„Die Odyssee“ beweist es: Das Publikum will Filme, die auf die harte Tour gemacht wurden | Die diesjährigen Erfolge wie „Project Hail Mary“ und „Obsession“ wurden von schwitzenden Filmemachern gemacht. Während computergenerierte Franchise-Enttäuschungen wie „Supergirl“, „Moana“ und „The Mandalorian and Grogu“ langweilig aussahen.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/odyssey-box-office-2026-practical-effects-1236652219/
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In other words, the people that still go to movie theaters are the ones that can appreciate quality, not the people that just want to turn their brains off for 90 minutes
Yeah I think its pretty significant that the biggest hits of the year are Obsession, Backrooms, The Odyssey, Project Hail Mary, etc. and Toy Story, which I am way less familiar with.
So, maybe people don’t just want lazy CG/AI films plopped out. The practical effects in most of those movies looked fantastic and made me actually want to go to the movie theater again.
Sure, but Spider-Man and Avengers are going to blast past those movies regardless of quality….
WE’VE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR YEARS. It’s almost like out of touch billionaires shouldn’t be running every fucking industry.
Does it? Loads of movies get audiences to theatres and always have done, this isn’t new. We’ve also still had plenty of incredible movies that bomb
It’s just harder and more rare due to how streaming functions and cost of tickets
And Spider-man and Doomsday are about to do silly numbers
Seeing the success of The Odyssey and first thing Monday morning the new Avengers trailer dropped. Where a most striking difference in style couldn’t be any clearer. I don’t think it’s as black and white as „people hate CGI,“ moreso the effort behind its use. Superhero films have become nothing but greenscreen stages ending up with shots of dark rooms where people fight with lighting up fists/weapons. It got lazy, everything became CGI (including the suits), and it became unbelievably obvious that half the cast isn’t in the room for half of these group shots.
The new Spider-Man looks great because it walks the line between the two. There’s a lot of CGI but it’s obvious that they went out and got real footage of an actor in a suit swinging in nature.
The effort is a big part of it. People want to see something that feels handmade and in the age of AI, feeling like human effort was put into it goes a long way.
Mando used a lot of practical effects aswell.
I don’t think most people care, they go for the big names, that’s it
This is an idiotic and reductive take on Hollywood problems.
Yeah just watch Spiderman blow this arguement in two weeks
I remember watching Death Proof and doing a double take after watching a real car crash in a film. We live in such a sad artificially flavored world.
Like diamonds.. I want them extra bloody!
I think this is kind of an insult to all the artistry in Mando. Sure, the plot was a traditional fun adventure, but they built huge practical sets and used a lot of old-school techniques like puppetry and stop motion. Also, why are we acting like CGI is easy?
The Odyssey and Hail Mary have a ton of CGI too. They didn’t exactly go to Ancient Greece or space to find an alien.
Supergirl and Mando were great though.
Kinda hope avengers doomsday fails for this reason. It’s just a cash in for Disney to make bank. No art or good storytelling involved
I don’t think the cgi was the deciding factor at all. Moana was a remake of a movie that came out a decade ago. Supergirl is the 10,000th generic superhero movie in the past decade. The Mandoalorian and Grogu is the 1,000,000th star wars installment in the past decade. Maybe, just maybe people want fresh ideas, not the same rehashed for the umpteenth time this year
CGI is fine. As long as it is good CGI. People are tired of lazy crappy CGI.
If studios took their time with the CGI, its fine. But movie tickets are too expensive to go and see a crappily made movie filmed with crappy CGI. People are making economic choices when it comes to movies. Make high quality movies and people go to see them
I think that’s just how it is. People love to see the hardship that goes into truly crafting a great film, and at this point we don’t get them very often. I also think people have slowly been trained to potentially not like green screen movies as much. Movies where everyone is being filmed on a green screen have a ‚look‘ to them, and that’s happening with almost everything now and it’s sort of this touchstone for movie quality, but because of everything happening in the technology space with AI and GenAI, perhaps people can’t trust what they’re seeing as much now, they want to know what they are watching is ‚real‘, and not some afterthought, and a way to do that is through the hardship of standard on-location filmmaking with less CGI and more practical effects.
Mando was bad for other reasons.
Project Hail Mary and Odyssey use a lot of vfx they just use then to enhance the story not tell it
Doesn’t hurt that they were also good. It’s not that people don’t want cgi, they don’t want bad or bland movies.
