the answer is no, more Armenians in Armenia won’t save it. What’s needed are deep, structural changes in governance, the economy, and infrastructure. Until those are addressed, adding more people to the equation would only worsen existing problems rather than solve them.
This comment is just my thoughts and nothing more, if you disagree then you disagree and can share your thoughts about this. I didn’t try to offend in any way or present everything negatively.