It is an understandable question, given the rate at which non-biodegradeable plastics are produced.
There’s a lot of food wrapped in plastic, and a lot of it has a shelf life of a month or more. Does this plastic break down more quickly if it gets wet? How does that affect the products it contains? If the contents are wet to begin with, or packaging doesn’t sufficiently protect the contents, it limits the usefulness.
What uses would you envision for such a plastic?
CHOLO_ORACLE on
It could just be that producing this kind of plastic is not worth the investment cost. More a parlor trick than a product.
Exo-Proctologist on
Typically its because when you are hearing about these huge miraculous breakthroughs, it’s from some pop-sci publication that is either woefully overselling what was discovered or jumping the gun on whether or not said thing was demonstrable and repeatable.
Amish_Fighter_Pilot on
Why won’t Big Brother let me eat cactus plastic like is my birthright?
LanceHardwick on
because the big eared ferengi covet commerce and think they own everything. there’s no value to them if there’s no profit.
we stupidly continue to use their systems.
Apprehensive_Ad4457 on
this is the first time i’ve heard about this.
but it’s not the first time i’ve heard about biodegradable plastics. it’s not about possibility, it’s about expense. inventing something is really cool and all, but it doesn’t matter if it’s not very feasible or profitable to manufacture.
we live in the world we live in.
red_west_la on
Plot twist – the cactus is psychoactive so people start tripping when they use spoons made from it.
questions2dum4mymain on
Devil advocate here but its cuz the media jumps on the story too early to get clicks while the logistics of cost and disadvantages havent been fully considered yet to make it a successful product
Greenbaypackwrs on
Because it’s shitty why would I want stuff made out of plastic that rotted
acrusty on
These headlines come from mostly academic research
WesTheDemon on
We never hear about things like this after the initial report because some big corporation will buy the rights, patent it and then lock it away in a vault somewhere. They do it all the time so they can keep making billions and keeping the status quo.
before686entenz on
Because they fall apart if you think about them for 2 seconds. In this case most stuff has to be in packaging a lot longer than a month.
chillbro_baggins91 on
Best guess is it isn’t practical for mass production or environmentally sustainable
Connect_Stay_137 on
That’s not really super practical tho. Most plastic goods last for longer than a month (soda for example is like 3+ months)
jetpilot_throwaway on
After the failure of paper straws, companies came out with “plastic” straws made out of plants (biodegradable). Now we’re back to regular plastic cups and straws..
steel-monkey on
They aren’t being funded because it would upset a major industry. In this case, it would upset the petroleum industry, which has trillions of dollars at its disposal to make things like this disappear… Hopefully they don’t kill her like they killed Stanley Meyer.
MechwolfMachina on
Health is not the ruling class’s greatest priority
If you look at the numbers, reducing population because some people die of plastic toxicity is what they see as a necessity to keep balance of the ecosystem. Too many people and get what we have today, falling populations. Thats where I think there is no conspiracy. People willfully choose not to wake up and put everything past them to start families and have kids. Also, boomers dont care, less competition so they dont encourage millenials and zoomers to reproduce.
OriginalOmbre on
A month isn’t nearly long enough for the processed foods to sit on a shelf for months.
TheMuffler42069 on
Can’t wait for this to never be used by any company I ever come in contact with
LocalNHBoy on
She’ll conveniently commit s*icide later this week. 🔥
bigshooTer39 on
Bc you get unalived by corporate entities threatened by your invention
TheCivilEngineer on
Most plastics are so cheap because their base chemicals are essentially waste products of oil/gas production. Until that supply of new plastic runs out, no plastic alternative, even recycled plastic, will take its place.
crankgirl on
I swear that whilst working in big pharma a number of years ago I read an article about a new anti malarial made by a not for profit. The plan was to provide it as cheaply as possible which would be a fraction of the cost of existing treatments. I had reason to think of it about 5 years later and went looking for the company and could not find it. No mention anywhere on the internet about the company or treatment.
Fade1998 on
At least in this case, because most plastics are pretty much just a byproduct of fossil fuel extraction, so they’re incredibly cheap to produce. There’s no way something like this could compete.
Investotron69 on
It’s generally because of cost or that it really can’t be done at scale. There are many things that are objectively better in many ways but just can’t get past being made a few at a time.