I dunno. I had some plot notes about Supergirl but the thing that stood out for me is that AMC and Silverspot parked the movie into the tiniest screens a week after opening. They had a huge push for Minions and a bigger one for Moana and those are still in the biggest or the mid-tier screens.
As for Supergirl, I enjoyed it for the most part and was okay paying matinee prices.
By the way, Supergirl’s production budget was $170 million with an estimated additional $120 ad spend. While *Project Hail Mary* had a production budget of $248 million, with an ad spend of $50 million. So you tell me, which one was lazy again?
Disney have a formula… Like a McMovie experience and it’s starting to feel meh. It’s fine for the small screen, but it doesn’t dazzle on the big screen.
The issue with Mando had nothing to do with the effects imo. The effects were good
Dead cat bounce. Industry is desperate for salvation, will interpret this as some kind of sign when it’s just an anomalous spike on the downward trend.
Surely Hollywood will learn from this, right? Surely Hollywood will actually realize this and not just pump out another 15 forgettable movies or so.
(I’m being sarcastic)
The audience wants good movies.
Stop making it so complicated.
You can make a billion dollar XYZ movie but if its bad no one will watch.
This is why I never got into the Hobbit movies. The night and day difference with real people playing orcs/goblins just is such a difference maker
Yup. And more yup.
Happy to see CGI get some shade.
Happy to see and hope people notice.
It’s not all in the special effects.
I just want good films, man. But yeah, the less CGI, the better.
CGI is a tool and like any tool it can be used well (LOTR) and it can be used poorly (Hobbit).
Nolan clearly knows how to use CGI effectively (see Inception and Interstellar) but his now decades long stance on trying to avoid using it entirely is like working with one arm tied behind his back. No one is asking him to do that but himself.
Watch the Odyssey as if didn’t know it was a Nolan film and you quickly realize its standard execution of a story that is entirely missing an epic feel because of the choice to minimize CGI. It could easily have aired on HBO as a prestige film. For example, the sacking of Troy, with a costume change, could have effortlessly fit into a Game of Thrones episode. Same with most of the movie.
What really saying is need smart use of CGI, not no use of CGI.
CGI and more recently AI are tools that can be used to great effect. However, they can definitely be overused and it’s obvious when this is the case.
Older movies like Starship Troopers and Jurassic Park (there are plenty more, these are just two of my favorite examples) hold up because they got that balance right.
Or maybe films based on literature have a built in audience?
we want a real and creative movie experience again, not lazy remakes and endless sequels to dead franchises. Even lower budget movies like Obsession and Backrooms prove that good cinema will get people into the theaters again to see new IPs and exciting, well made movies.
don’t point to franchises and say lazy.
you’re lazy, and so are your titles.
I’m a CG artist who’s worked in VFX for film and would love to see the industry return to great cinema first, CGI as a special aspect, rather than a business model.
There is still going to be CGI in most films to a degree, but Marvel, you lost the plot along the way. It really devalues both the craft of VFX and Film, and audience appeal, to rely so heavily on cheaper (?) models of storytelling. The writing suffers, the entertainment culture suffers. Just make great films and use VFX where necessary.
I think this is oversimplification.
It doesn’t prove anything. It’s a Nolan Joint.
People say they want original* movies.
Studio makes original movies.
99% bomb.
People see 1% and say why don’t studios make original movies.
**Obviously Odyssey isn’t original. But you know what I mean.*
Literally every single one of the headlines can be summed up to “people like good movies.”
Nobody cares about cg or “historical accuracy” if the movie is good.
There are kind of examples like this for years. Kung fu movies represent this well. The old movies in asia with actors actually beating the heck out of each other and the high injury rate are always referred to as the golden age of kung fu movies.
I think a lot of it is how actors have to move. Computers just cant replicate how quickly we move when theres actually urgency to things and our brains respond to it on some level
This sounds like somebody trying to push a narrative
A lot of CGI goes unnoticed by audience. A lot of things that people think are CGI are actually practical effects. Sure there’s bad CGI that sticks out like sore thumbs. But it’s more about the overall effect — whether what is happening on screen looks like it has some connection to reality and plausible, physical things — that keeps people engaged. And it really comes down to story and characters
If you think that the CGI is the reason that Supergirl, Moana, and Mandalorian and Grogu flopped then you are an idiot.
Supergirl was a lot of fun, and Mandalorian was enjoyable, even if it felt like two episodes stitched together.