I’m going to find it hard to imagine Gardaí to enforce this. I’m not saying that as an argument against it, but why not make it a crime for shops to sell them to children? I’m sure adults buy them for their kids so I’m sure that also wouldn’t go far enough
Tomaskerry on
Insurance seems a bit excessive.
The big advantage of them is that they’re cheap to use.
To be fair, you could just buy a bike instead.
Wetasanotter on
>But this is now a major health issue in Ireland, a major road safety issue in Ireland, and that’s why we’re acting decisively,” he said.
No it’s not, it’s just a popular political issue and you’re finally jumping on the bandwagon after several years of inaction with a bureaucratic and punishing response that will just push people back into cars or extraordinary long commutes via public transport while doing nothing about the issue that people actually care about (behaviour that was already illegal and not in any way enforced).
This is what this Government does, as a result of illegal behaviour they bring in measures to punish people who aren’t the problem while not tackling the real problem.
hmmm_ on
Seems a shame to effectively ban something so useful because of the actions of a few.
Dr_Eloyd on
Lol so they just found a way to make money off this kicking horse. Looking forward to see how they manage to get a tax disc on a scooter.
RevTurk on
This is effectively them doing nothing.
Scooters aren’t the problem, people abusing them and having zero consideration for other road and path users are the problem.
The only thing that will fix this is a garda crackdown. They need to give the guards whatever resources or legal back up they need to go after the people breaking the law. They probably already know who’s doing it, where they live and the routes they take every day.
This is just typical of FF/FG policy of hands off approach to everything. If it can’t be fixed with taxes, fines, or paperwork they are all out of suggestions and we just have to live with the problem.
MrBulwark on
Lol fuck this government
KillerKlown88 on
I hate these stupid scooters, but this is all getting ridiculous.
Enforce the current laws instead of punishig responsible users.
ThemeStunning5969 on
Government still have no idea how to tackle a problem without taxing it. All makes no difference anyways as it won’t be enforced
ChaosActual on
I feel sorry for the people who actually follow the current rules and will no doubt follow the new ones
It’s the other lot who are the problem and it will make zero difference to them
TheBatmanIRL on
Again, measures that need enforcement that won’t be enforced.
SomeRandomGamer3 on
Except you won’t be able to register them to be able to tax and insure them. No EU certs of conformity for them.
mushy_cactus on
Kinda impressive how quick they made this law with the need of tax and insurance…
If only they could be as competent across others areas of the law.
donall on
So if there’s tax will there be infrastructure?
Due-Communication724 on
The problem users are the ones that need targeting, just looking at the serious issue of robbed motorbikes (the gov keep pushing this narrative of ’scramblers‘, its all motorcycles), the Garda are absolutely powerless to do anything. What will happen is the same, the good citizens will follow the rules, and the gougers will rob them and abuse it, and like motorcycles just won’t stop and the Garda won’t do anything cause they’ll be up shit creek without a paddle if someone comes off one.
Smackmybitchup007 on
Lol. This means licences, reg plates and tax and insurance discs. The red tape for enacting this legislation will stop it. All talk bullshit.
TwinIronBlood on
No insurance company is going to take this on. Next bicycles will need it to. We have laws just enforce them.
DaCor_ie on
This doesn’t even work for cars as evidenced by the numbers caught with no tax, insurance, licences etc
Omuirchu on
Surprised it took them this long to tax them. Seems like the governments answer to everything.
Friendly-Look4262 on
so what will happen is responsible users of escooters who weren’t an issue anyways will get licensed and pay insurance, whilst those who were being a public menace on them will continue to be so without getting either of those requirements due to zero enforcement
Rowley_Birkin_Qc on
eScooters are an absolute godsend for this government.
They can take a very hard line on something that will have next to no effect on core FFG voters.
They can bring in blunt unenforceable regulations, point at AGS and say „it’s yer problem now lads“ and wipe their hands of it.
