Submission statement: How do you think advancements in AI will impact the job market? For tasks humans currently perform, how long might it take for AI to surpass human capabilities?
If Universal Basic Income (UBI) is a potential solution, how would it be implemented? What about nations that didn’t develop the AI technology? How can we prevent a significant concentration of wealth and the resulting inequality and societal issues?
xantub on
They will rehire them in a few months when they realize AI wasn’t all what they thought it would be.
yearofthesponge on
I hope the government makes filing automatic, bypassing these parasitic companies and making them obsolete.
djdefekt on
Ahh just what the world needs, hallucinating accountants getting you in trouble with the IRS. It’s cheaper I guess?
I wonder how they’re dealing with the fact that AI lies constantly about everything and they can’t seem to get it to stop.
biCamelKase on
I hope they pivot to not existing anymore. (I feel bad for the workers though.)
jaxnmarko on
Welcome to the Future of Jobs/not having jobs. Maybe we can get A.I. to make the tax codes simpler to begin with…. and close the loopholes for the rich that pay the Congresspeople that pass the laws written by…… well… I understand the most common work other than being Congresspeople was their being former lawyers, right? So either they suck at writing laws, or the carefully construct laws that provide loopholes for the rich to begin with. They can write ironclad contracts….. but not laws without loopholes?
The_WolfieOne on
Well that cements my never using their services again.
joe0400 on
This will probably backfire on TurboTax, and that will hopefully be a good thing.
picasso71 on
Good. Now they can’t say anything about either losing jobs when we want to move to a different tax system
SuperSecretSide on
This isn’t a new opinion but how tf doesn’t the government do taxes for you. In my country, tax is carefully calculated and taken from my wages every month, my payslip explains exactly what was deducted and why. At the end of the year I get a summary and if they have overtaxed me I automatically get my money back with the next pay check.
FreneticAmbivalence on
Some part of me wants to say that once all major functional operations are done by AI that the business become a public good and is no longer a for profit. You’ve done it. You’ve solved this problem. Now it’s time to go solve another.
thisfilmkid on
I fired TurboTaxes last year when they raised their prices. This company has lost so many customers that now it’s shifting to A.I to replace employees.
BabyNapsDaddyGames on
3 Months Later: Turbo Tax is filing for bankruptcy.
SunGregMoon on
It will be hilarious when they close down because AI causes millions of errors in tax returns. When AI can’t find an answer, it just makes something up… Thats what you want in your tax preparer.
haloweenek on
> For decades, Intuit has lobbied hard against any free online service for filing taxes, even going so far as to say it’s bad for Black people and misleading customers on who’s eligible for its own free version of TurboTax.
This is ridiculous. You need to pay money for filing taxes in US ?!?!?!
Undernown on
I can’t fathom what value AI can bring to tax filings. It’s a static problem with limited options and exact values, machine learning isn’t going to have any benefit there. Once the business logic is set up, any user should be able to fill it like a static form.
Those employees were there for people with tech illiteracy file their TurboTax through a phonecall etc. Or help people who were having trouble eith the form. You really think some techilliterate grandma is going to be able to communicate with an AI?!
Awkward_Pangolin3254 on
Maybe now they can pivot away from lobbying Congress to keep our dinosaur of a tax code alive, too
tedead on
I stopped using TurboTax years ago when I was just giving my damn refund to them just to use the software.
Suzzie_sunshine on
This is Intuit, and includes Quickbooks. They’re already a shitty greedy company that shits in its employees and customers, and this will only make it worse.
Silent-Escape6615 on
Can we all just ditch shitty fraudulent turbo tax?
Use the IRS free file if your taxes are simple. I found out last year that HR blocks website is SOOOO much easier than turbo tax. For the last two years, I’ve had to individually file state returns for myself and my wife because TurboTax couldn’t figure out how to file in two different states. I had to work with each states revenue cabinet to understand their tax forms. This year I had to file in three different states, but was able to do it all online with HR Block.
