Let’s see how well it performs in actual deployments and coding tasks
pcurve on
I’m curious… but not sure if I want to hand over my number or Google account.
VisceralMonkey on
Hahaha, this is hysterical.
-Pepperzpyre- on
Only „frontier“ level? Not „Mythos“ level? Pfffft for shame
Inventi on
I have not seen that it is open weight and already seen Kimi replies stating it’s Claude. So it’s distilled from Fable
surroundedbywolves on
What does „open-weight“ mean?
nancyso on
It’s honestly wild how fast Chinese AI labs are advancing despite all the US export restrictions on high end silicon. It really shows how much performance you can squeeze out of algorithmic optimization and sheer engineering when you’re forced to work around hardware bottlenecks
Strange-Scientist706 on
China’s basically waging the high tech version of the Opium Wars from the other side
CautiousToaster on
Further proof you don’t need Nvidia chips to get to the frontier
tacodestroyer99 on
Reddit when western AI: 😡😡🤬
Reddit when Chinese AI: 😍😍🥰
damnmaster on
China’s open source release of its AI models is basically to break the US monopoly on software.
China has realised the real money maker is in hardware not software. America’s only advantage was its AI models intelligence. But without the infrastructure to run them, it’s all for naught.
So what does China do? Heavily invest in infrastructure, and open the ai model market to everyone to create more of a strain on these big tech companies to chase being the best. All china has to do is watch all these companies throw money to beat the other because in the end they’ll all have to come to China for the data centers to run them.
We can already see how AI models are being pushed to bring individual models hosted on local data centers to prevent security breaches and for better control over output. Needing ChatGPT isn’t necessary when anyone can just build their own models to their own specifications.
It also means less data for OpenAI to get their hands on to train those models.
colablizzard on
The reason it’s open weight is because it puts pricing pressure on their competitors.
Good strategy.
Microsoft has also shot the sounding canon by releasing Kimi and MAI on GitHub Copilot. This should help them negotiate with Anthropic and OpenAI.
ozymandiez on
I have a client interested in this. They’ve reduced their openai and anthropic spend by around 80% by hosting their open weight models. The open weight models do the vast majority of the initial work, and they use lets say fable or sol ultra to check the work of the open weight/source models. Saves them around 80% of their AI spend. And if the open weight catches up to Fable or Sol. Game over for openai and anthropic man. That bubble will burst.
SkyGenie on
can’t wait to run this on my mac mini
LlorchDurden on
Antonelli!?!
nemofbaby2014 on
Is this good? They use so many buzzwords these days when in reality it’s like 2 percent better in the real world lol
unlimitednoodles on
Will the model communicate my secrets to China? Do I have to run a firewall to prevent it?
Particular-Song2587 on
The thing is China leadership and its labs are on the same page. Whilst in the USA, leadership is on bananas and the tech CEOs are busy trying to make sure Trump likes their bananas.
74389654 on
i don’t know what china is really up to but i trust them more than the bond villain circus in the us
PixelCortex on
China stuns the world with some ’new‘ (old and repackaged) technology everyday. Amazing.
ThePervyGeek90 on
I believe this is the future. Most companies will gladly trade cloud based AI for local dev AI for security reasons and it would be cheaper.
rankinrez on
How is it “open weight” and also $12 per million tokens?
TheRealestBiz on
The quality of headlines has really dropped in the past few years.
MaliciousTent on
Next up: China’s Calc model that runs on TI-84 calculators stuns AI world with near Opus 4.6 results
Well__shit on
Ahhh yes my daily Chinese are the best innovators propaganda
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Let’s see how well it performs in actual deployments and coding tasks
I’m curious… but not sure if I want to hand over my number or Google account.
Hahaha, this is hysterical.
Only „frontier“ level? Not „Mythos“ level? Pfffft for shame
I have not seen that it is open weight and already seen Kimi replies stating it’s Claude. So it’s distilled from Fable
What does „open-weight“ mean?
It’s honestly wild how fast Chinese AI labs are advancing despite all the US export restrictions on high end silicon. It really shows how much performance you can squeeze out of algorithmic optimization and sheer engineering when you’re forced to work around hardware bottlenecks
China’s basically waging the high tech version of the Opium Wars from the other side
Further proof you don’t need Nvidia chips to get to the frontier
Reddit when western AI: 😡😡🤬
Reddit when Chinese AI: 😍😍🥰
China’s open source release of its AI models is basically to break the US monopoly on software.
China has realised the real money maker is in hardware not software. America’s only advantage was its AI models intelligence. But without the infrastructure to run them, it’s all for naught.
So what does China do? Heavily invest in infrastructure, and open the ai model market to everyone to create more of a strain on these big tech companies to chase being the best. All china has to do is watch all these companies throw money to beat the other because in the end they’ll all have to come to China for the data centers to run them.
We can already see how AI models are being pushed to bring individual models hosted on local data centers to prevent security breaches and for better control over output. Needing ChatGPT isn’t necessary when anyone can just build their own models to their own specifications.
It also means less data for OpenAI to get their hands on to train those models.
The reason it’s open weight is because it puts pricing pressure on their competitors.
Good strategy.
Microsoft has also shot the sounding canon by releasing Kimi and MAI on GitHub Copilot. This should help them negotiate with Anthropic and OpenAI.
I have a client interested in this. They’ve reduced their openai and anthropic spend by around 80% by hosting their open weight models. The open weight models do the vast majority of the initial work, and they use lets say fable or sol ultra to check the work of the open weight/source models. Saves them around 80% of their AI spend. And if the open weight catches up to Fable or Sol. Game over for openai and anthropic man. That bubble will burst.
can’t wait to run this on my mac mini
Antonelli!?!
Is this good? They use so many buzzwords these days when in reality it’s like 2 percent better in the real world lol
Will the model communicate my secrets to China? Do I have to run a firewall to prevent it?
The thing is China leadership and its labs are on the same page. Whilst in the USA, leadership is on bananas and the tech CEOs are busy trying to make sure Trump likes their bananas.
i don’t know what china is really up to but i trust them more than the bond villain circus in the us
China stuns the world with some ’new‘ (old and repackaged) technology everyday. Amazing.
I believe this is the future. Most companies will gladly trade cloud based AI for local dev AI for security reasons and it would be cheaper.
How is it “open weight” and also $12 per million tokens?
The quality of headlines has really dropped in the past few years.
Next up: China’s Calc model that runs on TI-84 calculators stuns AI world with near Opus 4.6 results
Ahhh yes my daily Chinese are the best innovators propaganda