It also allowed the Aughinish Alumina scandal, along with umpteen others, to slide off the front pages while the Dáil gets ready to break up for a big holiday.
They are following a golden rule in politics by not letting a good crisis go to waste.
Davidoff1983 on
I love how the Irish government solves every problem by monetizing it.
PirateShampoo on
They do the absolute minimum on traffic laws as it is. Do people really think they suddenly going to start checking people on scooters. We will have a big song and dance for a week and then back to the current status quo.
Betterthanthouu on
The discourse around this is the most ignorant thing I’ve ever seen, and I’m pretty confident it’s intentional ignorance. The people using e-scooters dangerously are already almost exclusively using ones that aren’t legal, and will continue to do so no matter what laws are introduced. The only people punished by this will be people who were following the law to begin with, which is of course largely younger and working class people, so why would FFG care as long as it gains some popularity amongst their voters who are entirely unaware of the current laws.
BlueBloodLive on
So my scooter which is locked at 25kph, has to have tax and insurance, with mandatory vest and helmet, while the lads on bicycles blast past me, and go through red lights at 50kph+ with no vest or helmet?
Such a pile of fucking shite.
Insurance companies are now licking their lips, as a pile of money just gets dropped in their lap. Much like Diageo and the minimum pricing.
lrishWolfHound on
Can’t fucking wait for the Gardai to only enforce this against your average 9-5 worker getting to and from work on the scooters, while the lifelong dole merchant scrote will never, ever be checked because it’s too much effort for them to give chase.
Absolutely woeful decision from FFFG as always.
Important-Field1995 on
There’s no insurance company gonna cover ya on those things they’re wholesale dangerous.
If the government is making insurance mandatory and a legal requirement they should have a vehicle to supply insurance instead of letting the private sector dictate the cost.
Psycho_Mantits on
Those who use them illegally will not get insurance. Those who wish to use them as another mode of transport now have additional blockers. Well done government on doing absolutely fucking nothing on the topic. The answer is enforcement, that’s it. There is no other solution to this problem.
nerdling007 on
Escooters are a lovely distraction from larger issues. People don’t seem to realise how propagandised they’ve been to have these kneejerk reactions to them, to the point of advocating for violence against users by drivers. People need to get a massive grip and stop baying along like sheep on this pearl clutch issue and demand an actual solution to the problem that is crime.
IronDragonGx on
So they have figured out they can make money off them now and tax them
N81Warrior on
Imagine driving an uninsured scooter. Nanny state gone absolutely mad.
Otherwise-Winner9643 on
I am a detective garda. Here’s why an e-scooter ban is unenforceable
*These motorised urban “terrorists” can act with impunity because – to be clear – not one member of An Garda Síochána is trained to pursue them. Not one. Indeed, they are not even trained to pursue a car, never mind a scrambler or an e-scooter. There isn’t any specialist pursuit unit in the pipeline, either. There are two Garda driving schools and one competency-based driving model for the organisation. Pursuit driving is covered by neither the schools nor the model and the trainers haven’t been trained in the practical application of the pursuit policy.*
*In his evidence to the justice committee, Kelly said 75 per cent of requests to pursue are authorised by control.*
*And when one of these pursuits ends badly, who stands before the court? Not the senior officer who gave verbal authorisation. It’s the driver, often a recent recruit to the force. This is something equivalent to a forklift operator on day one of his career being given the keys to a forklift and a bulky manual as the only form of on-the-job training. But of course, this would never happen with a forklift driver because there are stringent EU-wide safety standards.*…
*As things stand, the complaints process is being weaponised by the very people who use scramblers illegally. They cynically exploit the system to make complaints when something goes wrong, which is how a garda can find him or herself in the dock.*
Senior-Programmer355 on
joke… they’re just using it as an opportunity to take more money from the people rather than educating them and punishing who does bad things only.
