„Last week, the 2024 World Artificial Intelligence Conference was held in Shanghai. This year’s theme highlighted global AI governance. As the world faces increasing deglobalisation risks and trade disputes, the conference foregrounds the necessity of global cooperation over AI safety. Attendees discussed key risks in AI such as bias, infringement on intellectual property rights and private data, military use and environmental damages, stressing that these issues should be addressed by the international community. Countries and regions that build frameworks to govern AI, as a new form of capital, with responsibility, equity and inclusion will set international standards. Chinese Premier Li Qiang stressed the need for broader global participation to promote AI’s safe deployment.“
…etc etc. Ok so this article sorta feels ChatGPT-written/propaganda-ey but it’s probably somewhat reflective of CCP views, which to me is interesting, since they often communicate their views indirectly through op-eds like this.
Since China is behind the US right now they have incentives to cooperate. The big questions are, in what areas does it make sense to cooperate? Most Americans probably don’t want China to catch up, but many would probably agree it’d be good to coordinate on things like autonomous weapons, or AI safety. Also, where doesn’t it make sense to cooperate?
internet_spy on
They want that sweet intelligent since opening cut them off
Mr-_-Awesome on
It is because they are not having any clue on what they are doing. Meaning they dont have the results they want to. In which turn they just want to steal everybodys elses intellecutal property
Demon_Gamer666 on
China will use AI to oppress it’s people. We should share nothing with them. They will simply lie about their intentions as usual.
Todd-The-Wraith on
They want to steal it. Same way China has reached many of its “advances” lately. Steal it from another country.
Bonus points when they don’t fully understand why something works and mess up implementation because of it
GeneralCrabby on
So many people against progress here, embittered by archaic notions of “nationalism” and “freedom” and “unopporession”
GlinnTantis on
Probably because they want access to more of NVIDIA’s tech
Abraham_Lincoln on
How much of China’s economy is based off exports? The long -term health of an economy is reliant on its extremely low wage labor to produce goods for overseas consumption. If robots and AI can replace the low-wage overseas workers then a big part of China’s economy goes with it. I’m guessing China is desperate to figure out plan B and slow AIs role.
modern12 on
So many AI experts here, with insights into Chinese AI dev programs. How can you even tell if they are ahead or behind? I dont think that this would be knowledge available to their citizens. China has autonomous cars, public invigilation based on ai recognition etc. Is it r/future or r/2000s_thinking?
Ok-Tension5241 on
Good God, full of brainwashed people without the slightest hint of critically thinking or self reflection.
Unless you really missed, I’m not talking about the Chinese.
techstyles on
Yeah, nah – cooperate with your Russian buddys lol
sh1a0m1nb on
They need more data. AI growth depends directly on the quality AND quantity of data it consumes.
_mini on
US in early days steal so much from Japan, AI these days steal so much from people’s original work. The truth is everyone is ripping off everybody else, no one is innocent.
almost_not_terrible on
This is hilarious.
Q. „Why are we behind?“
A. „Because you need to feed it uncensored, diverse opinions.“
Warm_Iron_273 on
If you want to play with the big kids, you need to play by their rules. If China showed any respect to the West it wouldn’t be in this predicament. Stop stealing our IP, give your citizens basic human rights, stop trying to meddle with Western culture to destabilize and divide (Tiktok, looking at you), and maybe things will be reconsidered.
TemperateStone on
Why are you posting an OPINION from SCMP on here? Is there no care for the sources on this sub?
Epoch_Unreason on
I see this comment section is full of 五毛. Not surprised in the slightest.
KanedaSyndrome on
Because they’re lagging behind and don’t understand how it works. Coming from the people that proudly called their national face recognition software „skynet“
ParticularCatNose on
Because they can’t figure it out and want to steal it. They want it for their social credit system and propaganda.
Flush_Man444 on
Because they can’t really train their model with all that censorships
emsiem22 on
I came here for the comments. It is hilarious. Like facebook hilarious
CEO-711 on
It needs the technology, right now China for good reason is blacklisted from significant technology and without it can’t develop its own AI infrastructure
Specialist-Bid-7410 on
China’s AI effort will be severely curtailed by having to censor results. AI does not work that way and it messes up the inference models. No cutting edge AI chips or software for China. China can create their own AI models which will not make sense to the rest of the world.
MitchTJones on
> US makes cell phone
> China copies it, sells it cheaper
> US makes fighter jet
> China copies it, uses it against US allies
> US allies make ultra-high-performance computer chips
> US + allies ban China from getting those chips
> US uses those chips to make AI
> „Everyone needs to put aside their differences and work together on this“ -China
PandaCheese2016 on
It’s just about impossible to have nuanced discussions based on a commonly accepted set of facts about China on Reddit.
Then again it’s the same thing for many other subjects…
Wyrdthane on
The chinese culture of practiced intellectual property theft, and freedom of copyright infringement, does not lend itself well to the idea of collaboration on AI.
All i can think of is, you just want us to show you our shit and steal it. Like you have been for 75 years straight.
