We pride ourselves as people of having values, but honestly seeing this, as well as trash in nature during hikings (i will share), we have really shit values.
Forsaken_Guidance768 on
Average Armenian remembers Erebuni fortress only when some Russian idiots make porn there
Final-Difficulty-386 on
yep just pathetic
Herodotus_Greenleaf on
Erebuni has a lot more going on than other monuments. The museum is good quality, and the monument itself is closed off from those who don’t pay (though I’m sure this is not perfect). There are warnings about safety with the cliffs. The staff there are kind and knowledgeable, and there was a beautiful black street dog who guided me around the fortress itself when I visited.
I’ve been to other monuments and historic sites in Armenia that didn’t have so much as a plaque explaining what they were. The country is young and dealing with competing priorities. I know graffiti is disappointing, but it’s often part of the historical story of the place (look at this graffiti on the colosseum for an example: https://www.nationalgeographic.com/culture/article/130129-roman-italy-graffiti-colosseum-archeology-photo). Armenians have a lot to be proud of, and, hopefully as the country continues to develop, there can be more investment in natural and historical parks.
Sudden-Chocolate-999 on
It’s hard to believe. Pains, me!!!!
Complete-Form6553 on
Erebuni is heart of Yerevan
MudStandard5705 on
Մենք մեր պատմական հուշարձաններին որ սենց էնք վերաբերվում հետո ոնց կարանք թշնամուց ակնկալել որ սաղ բուլդոզեռով չքանդի։ Մինչև մենք մեր ունեցածը չհարգենք, ուրշները մեզ չեն հարգի։
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I was the most disappointed when I went to Geghard and climbed up some rocky hills to get into some caves and that secondary building you see on the side of the mountain. Carvings of who knows what and graffiti absolutely everywhere. This coupled with garbage absolutely everywhere in Yerevan. Yes, Kentron is relatively clean because there are workers who clean the streets, but once you go slightly out, all you find are wrappers, bottles, cigarette butts, plastic bags…it’s everywhere and it’s disgusting.
Graffiti and garbage is a problem I see everywhere in the world, but it seems to be 10x worse in Armenia. By far the most disappointing thing in my trips for me.
I even mentioned the littering to my gg driver. His response was “amot mezi”, and within minutes, was getting ready to throw his newly opened pack of cigarette wrappers out the window. When I called him out on it, his response was “vochinch, it’s just a small thing”.
Unfortunately, this isn’t going to change overnight and it’s sad to see.
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Not arguing with how graffitis are bad and people who do them on monuments are little shits, BUT:
The walls with graffitis in Erebuni fortress are covered with a beton plaster made in 1967-1969 by the Soviet.
They are NOT antique, Urarteans or later period.
The Soviet made these beton plasters to present an evocation, an idea, of how the walls were during Urartean and later period times: plastered and painted and decorated.
What is left of the antique plaster and decorations can be seen in the Museum (horse, man, flowers, etc.) and some small traces indicating their antique presence in some rooms are discovered each year during the Armenian-French archaeological mission.
Source: Am a French archaeologist currently working in Erebuni
Perfect-Relief-4813 on
The hell? And they supposedly put a description of the fortress where you can literally read nothing because the writing got screwed up. What’s the point? We don’t really protect such places. Not to be pessimistic but I expect buildings like these to disappear within 10 years or so just like the way many old sites and building have disappeared in Yerevan.
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Not just the Erebuni fortress. I remember visiting the Garni Temple and noticed all the cigarettes that were shoved between the stones. Imagine being such a lazy fuck that you have to put out your cigarette on the most famous tourist site in Armenia instead of walking a 100 ft to toss it in the trash. Shit like that deserves prison time
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If there’ll be a campaign to clean the place I’d gladly enjoy. And there should be a fine for littering. Մինչև ջեբներին չկպնես, ուղեղները չի մտնի։
KaiserCheifs on
That’s why morons decided to film a p*rn here…
khachdallak on
It’s in a state where you even feel bad recommending it to anyone
Ok_Connection7680 on
Just get the fortress to the normal state, rebuild it like we did with Garni or like Greeks with Parthenon
ZealousidealEmu6976 on
and here we are, asking the savages next door to keep our monuments intact… it’s a fucking joke
MshoAlik on
Jesus Christ
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We pride ourselves as people of having values, but honestly seeing this, as well as trash in nature during hikings (i will share), we have really shit values.