Intuit sucks. Make them pay for it.
Smack1984 on
It’s way worse. Intuit purchased T-sheets around 2019 from a Boise Idaho start up. T-sheets was THE place to work in Boise, with a great culture, amazing benefits and overall fantastic leadership. Over the next 5 years Intuit gutted it, forcing most of the leadership out and making everything incredibly corporate. Still a decent job in Boise, but the culture was gone.
Fast forward to Thursday. Intuit closes all of Boise in its lay off. This wasn’t just a 10% reduction across the board, this was a closure of 2 full office locations and laying off everyone who worked there.
Then they release a press statement saying that these were all “people who were failing to meet expectations” so that there share prices don’t drop. Now the 500 plus devs that worked there are struggling to find jobs because some recruiters see Intuit as their most recent area and think they are under performers.
Fuck Intuit.
DivineJustice on
Meanwhile, I’ll pivot to literally any other company.
Bazzil_T on
Any company that uses AI instead of people, should be charged an extra tax.
btvXtraCheesy on
That’s alright because I’ve pivoted away from using turbo tax.
Signiference on
Taking a class on AI and analytics for my doctorate right now. My professor unironically insists AI isn’t going to cost people their jobs. I keep saying “it shouldn’t cost people jobs in an ethically just world but we don’t live in that world. Corporations have shown time and time again they will choose the smallest amount of profit over the largest amount of people.” He thinks the market will just shift to what types of jobs exist, but workers will all still be necessary. Can’t wait to bring this article and quote up on Tuesday.
clown1970 on
I have used turbo tax for years. That will now end. I won’t use a company that fires employees so that management can receive even more excess compensation.
Mothergooseyoupussy1 on
Tubotax should be banned from lobbying congress to make our taxes more difficult to fill out. This is what congress was defending? For all these years?
fencerman on
Of course that’s just a lie, they’re actually firing lots of people since they know „direct file“ is going to cut deeply into their business.
But „pivoting to AI“ is the universal excuse for slashing workforce and still pretending investors should give you money.
DerProfessor on
yeah, that’s not gonna go well for them.
I use Turbotax, because it’s reliable. AI? Not reliable.
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Submission statement: How do you think advancements in AI will impact the job market? For tasks humans currently perform, how long might it take for AI to surpass human capabilities?
If Universal Basic Income (UBI) is a potential solution, how would it be implemented? What about nations that didn’t develop the AI technology? How can we prevent a significant concentration of wealth and the resulting inequality and societal issues?
They will rehire them in a few months when they realize AI wasn’t all what they thought it would be.
I hope the government makes filing automatic, bypassing these parasitic companies and making them obsolete.
Ahh just what the world needs, hallucinating accountants getting you in trouble with the IRS. It’s cheaper I guess?
The IRS offers its own FREE tax software.
https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/irs-free-file-is-now-available-for-the-2024-filing-season
I wonder how they’re dealing with the fact that AI lies constantly about everything and they can’t seem to get it to stop.
I hope they pivot to not existing anymore. (I feel bad for the workers though.)
Welcome to the Future of Jobs/not having jobs. Maybe we can get A.I. to make the tax codes simpler to begin with…. and close the loopholes for the rich that pay the Congresspeople that pass the laws written by…… well… I understand the most common work other than being Congresspeople was their being former lawyers, right? So either they suck at writing laws, or the carefully construct laws that provide loopholes for the rich to begin with. They can write ironclad contracts….. but not laws without loopholes?
Well that cements my never using their services again.
This will probably backfire on TurboTax, and that will hopefully be a good thing.
Good. Now they can’t say anything about either losing jobs when we want to move to a different tax system
This isn’t a new opinion but how tf doesn’t the government do taxes for you. In my country, tax is carefully calculated and taken from my wages every month, my payslip explains exactly what was deducted and why. At the end of the year I get a summary and if they have overtaxed me I automatically get my money back with the next pay check.
