Ich bin kürzlich bei Vinted eingestiegen und habe einige Spiele und andere Sammlerstücke aus unserer Sammlung verkauft. Diese Artikel werden als Neuware und in der Originalverpackung verkauft.
Soweit ich weiß, muss ich die Verkäufe deklarieren, wenn ich mehr als 30 Artikel verkaufe oder 2000 € erreiche. Ich überschreite diese Schwelle schnell und es stresst mich, weil ich nicht genügend Informationen darüber finde, wie ich damit umgehen soll.
Meine Frage lautet: Wie kann ich diese Verkäufe einreichen/deklarieren, wenn ich nicht über die Originalkaufbelege/Quittungen der Artikel verfüge?
Viele dieser Gegenstände sind mindestens ein Jahrzehnt alt. Einige davon werden nicht mehr verkauft oder ihr Wert schwankt von Zeit zu Zeit.
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Von killbear1988
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Call them. Vero generally has very good customer service. **029 497 050**
You don’t need to declare sales of Vinted/Tori etc. sales unless you’re doing professionally and making a living out of the profits.
Ring them, its the only way to get a better understanding. They speak English if you need.
I agree with the advice to call Vero. Every time I have needed to deal with them they have been professional, helpful, and the issue was solved either in one call or with a quick follow up. A call to them never results in a “problem”…if you’re proactive they will work with you.
My father-in-law recommends just getting an accountant to do it for you. As I understand there are both apps and traditional firms that can do it for you in Finland for a fee, last time I checked it was something like 40 euro a month but of course don’t take my word for it as I’d imagine most of those offers probably have subscription-based pricing. Just something to look into.
The line between hobby (so no taxes up to 5000 euro profit) and investment (taxes after 1000 euro of profit) for cards and collectibles is very thin. I have been through the same question and the answer is definitely not clear on Vero guidelines and website. It’s a case-by-case thing. If you ask me there is hobby nature also in collecting sealed products (even though for Vero they are unused and thus investment items). Let me know what they reply to you, I’m very interested.
You should probably contact them in regards of this, tell them they are old games from a private collection that you are now selling off. They should not be taxed but VERO needs to be informed since you are raking in a significant amount of money.
According to [this page,](https://www.vinted.fi/help/1149-dac-7-nama-pitaa-tietaa) Vinted will reach out to you if you hit 30 items or 2000€ in sales. But if your yearly profit is below 5000€, you don’t have to pay taxes.
The reporting duty, as I understand DAC7, is with/through Vinted.
Dont declare them, they are not interested of your 2k. If they are they will let you know
You are fine under 5,000€ but also if it’s your own belongings you are fine. If you using it as a business then you need to declare it.
Agreeing with the majority on calling Vero. Most of the agency speaks English very well.
Also, if you do need to report something it can also be done on OmaVero. That is also set up in English, Finnish and Swedish (Mostly cause a lot of the developers only speak English 😅, but it makes it convenient for us English speakers).
it says on the vero.fi website that if you sell items that have been in use in your family and PROFIT over 5 000€ a year, you have to start paying tax. If you flip items and sell over 1 000€ worth of items you have to start paying tax. But as I understand you’re selling stuff that you already own, unless you’re profiting over 5 000€ you’re fine. If your profits exceed 5 000€, you have to to pay 30% tax until your profits hit 30 000€, if you profit over 30 000€ the tax is 34%.
I think the limit is only for the profit you make. So unless you are making a profit, there’s nothing to declare. If you’re making a profit, then you should look up luovutusvoittovero or myyntivoittovero.
Edit: the limit is 5000€ and only applies to profit (https://www.vero.fi/henkiloasiakkaat/omaisuus/asunnon-myynti/kotiirtaimiston-myynti/)
Per the Income Tax Act 48 § subsection 1 paragraph 2, basic personal property can be sold tax-free for up to 5000 € of profit per year
If your „collectibles“ include pricey art or jewels, AFAIK they should be declared, but other miscallenious stuff like games should be ok (it is still best to ask Verohallinto, if in doubt)
I also think that as long as the money is in vinted credit instead of your bank account, its all good. If you transfer the money tonyour bank it will be flagged and i think its 5000€ and the exceeding part of that you will need to pay capital gains tax on. Call vero, use chatgpt. All information is on the internet’s
If it’s from your own collection, you have hardly made any profit at all, and there would be NO taxes.
You should try AI to get information, instruct the bot to use [vero.fi](http://vero.fi) instructions.
‚As new‘ is not the same as ’new‘. You are selling second-hand items.
Or just…..dont. They will waste the money anyway