Classic approach… congrats to you all who voted for these
spintokid on
This basically does the opposite of what they want the outcome to be. The people who used e-scooters how they are supposed to will stop using them and those who don’t will ignore this and continue to use e-scooters recklessly. Unless the police crack down on it and at that point may as well have just banned them
mrtn1790 on
Anybody who presently owns and operates a street-legal e-scooter should point blank refuse to cooperate with this and clog up the courts. „*The Oireachtas shall not declare acts to be infringements of the law which were not so at the date of their commission.“*
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I’m going to find it hard to imagine Gardaí to enforce this. I’m not saying that as an argument against it, but why not make it a crime for shops to sell them to children? I’m sure adults buy them for their kids so I’m sure that also wouldn’t go far enough
Insurance seems a bit excessive.
The big advantage of them is that they’re cheap to use.
To be fair, you could just buy a bike instead.
>But this is now a major health issue in Ireland, a major road safety issue in Ireland, and that’s why we’re acting decisively,” he said.
No it’s not, it’s just a popular political issue and you’re finally jumping on the bandwagon after several years of inaction with a bureaucratic and punishing response that will just push people back into cars or extraordinary long commutes via public transport while doing nothing about the issue that people actually care about (behaviour that was already illegal and not in any way enforced).
This is what this Government does, as a result of illegal behaviour they bring in measures to punish people who aren’t the problem while not tackling the real problem.
Seems a shame to effectively ban something so useful because of the actions of a few.
Lol so they just found a way to make money off this kicking horse. Looking forward to see how they manage to get a tax disc on a scooter.
This is effectively them doing nothing.
Scooters aren’t the problem, people abusing them and having zero consideration for other road and path users are the problem.
The only thing that will fix this is a garda crackdown. They need to give the guards whatever resources or legal back up they need to go after the people breaking the law. They probably already know who’s doing it, where they live and the routes they take every day.
This is just typical of FF/FG policy of hands off approach to everything. If it can’t be fixed with taxes, fines, or paperwork they are all out of suggestions and we just have to live with the problem.
Lol fuck this government
I hate these stupid scooters, but this is all getting ridiculous.
Enforce the current laws instead of punishig responsible users.
Government still have no idea how to tackle a problem without taxing it. All makes no difference anyways as it won’t be enforced
I feel sorry for the people who actually follow the current rules and will no doubt follow the new ones
It’s the other lot who are the problem and it will make zero difference to them
Again, measures that need enforcement that won’t be enforced.
Except you won’t be able to register them to be able to tax and insure them. No EU certs of conformity for them.
Kinda impressive how quick they made this law with the need of tax and insurance…
If only they could be as competent across others areas of the law.
So if there’s tax will there be infrastructure?
The problem users are the ones that need targeting, just looking at the serious issue of robbed motorbikes (the gov keep pushing this narrative of ’scramblers‘, its all motorcycles), the Garda are absolutely powerless to do anything. What will happen is the same, the good citizens will follow the rules, and the gougers will rob them and abuse it, and like motorcycles just won’t stop and the Garda won’t do anything cause they’ll be up shit creek without a paddle if someone comes off one.
Lol. This means licences, reg plates and tax and insurance discs. The red tape for enacting this legislation will stop it. All talk bullshit.
No insurance company is going to take this on. Next bicycles will need it to. We have laws just enforce them.
This doesn’t even work for cars as evidenced by the numbers caught with no tax, insurance, licences etc
Surprised it took them this long to tax them. Seems like the governments answer to everything.
so what will happen is responsible users of escooters who weren’t an issue anyways will get licensed and pay insurance, whilst those who were being a public menace on them will continue to be so without getting either of those requirements due to zero enforcement
eScooters are an absolute godsend for this government.
They can take a very hard line on something that will have next to no effect on core FFG voters.
They can bring in blunt unenforceable regulations, point at AGS and say „it’s yer problem now lads“ and wipe their hands of it.
It also allowed the Aughinish Alumina scandal, along with umpteen others, to slide off the front pages while the Dáil gets ready to break up for a big holiday.
They are following a golden rule in politics by not letting a good crisis go to waste.