Andy_LaVolpe on
I mean thats cool but plastic that biogrades in a month isn’t too useful to store stuff.
Ace0Knaves on
Cause treatment is more profitable than cures and there’s established industries snuffing innovations to secure their status
dayzplayer93 on
A doctor WANTS you to get ill, its sort of their job
Pollix112 on
They are hard paper and do not get soggy
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There is no money in cures
It is an understandable question, given the rate at which non-biodegradeable plastics are produced.
There’s a lot of food wrapped in plastic, and a lot of it has a shelf life of a month or more. Does this plastic break down more quickly if it gets wet? How does that affect the products it contains? If the contents are wet to begin with, or packaging doesn’t sufficiently protect the contents, it limits the usefulness.
What uses would you envision for such a plastic?
It could just be that producing this kind of plastic is not worth the investment cost. More a parlor trick than a product.
Typically its because when you are hearing about these huge miraculous breakthroughs, it’s from some pop-sci publication that is either woefully overselling what was discovered or jumping the gun on whether or not said thing was demonstrable and repeatable.
Why won’t Big Brother let me eat cactus plastic like is my birthright?
because the big eared ferengi covet commerce and think they own everything. there’s no value to them if there’s no profit.
we stupidly continue to use their systems.
this is the first time i’ve heard about this.
but it’s not the first time i’ve heard about biodegradable plastics. it’s not about possibility, it’s about expense. inventing something is really cool and all, but it doesn’t matter if it’s not very feasible or profitable to manufacture.
we live in the world we live in.
Plot twist – the cactus is psychoactive so people start tripping when they use spoons made from it.
Devil advocate here but its cuz the media jumps on the story too early to get clicks while the logistics of cost and disadvantages havent been fully considered yet to make it a successful product
Because it’s shitty why would I want stuff made out of plastic that rotted
These headlines come from mostly academic research
We never hear about things like this after the initial report because some big corporation will buy the rights, patent it and then lock it away in a vault somewhere. They do it all the time so they can keep making billions and keeping the status quo.
Because they fall apart if you think about them for 2 seconds. In this case most stuff has to be in packaging a lot longer than a month.
Best guess is it isn’t practical for mass production or environmentally sustainable
That’s not really super practical tho. Most plastic goods last for longer than a month (soda for example is like 3+ months)
After the failure of paper straws, companies came out with “plastic” straws made out of plants (biodegradable). Now we’re back to regular plastic cups and straws..
They aren’t being funded because it would upset a major industry. In this case, it would upset the petroleum industry, which has trillions of dollars at its disposal to make things like this disappear… Hopefully they don’t kill her like they killed Stanley Meyer.
Health is not the ruling class’s greatest priority
If you look at the numbers, reducing population because some people die of plastic toxicity is what they see as a necessity to keep balance of the ecosystem. Too many people and get what we have today, falling populations. Thats where I think there is no conspiracy. People willfully choose not to wake up and put everything past them to start families and have kids. Also, boomers dont care, less competition so they dont encourage millenials and zoomers to reproduce.
A month isn’t nearly long enough for the processed foods to sit on a shelf for months.
Can’t wait for this to never be used by any company I ever come in contact with
She’ll conveniently commit s*icide later this week. 🔥
Bc you get unalived by corporate entities threatened by your invention
Most plastics are so cheap because their base chemicals are essentially waste products of oil/gas production. Until that supply of new plastic runs out, no plastic alternative, even recycled plastic, will take its place.
I swear that whilst working in big pharma a number of years ago I read an article about a new anti malarial made by a not for profit. The plan was to provide it as cheaply as possible which would be a fraction of the cost of existing treatments. I had reason to think of it about 5 years later and went looking for the company and could not find it. No mention anywhere on the internet about the company or treatment.
At least in this case, because most plastics are pretty much just a byproduct of fossil fuel extraction, so they’re incredibly cheap to produce. There’s no way something like this could compete.
It’s generally because of cost or that it really can’t be done at scale. There are many things that are objectively better in many ways but just can’t get past being made a few at a time.
I mean thats cool but plastic that biogrades in a month isn’t too useful to store stuff.
Cause treatment is more profitable than cures and there’s established industries snuffing innovations to secure their status
A doctor WANTS you to get ill, its sort of their job
They are hard paper and do not get soggy