As wrong as Eby is on *many* points (Indigenous rights, housing, etc), this one in which I accept that he is right in taking a stand on.
Removing alcohol from the shelves was in direct response to Trump’s trade war, and 51st state rhetoric. Trump can’t therefore point to these responses to his actions, cry foul, and then expect us to not respond. If he wants the alcohol back on the shelves, then he should be seeking to reduce the tensions between our nations, not inflaming them. Especially when he most recently whined over the smoke coming over the border to the US, while BC is feeling the effects of the smoke from California.
Practical_Dot_845 on
50% export tax on fertilizer, aluminum, oil and gas, critical minerals, potash and electricity. This would all be over in a week.
Mysterious_Error9619 on
Well not exactly. I’m saying Canadians should not buy US products. But the government shouldn’t decide that. We are a tiny country. There are products like iPhones and computers and cars etc that we are dependent on and don’t have alternatives.
Canadians need to step up and fight themselves. Don’t buy American stuff. That’s a very different message and negotiating point versus the Canadian government has banned us stuff. Same end result. But it’s a lot harder to whine about people just not wanting to buy your stuff than it is to whine about your stuff not being allowed on shelves.
JeNiqueTaMere on
No point in making any concessions to them. They never reciprocate.
We’ve already conceded many things for absolutely no gain.
FriendshipOk6223 on
It’s the issue with Trump tantrums. He is making almost impossible politically for Canadian leaders to accept any concessions.
Jarcode on
Cross posting my response to this for context:
BC has experienced a long history of illegal tariffs targeting its logging industry that go back to Bush. There’s a general understanding that the Americans are just generally assholes when it comes to trade agreements and the companies involved are basically used to weathering out this volatility. Eby isn’t interesting in negotiating on this because it’s basically normal now.
And to anyone that says these tariffs hurt BC: yes, but they are typically temporary disruptions that cause US buyers to hold off on importing before prices settle, and then they will just purchase it anyways. I think a lot of people miss that the industry in BC is huge and there is no sustainable replacement for WRC lumber, so Americans really do just end up eating the cost.
Our negotiations have time and time again pointed out that these particular tariffs seem to always arise from the lobbying efforts of domestic US logging companies, who simply seek to inflate the cost of lumber within the markets they operate in, while ignoring that they do not actually have the capacity to satisfy domestic demand. This just hurts every other American that has to pay the inflated price, and high construction costs can have some interesting ripple effects as well.
As usual with the US legislative process and tariff regime, lobbyists seem to control the language of what is signed and ends up benefiting a very small amount of people.
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As wrong as Eby is on *many* points (Indigenous rights, housing, etc), this one in which I accept that he is right in taking a stand on.
Removing alcohol from the shelves was in direct response to Trump’s trade war, and 51st state rhetoric. Trump can’t therefore point to these responses to his actions, cry foul, and then expect us to not respond. If he wants the alcohol back on the shelves, then he should be seeking to reduce the tensions between our nations, not inflaming them. Especially when he most recently whined over the smoke coming over the border to the US, while BC is feeling the effects of the smoke from California.
50% export tax on fertilizer, aluminum, oil and gas, critical minerals, potash and electricity. This would all be over in a week.
Well not exactly. I’m saying Canadians should not buy US products. But the government shouldn’t decide that. We are a tiny country. There are products like iPhones and computers and cars etc that we are dependent on and don’t have alternatives.
Canadians need to step up and fight themselves. Don’t buy American stuff. That’s a very different message and negotiating point versus the Canadian government has banned us stuff. Same end result. But it’s a lot harder to whine about people just not wanting to buy your stuff than it is to whine about your stuff not being allowed on shelves.
No point in making any concessions to them. They never reciprocate.
We’ve already conceded many things for absolutely no gain.
It’s the issue with Trump tantrums. He is making almost impossible politically for Canadian leaders to accept any concessions.
Cross posting my response to this for context:
BC has experienced a long history of illegal tariffs targeting its logging industry that go back to Bush. There’s a general understanding that the Americans are just generally assholes when it comes to trade agreements and the companies involved are basically used to weathering out this volatility. Eby isn’t interesting in negotiating on this because it’s basically normal now.
And to anyone that says these tariffs hurt BC: yes, but they are typically temporary disruptions that cause US buyers to hold off on importing before prices settle, and then they will just purchase it anyways. I think a lot of people miss that the industry in BC is huge and there is no sustainable replacement for WRC lumber, so Americans really do just end up eating the cost.
Our negotiations have time and time again pointed out that these particular tariffs seem to always arise from the lobbying efforts of domestic US logging companies, who simply seek to inflate the cost of lumber within the markets they operate in, while ignoring that they do not actually have the capacity to satisfy domestic demand. This just hurts every other American that has to pay the inflated price, and high construction costs can have some interesting ripple effects as well.
As usual with the US legislative process and tariff regime, lobbyists seem to control the language of what is signed and ends up benefiting a very small amount of people.