Some part of me wants to say that once all major functional operations are done by AI that the business become a public good and is no longer a for profit. You’ve done it. You’ve solved this problem. Now it’s time to go solve another.
I fired TurboTaxes last year when they raised their prices. This company has lost so many customers that now it’s shifting to A.I to replace employees.
3 Months Later: Turbo Tax is filing for bankruptcy.
It will be hilarious when they close down because AI causes millions of errors in tax returns. When AI can’t find an answer, it just makes something up… Thats what you want in your tax preparer.
> For decades, Intuit has lobbied hard against any free online service for filing taxes, even going so far as to say it’s bad for Black people and misleading customers on who’s eligible for its own free version of TurboTax.
This is ridiculous. You need to pay money for filing taxes in US ?!?!?!
I can’t fathom what value AI can bring to tax filings. It’s a static problem with limited options and exact values, machine learning isn’t going to have any benefit there. Once the business logic is set up, any user should be able to fill it like a static form.
Those employees were there for people with tech illiteracy file their TurboTax through a phonecall etc. Or help people who were having trouble eith the form. You really think some techilliterate grandma is going to be able to communicate with an AI?!
Maybe now they can pivot away from lobbying Congress to keep our dinosaur of a tax code alive, too
I stopped using TurboTax years ago when I was just giving my damn refund to them just to use the software.
This is Intuit, and includes Quickbooks. They’re already a shitty greedy company that shits in its employees and customers, and this will only make it worse.
Can we all just ditch shitty fraudulent turbo tax?
Use the IRS free file if your taxes are simple. I found out last year that HR blocks website is SOOOO much easier than turbo tax. For the last two years, I’ve had to individually file state returns for myself and my wife because TurboTax couldn’t figure out how to file in two different states. I had to work with each states revenue cabinet to understand their tax forms. This year I had to file in three different states, but was able to do it all online with HR Block.
Intuit sucks. Make them pay for it.
It’s way worse. Intuit purchased T-sheets around 2019 from a Boise Idaho start up. T-sheets was THE place to work in Boise, with a great culture, amazing benefits and overall fantastic leadership. Over the next 5 years Intuit gutted it, forcing most of the leadership out and making everything incredibly corporate. Still a decent job in Boise, but the culture was gone.
Fast forward to Thursday. Intuit closes all of Boise in its lay off. This wasn’t just a 10% reduction across the board, this was a closure of 2 full office locations and laying off everyone who worked there.
Then they release a press statement saying that these were all “people who were failing to meet expectations” so that there share prices don’t drop. Now the 500 plus devs that worked there are struggling to find jobs because some recruiters see Intuit as their most recent area and think they are under performers.
Fuck Intuit.
Meanwhile, I’ll pivot to literally any other company.
Any company that uses AI instead of people, should be charged an extra tax.
That’s alright because I’ve pivoted away from using turbo tax.
Taking a class on AI and analytics for my doctorate right now. My professor unironically insists AI isn’t going to cost people their jobs. I keep saying “it shouldn’t cost people jobs in an ethically just world but we don’t live in that world. Corporations have shown time and time again they will choose the smallest amount of profit over the largest amount of people.” He thinks the market will just shift to what types of jobs exist, but workers will all still be necessary. Can’t wait to bring this article and quote up on Tuesday.
I have used turbo tax for years. That will now end. I won’t use a company that fires employees so that management can receive even more excess compensation.
Tubotax should be banned from lobbying congress to make our taxes more difficult to fill out. This is what congress was defending? For all these years?
Of course that’s just a lie, they’re actually firing lots of people since they know „direct file“ is going to cut deeply into their business.
But „pivoting to AI“ is the universal excuse for slashing workforce and still pretending investors should give you money.
yeah, that’s not gonna go well for them.
I use Turbotax, because it’s reliable. AI? Not reliable.