Zelensky should step down. His recent decisions are irrational. He continues to sack people who are actually contributing to the war effort or are critical to the corruption. Instead he endorses people who could as well live in russia (considering their mindset)
Once it became obvious that Ukraine won the war, oligarchs began their works over securing their position in post-war Ukraine. Zelensky’s action appear to be in their interest. Ukraine won’t be able to join EU with all this oligarchy and corruption.
CompetitiveReview416 on
What happened to fedorov?
IdiotBOT1234 on
Zelensky can step down and let democracy do what it does. Maybe Federov can be elected and purge the country of Soviet corruption.
MudrakM on
Zelenskyy should step down and Fedorov should replace him. We need a competent person in power.
Predditor_86 on
Brave of them to group up like that with missiles and drones about.
ravnhjarta on
Lots of anti-Zelenksyy bots and trolls identifying themselves in these posts.
Proud-Enthusiasm-608 on
Doesn’t Zelenskyy do coke?
darwinn_69 on
I think the important thing for non-Ukrainians to remember is that being *able* to protest like this is exactly what they are fighting for.
Effective_Lab_2097 on
So I REALLY like Fedorov, but part of me wants to give Zelensky the benefit of the doubt. Having you defense minister and commander and chief fighting at what might be the most crucial point in the war can make progress really difficult. Also replacing a general with the amount of experience Syrski has is harder than replacing a defense minister who doesn’t have the military experience. The guy he is bringing in to be the new minister of defense looks really impressive and his strong military experience could really help speed up progress on the battlefield. Let’s not forget that Kyiv has a short window to bring Russia to the negotiating table before having to deal with another cold winter.
goblin_slayer4 on
Holy shit very good , Selensky must understand his actions!
Triximancer on
I know Russia almost certainly wants to see this kind of thing causing internal discord in Ukraine, but I would still be worried about stray missiles or drones hitting during this.
devinemike78 on
Syrski is the problem he Defended Ukraine well in the early days but only knows the old way to fight like the Russians. Fedorov was fighting corruption and introducing a new kind of war fare the Russians can’t understand. But Federov has upset the old corrupt institutions in Ukraine it’s a pity Zelenskyy is bowing g to Syrski and the men in the shadows in Ukraine.
TheBigBadBird on
Good job Ukrainians
Make-TFT-Fun-Again on
I think this kind of reaction is the only way Zelenskyy can justify re-hiring him again without losing support from the old guard.
waffleking9000 on
Im not sure if all gathering in the same place like this is a very good idea.
madmax177 on
It’s a Ruski conspiracy.
mediandude on
Such mass gatherings are dangerous with daily Russia’s missile barrages.
Public sentiment can be gathered with electronic petitions + electronic signatures.
Miserable_Eye8368 on
I think all those people should keep in mind the dangers of creating those crouds, a missile attack could be devastating.
BlatantlyCurious on
My thought could be obscure, but I feel like gathering like that in a country that’s actively being invaded is extremely ballsy. Don’t get me wrong, I understand the movement, to be certain, but this seems quite risky to me.
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Slava ukraini
DR320 on
Believe it or not, this is what a healthy democracy looks like (especially if positive change comes from it)
PCMRbannedme on
These comments are wild, a lot of Ukrainian political experts for sure.
SKY702 on
Account 21 days old btw guys
Dietmeister on
Not that massive I must say
But I’m all for Ukraine doing democracy like this!
Thats the hole point right, that you don’t become Russia!
Its such a hard time for Ukraine right now, but still people go out and protest, while there’s so many other things that you might think are more important to go for. That shows spirit.
Meanwhile Russians are cowering in their homes trying to convince themselves they think nothing about anything and try to convince themselves their country is the greatest and nothing needs to be changed.
That’s the difference
I salute you, Ukrainians! And we will forever support your great sense of independence, democracy and justice!
nicethingslover on
Everyone loves Fedorov because of his results and understandably so. But maybe it isn’t all him. Maybe it was also the people who actually made the things and not just „one great man“. What I am most curious about, is Syrski really the old dinosaur he is made out to be? Maybe he cares more about the soldiers in the field and maybe these are his first priority. So, what do the generals say about him? That is what I want to know.
The optics of the simple story: „young guy did new successful things, old guy is stupid dinosaur“ is an easy sell and maybe it is true but I have not found many insiders who show a little bit more critical thinking. However, with these numbers it of protesters probably it is really true and either way, it won’t really matter. Syrski has to go.
Economy-Effort3445 on
Cool. Zelenskyj will have no option than to reinstate Fedorov
Appropriate_Ad5158 on
American here, can someone please help me understand why Fedorov is so popular? It not uncommon for cabinet members here to be dismissed, by the president, but I don’t recall ever a time that this caused protests, and certainly nothing as large as I’m seeing in the video provided in the link. Thank you in advance.
Prudent-Air1922 on
Does anyone know why he was fired, and why that would generate a protest?
IRGROUP300 on
Desperate to have Palantir at the head, huh?
The people should be heard nonetheless.
Romouch on
Wtf Zelensky is doing
Nuxohiz on
Massive? I estimate about 1.500 protesters in a city of almost 3 million people. Makes it that 0.05% of Kyiv’s population is out on the street. That for an evening and an unemployment rate of 20%+ making it easy for most to demonstrate.
mugz8391 on
Not near as big as the protests against Yanukovych.
Zelenskyy is a good man and I believe he is trying to do the best he can for Ukraine. Did he make a mistake? „MAYBE“, I don’t think any of us know his thinking or the whole story. Sometimes you need to just trust.