There are no copyright laws in china that are defended strongly like in the rest of the world, and that is why you see a million knock off brands and reskinned videogames with the original code clearly copypasta’d.
Very suspicious if you ask me.
Not_Associated8700 on
I actually agree with the sentiment. The world really should come together and write the three laws of robotics.
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„Last week, the 2024 World Artificial Intelligence Conference was held in Shanghai. This year’s theme highlighted global AI governance. As the world faces increasing deglobalisation risks and trade disputes, the conference foregrounds the necessity of global cooperation over AI safety. Attendees discussed key risks in AI such as bias, infringement on intellectual property rights and private data, military use and environmental damages, stressing that these issues should be addressed by the international community. Countries and regions that build frameworks to govern AI, as a new form of capital, with responsibility, equity and inclusion will set international standards. Chinese Premier Li Qiang stressed the need for broader global participation to promote AI’s safe deployment.“
…etc etc. Ok so this article sorta feels ChatGPT-written/propaganda-ey but it’s probably somewhat reflective of CCP views, which to me is interesting, since they often communicate their views indirectly through op-eds like this.
Since China is behind the US right now they have incentives to cooperate. The big questions are, in what areas does it make sense to cooperate? Most Americans probably don’t want China to catch up, but many would probably agree it’d be good to coordinate on things like autonomous weapons, or AI safety. Also, where doesn’t it make sense to cooperate?
They want that sweet intelligent since opening cut them off
It is because they are not having any clue on what they are doing. Meaning they dont have the results they want to. In which turn they just want to steal everybodys elses intellecutal property
China will use AI to oppress it’s people. We should share nothing with them. They will simply lie about their intentions as usual.
They want to steal it. Same way China has reached many of its “advances” lately. Steal it from another country.
Bonus points when they don’t fully understand why something works and mess up implementation because of it
So many people against progress here, embittered by archaic notions of “nationalism” and “freedom” and “unopporession”
Probably because they want access to more of NVIDIA’s tech
How much of China’s economy is based off exports? The long -term health of an economy is reliant on its extremely low wage labor to produce goods for overseas consumption. If robots and AI can replace the low-wage overseas workers then a big part of China’s economy goes with it. I’m guessing China is desperate to figure out plan B and slow AIs role.
So many AI experts here, with insights into Chinese AI dev programs. How can you even tell if they are ahead or behind? I dont think that this would be knowledge available to their citizens. China has autonomous cars, public invigilation based on ai recognition etc. Is it r/future or r/2000s_thinking?
Good God, full of brainwashed people without the slightest hint of critically thinking or self reflection.
Unless you really missed, I’m not talking about the Chinese.
Yeah, nah – cooperate with your Russian buddys lol
They need more data. AI growth depends directly on the quality AND quantity of data it consumes.
US in early days steal so much from Japan, AI these days steal so much from people’s original work. The truth is everyone is ripping off everybody else, no one is innocent.
This is hilarious.
Q. „Why are we behind?“
A. „Because you need to feed it uncensored, diverse opinions.“
If you want to play with the big kids, you need to play by their rules. If China showed any respect to the West it wouldn’t be in this predicament. Stop stealing our IP, give your citizens basic human rights, stop trying to meddle with Western culture to destabilize and divide (Tiktok, looking at you), and maybe things will be reconsidered.
Why are you posting an OPINION from SCMP on here? Is there no care for the sources on this sub?
I see this comment section is full of 五毛. Not surprised in the slightest.
Because they’re lagging behind and don’t understand how it works. Coming from the people that proudly called their national face recognition software „skynet“
Because they can’t figure it out and want to steal it. They want it for their social credit system and propaganda.
Because they can’t really train their model with all that censorships
I came here for the comments. It is hilarious. Like facebook hilarious
It needs the technology, right now China for good reason is blacklisted from significant technology and without it can’t develop its own AI infrastructure
China’s AI effort will be severely curtailed by having to censor results. AI does not work that way and it messes up the inference models. No cutting edge AI chips or software for China. China can create their own AI models which will not make sense to the rest of the world.
> US makes cell phone
> China copies it, sells it cheaper
> US makes fighter jet
> China copies it, uses it against US allies
> US allies make ultra-high-performance computer chips
> US + allies ban China from getting those chips
> US uses those chips to make AI
> „Everyone needs to put aside their differences and work together on this“ -China
It’s just about impossible to have nuanced discussions based on a commonly accepted set of facts about China on Reddit.
Then again it’s the same thing for many other subjects…
The chinese culture of practiced intellectual property theft, and freedom of copyright infringement, does not lend itself well to the idea of collaboration on AI.
All i can think of is, you just want us to show you our shit and steal it. Like you have been for 75 years straight.
There are no copyright laws in china that are defended strongly like in the rest of the world, and that is why you see a million knock off brands and reskinned videogames with the original code clearly copypasta’d.
Very suspicious if you ask me.
I actually agree with the sentiment. The world really should come together and write the three laws of robotics.