Average Armenian remembers Erebuni fortress only when some Russian idiots make porn there
yep just pathetic
Erebuni has a lot more going on than other monuments. The museum is good quality, and the monument itself is closed off from those who don’t pay (though I’m sure this is not perfect). There are warnings about safety with the cliffs. The staff there are kind and knowledgeable, and there was a beautiful black street dog who guided me around the fortress itself when I visited.
I’ve been to other monuments and historic sites in Armenia that didn’t have so much as a plaque explaining what they were. The country is young and dealing with competing priorities. I know graffiti is disappointing, but it’s often part of the historical story of the place (look at this graffiti on the colosseum for an example: https://www.nationalgeographic.com/culture/article/130129-roman-italy-graffiti-colosseum-archeology-photo). Armenians have a lot to be proud of, and, hopefully as the country continues to develop, there can be more investment in natural and historical parks.
It’s hard to believe. Pains, me!!!!
Erebuni is heart of Yerevan
Մենք մեր պատմական հուշարձաններին որ սենց էնք վերաբերվում հետո ոնց կարանք թշնամուց ակնկալել որ սաղ բուլդոզեռով չքանդի։ Մինչև մենք մեր ունեցածը չհարգենք, ուրշները մեզ չեն հարգի։
I was the most disappointed when I went to Geghard and climbed up some rocky hills to get into some caves and that secondary building you see on the side of the mountain. Carvings of who knows what and graffiti absolutely everywhere. This coupled with garbage absolutely everywhere in Yerevan. Yes, Kentron is relatively clean because there are workers who clean the streets, but once you go slightly out, all you find are wrappers, bottles, cigarette butts, plastic bags…it’s everywhere and it’s disgusting.
Graffiti and garbage is a problem I see everywhere in the world, but it seems to be 10x worse in Armenia. By far the most disappointing thing in my trips for me.
I even mentioned the littering to my gg driver. His response was “amot mezi”, and within minutes, was getting ready to throw his newly opened pack of cigarette wrappers out the window. When I called him out on it, his response was “vochinch, it’s just a small thing”.
Unfortunately, this isn’t going to change overnight and it’s sad to see.
Not arguing with how graffitis are bad and people who do them on monuments are little shits, BUT:
The walls with graffitis in Erebuni fortress are covered with a beton plaster made in 1967-1969 by the Soviet.
They are NOT antique, Urarteans or later period.
The Soviet made these beton plasters to present an evocation, an idea, of how the walls were during Urartean and later period times: plastered and painted and decorated.
What is left of the antique plaster and decorations can be seen in the Museum (horse, man, flowers, etc.) and some small traces indicating their antique presence in some rooms are discovered each year during the Armenian-French archaeological mission.
Source: Am a French archaeologist currently working in Erebuni
The hell? And they supposedly put a description of the fortress where you can literally read nothing because the writing got screwed up. What’s the point? We don’t really protect such places. Not to be pessimistic but I expect buildings like these to disappear within 10 years or so just like the way many old sites and building have disappeared in Yerevan.
Not just the Erebuni fortress. I remember visiting the Garni Temple and noticed all the cigarettes that were shoved between the stones. Imagine being such a lazy fuck that you have to put out your cigarette on the most famous tourist site in Armenia instead of walking a 100 ft to toss it in the trash. Shit like that deserves prison time
If there’ll be a campaign to clean the place I’d gladly enjoy. And there should be a fine for littering. Մինչև ջեբներին չկպնես, ուղեղները չի մտնի։
That’s why morons decided to film a p*rn here…
It’s in a state where you even feel bad recommending it to anyone
Just get the fortress to the normal state, rebuild it like we did with Garni or like Greeks with Parthenon
and here we are, asking the savages next door to keep our monuments intact… it’s a fucking joke
Jesus Christ