I’m an American but I spend much of my online time trying to counter Russian propaganda and showing support for Ukraine. If I were not an old dying man, I think I might have joined Nate Vance and fought on the side of Ukraine.
Don’t bet me wrong, Fedorov seems like a good man too, but sometimes tough decisions like this have to be made.
PooInTheStreet on
Lol “massive”
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Zelensky should step down. His recent decisions are irrational. He continues to sack people who are actually contributing to the war effort or are critical to the corruption. Instead he endorses people who could as well live in russia (considering their mindset)
Once it became obvious that Ukraine won the war, oligarchs began their works over securing their position in post-war Ukraine. Zelensky’s action appear to be in their interest. Ukraine won’t be able to join EU with all this oligarchy and corruption.
What happened to fedorov?
Zelensky can step down and let democracy do what it does. Maybe Federov can be elected and purge the country of Soviet corruption.
Zelenskyy should step down and Fedorov should replace him. We need a competent person in power.
Brave of them to group up like that with missiles and drones about.
Lots of anti-Zelenksyy bots and trolls identifying themselves in these posts.
Doesn’t Zelenskyy do coke?
I think the important thing for non-Ukrainians to remember is that being *able* to protest like this is exactly what they are fighting for.
So I REALLY like Fedorov, but part of me wants to give Zelensky the benefit of the doubt. Having you defense minister and commander and chief fighting at what might be the most crucial point in the war can make progress really difficult. Also replacing a general with the amount of experience Syrski has is harder than replacing a defense minister who doesn’t have the military experience. The guy he is bringing in to be the new minister of defense looks really impressive and his strong military experience could really help speed up progress on the battlefield. Let’s not forget that Kyiv has a short window to bring Russia to the negotiating table before having to deal with another cold winter.
Holy shit very good , Selensky must understand his actions!
I know Russia almost certainly wants to see this kind of thing causing internal discord in Ukraine, but I would still be worried about stray missiles or drones hitting during this.
Syrski is the problem he Defended Ukraine well in the early days but only knows the old way to fight like the Russians. Fedorov was fighting corruption and introducing a new kind of war fare the Russians can’t understand. But Federov has upset the old corrupt institutions in Ukraine it’s a pity Zelenskyy is bowing g to Syrski and the men in the shadows in Ukraine.
Good job Ukrainians
I think this kind of reaction is the only way Zelenskyy can justify re-hiring him again without losing support from the old guard.
Im not sure if all gathering in the same place like this is a very good idea.
It’s a Ruski conspiracy.
Such mass gatherings are dangerous with daily Russia’s missile barrages.
Public sentiment can be gathered with electronic petitions + electronic signatures.
I think all those people should keep in mind the dangers of creating those crouds, a missile attack could be devastating.
My thought could be obscure, but I feel like gathering like that in a country that’s actively being invaded is extremely ballsy. Don’t get me wrong, I understand the movement, to be certain, but this seems quite risky to me.
>
Slava ukraini
Believe it or not, this is what a healthy democracy looks like (especially if positive change comes from it)
These comments are wild, a lot of Ukrainian political experts for sure.
Account 21 days old btw guys
Not that massive I must say
But I’m all for Ukraine doing democracy like this!
Thats the hole point right, that you don’t become Russia!
Its such a hard time for Ukraine right now, but still people go out and protest, while there’s so many other things that you might think are more important to go for. That shows spirit.
Meanwhile Russians are cowering in their homes trying to convince themselves they think nothing about anything and try to convince themselves their country is the greatest and nothing needs to be changed.
That’s the difference
I salute you, Ukrainians! And we will forever support your great sense of independence, democracy and justice!
Everyone loves Fedorov because of his results and understandably so. But maybe it isn’t all him. Maybe it was also the people who actually made the things and not just „one great man“. What I am most curious about, is Syrski really the old dinosaur he is made out to be? Maybe he cares more about the soldiers in the field and maybe these are his first priority. So, what do the generals say about him? That is what I want to know.
The optics of the simple story: „young guy did new successful things, old guy is stupid dinosaur“ is an easy sell and maybe it is true but I have not found many insiders who show a little bit more critical thinking. However, with these numbers it of protesters probably it is really true and either way, it won’t really matter. Syrski has to go.
Cool. Zelenskyj will have no option than to reinstate Fedorov
American here, can someone please help me understand why Fedorov is so popular? It not uncommon for cabinet members here to be dismissed, by the president, but I don’t recall ever a time that this caused protests, and certainly nothing as large as I’m seeing in the video provided in the link. Thank you in advance.
Does anyone know why he was fired, and why that would generate a protest?
Desperate to have Palantir at the head, huh?
The people should be heard nonetheless.
Wtf Zelensky is doing
Massive? I estimate about 1.500 protesters in a city of almost 3 million people. Makes it that 0.05% of Kyiv’s population is out on the street. That for an evening and an unemployment rate of 20%+ making it easy for most to demonstrate.
Not near as big as the protests against Yanukovych.
Zelenskyy is a good man and I believe he is trying to do the best he can for Ukraine. Did he make a mistake? „MAYBE“, I don’t think any of us know his thinking or the whole story. Sometimes you need to just trust.
I’m an American but I spend much of my online time trying to counter Russian propaganda and showing support for Ukraine. If I were not an old dying man, I think I might have joined Nate Vance and fought on the side of Ukraine.
Don’t bet me wrong, Fedorov seems like a good man too, but sometimes tough decisions like this have to be made.
Lol “massive”