I love how the Irish government solves every problem by monetizing it.
They do the absolute minimum on traffic laws as it is. Do people really think they suddenly going to start checking people on scooters. We will have a big song and dance for a week and then back to the current status quo.
The discourse around this is the most ignorant thing I’ve ever seen, and I’m pretty confident it’s intentional ignorance. The people using e-scooters dangerously are already almost exclusively using ones that aren’t legal, and will continue to do so no matter what laws are introduced. The only people punished by this will be people who were following the law to begin with, which is of course largely younger and working class people, so why would FFG care as long as it gains some popularity amongst their voters who are entirely unaware of the current laws.
So my scooter which is locked at 25kph, has to have tax and insurance, with mandatory vest and helmet, while the lads on bicycles blast past me, and go through red lights at 50kph+ with no vest or helmet?
Such a pile of fucking shite.
Insurance companies are now licking their lips, as a pile of money just gets dropped in their lap. Much like Diageo and the minimum pricing.
Can’t fucking wait for the Gardai to only enforce this against your average 9-5 worker getting to and from work on the scooters, while the lifelong dole merchant scrote will never, ever be checked because it’s too much effort for them to give chase.
Absolutely woeful decision from FFFG as always.
There’s no insurance company gonna cover ya on those things they’re wholesale dangerous.
If the government is making insurance mandatory and a legal requirement they should have a vehicle to supply insurance instead of letting the private sector dictate the cost.
Those who use them illegally will not get insurance. Those who wish to use them as another mode of transport now have additional blockers. Well done government on doing absolutely fucking nothing on the topic. The answer is enforcement, that’s it. There is no other solution to this problem.
Escooters are a lovely distraction from larger issues. People don’t seem to realise how propagandised they’ve been to have these kneejerk reactions to them, to the point of advocating for violence against users by drivers. People need to get a massive grip and stop baying along like sheep on this pearl clutch issue and demand an actual solution to the problem that is crime.
So they have figured out they can make money off them now and tax them
Imagine driving an uninsured scooter. Nanny state gone absolutely mad.
I am a detective garda. Here’s why an e-scooter ban is unenforceable
https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/2026/07/21/i-am-a-detective-garda-heres-why-an-e-scooter-ban-is-unenforceable/
*These motorised urban “terrorists” can act with impunity because – to be clear – not one member of An Garda Síochána is trained to pursue them. Not one. Indeed, they are not even trained to pursue a car, never mind a scrambler or an e-scooter. There isn’t any specialist pursuit unit in the pipeline, either. There are two Garda driving schools and one competency-based driving model for the organisation. Pursuit driving is covered by neither the schools nor the model and the trainers haven’t been trained in the practical application of the pursuit policy.*
*In his evidence to the justice committee, Kelly said 75 per cent of requests to pursue are authorised by control.*
*And when one of these pursuits ends badly, who stands before the court? Not the senior officer who gave verbal authorisation. It’s the driver, often a recent recruit to the force. This is something equivalent to a forklift operator on day one of his career being given the keys to a forklift and a bulky manual as the only form of on-the-job training. But of course, this would never happen with a forklift driver because there are stringent EU-wide safety standards.*…
*As things stand, the complaints process is being weaponised by the very people who use scramblers illegally. They cynically exploit the system to make complaints when something goes wrong, which is how a garda can find him or herself in the dock.*
joke… they’re just using it as an opportunity to take more money from the people rather than educating them and punishing who does bad things only.
Classic approach… congrats to you all who voted for these
This basically does the opposite of what they want the outcome to be. The people who used e-scooters how they are supposed to will stop using them and those who don’t will ignore this and continue to use e-scooters recklessly. Unless the police crack down on it and at that point may as well have just banned them
Anybody who presently owns and operates a street-legal e-scooter should point blank refuse to cooperate with this and clog up the courts. „*The Oireachtas shall not declare acts to be infringements of the law which were not so at the date of their commission.“*