Der PBS-Sender verliert den Zugriff auf 50 TB Daten aus 70 Jahren TV-Geschichte, nachdem der vertraglich vereinbarte Cloud-Speicheranbieter nicht mehr existiert
https://www.tomshardware.com/software/cloud-storage/nine-pbs-loses-access-to-70-years-of-data-after-contracted-cloud-storage-vendor-goes-defunct-public-tv-channel-sues-iron-mountain-data-center-which-hosts-archival-materials-to-ensure-preservation
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another semi-regular reminder that if data only exists in one place it isn’t backed up. 3 copies, 2 mediums, 1 in a different physical location.
All eggs, one basket
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> It seems that the safest legal way to resolve this issue is for Nine PBS to get a court order requiring Iron Mountain to turn over its data.
Or send Mr. Robot in to retrieve it, ez pz.
I need to back up my raid…
50tb shouldn’t have been that hard to keep a few copies on hard drives in addition to cloud storage.
OK, this just reminded me….
321.
3 back ups, 2 local, 1 remote.
This is crazy because this could’ve been locally backed up for like 2 grand.
After the Cloud it goes into the River. You don’t want the River.
Mismanagement
Wow, that’s fucking unbelievable
Why not say iron mtn in the title?
I hate online „journalism“
They lost it as soon as they moved it to a cloud storage vendor.
„Two is one and one is none.“
50TB is so little. Be easy to have another copy. I manage an object storage that’s 9PB
I keep telling my clients to stop using cloud companies exclusively exactly because of this and none of them listen.
Yo I could have hosted this on my Plex server
50TB is literally three 20TB hard drives in a raid array sitting in a closet. The fact that a broadcast giant lost 70 years of national history because someone’s SaaS startup went under is the ultimate „cloud is just someone else’s computer“ moment.
If their only archive was with one cloud provider then they were doing it wrong.
As someone who does this work for NASA and has this exact worry, this sentence pissed me off:
> This wouldn’t have been an issue if the organization bought a $1,000 NAS and populated it with a few hard drives.
Shut up.
That’s not how that works. Yeah, sure, at your house a NAS would be sufficient. But at an organization you need to refresh hardware, have staff on hand to ensure data is flowing, metrics, warnings and alerts, maybe even someone on call if the data is critical? I know this is PBS but the whole reason you go with a cloud vendor is to not have to worry about these things.
Sure, a NAS would have maybe fixed this. You want to know what the actual fix is? FUND PBS so they don’t have to go with janky commercial cloud providers and have enough money to at least partially mitigate these things.
Paging /r/DataHoarder. We need to save PBS!!!
back in my day we just kept our files on our own computer rather than pay monthly to have it on someone else’s computer a thousand miles away.
The only reliable Backup is YOU… Cloud cannot be relied on as it is literally in an NON guaranteed place… Read those EULA’s, they are not responsible for YOUR Data… You are… Companies come and go every day, get bought out and change their policies… Employees are disgruntled, underpaid, under educated, equipment is usually low bid or cheapest they can get at the moment… People do CLOUD because they are herded like sheep to it or because it’s the COOL thing at the moment… Cloud and AI are not in your best interest…
What that PBS Station paid over the years could most likely could have built their own Cloud Company… Just plain lazy on their part…
I cringe every time I hear an Office has gone „Cloud“… I had a client (Dr. Office) switch to a company that was in the „Cloud“ against my recommendations… After the first year, they jacked the price almost double for another year, 2 years later, doubled it again and the client was done… They wanted to go to another company not cloud but, locally stored data… The Cloud Company said, go ahead… But, they were keeping the data as it was theirs as per the contract and the client had to sue the company and even had to pay for their own data as per judgement…
Just because you’re paranoid, doesn’t mean they are not out to get you…
They shutdown the cloud and there goes our history.
Someone get /r/DataHoarder on the line to help re-populate that data.
Maybe we shouldn’t leave priceless cultural heritage in the hands of the cheapest company? You would expect that some legal redundancy would be required, too.
The vendor could just do what’s best for society here
Their own fault for placing everything on the cloud and not having backups.
I have 4T of storage at home. Why would they pay a company to store their data when they could have invested in hardware to store it?
50TB would have been so cheap to back up, we could have done that for free… Sigh
“There is no such thing as a cloud. There is just other people’s computers”
-Aristotle
Billionaires ruined tech, and our elected officials let them do it.
somewhere in the distance, r/DataHoarder cries out in agony
So basically, PBS is so under funded they couldn’t afford to run a small server.
The current administration sucks
Wow, a moment to realize they should just put everything on a public torrent. Let others back up for them.