It’s a shame that the few need to ruin it for the many. But it’s not just scumbag teens that are lethal on these things. I’ve seen grown men and women in office attire bombing it weaving in and out of moving traffic. It’s a joke.
cacamilis22 on
Less for you to do syndrome
mrbuddymcbuddyface on
Why doesn’t he support the existing legislation, and get his thousands of employees to enforce it?
insane_worrier on
Banning a sustainable vehicle because we can’t enforce laws is not great
BeardedAvenger on
Garda Commissioner will support anything that means less work for them or doesn’t require nuance or effort.
Former_Ganache3642 on
Since when are we just asking the Guards their opinions on laws all the time?? Their job is to enforce the law, not advise the government, not make moral declarations. They also recently came out and condemned the *comprehensive evidence-led* approach to drug decriminalisation.
They are not legislators and frankly their opinion is irrelevant. We put way too much stock in the opinions of Gardaí.
AdBoring9620 on
What they need is a few high profile cases of people being prosecuted, that would concentrate minds.
OldVillageNuaGuitar on
The guards weren’t willing to enforce the ban before they were legalised. The guards aren’t enforcing the rules now.
Besides, before these became the mode of transport beloved by some rule breakers, those kids were going for overpowered folding ebikes. They’d just go back to those and the problem of people speeding around and breaking the law on them would remain. it’s not that the escooter are inherently evil or something.
galway_man on
These people are so out of touch with reality. Could you imagine the same argument been made about any other form of transport? These are a legitimate form of transport for thousands of people that we should be doing all we can to promote and provide infrastructure for them not shouting „think of the children“ like idiots.
PoppedCork on
Yeah but will they enforce it?
OkCoconut3270 on
They weren’t really being enforced before, they’re barely being enforced now and they still won’t be enforced when they’re banned.
So the only thing it will achieve is to impact on the people who will respect a ban and it’ll do nothing for the people who are currently the problem as they’ll just scoot away and the gardai still won’t be allowed to chase or stop them.
It’s absolute bollocks
Little_Version8538 on
So every other country can have them but not us? How about actually enforcing the existing laws. How’d the ban on scramblers go?
BadInternational2017 on
Soundbites! Grace’s law has shown they won’t do anything on scramblers, i’ve never seen them stop anyone on escooters and they’re everyone. If they ban them they will just be bought in the north. What a load of nonsense!
Acrobatic_Task_4415 on
They never enforced it before the current laws were introduced, they haven’t enforced it with the current laws in place and won’t enforce it with any been laws legislated.. ridiculous
Lighter_Butane on
Of course he does. Standard operating procedure. Ban, ban, ban. Laughable.
Alarmed_Fee_4820 on
What’s gonna happen is law abiding citizens who use them to attend work and obey the rules will be the main ones getting penalised, but the balaclava dark cloths youths who use them for drug trafficking will continue to do what they’re currently doing. Since graces law passed, I’ve seen a number of scramblers on footpaths, weaving in and out of cars and sadly no legislation is out allowing the guards to chase them in fear of the DPP taking a case against them with prosecution.
IveNoWIlly on
And what about the people who use them legally and well within the law to commute to work? This is a case of brushing under the carpet what should be a job to our absolutely useless police force. The Garda are an embarrassment and utter disgrace to the country.
drumlins17 on
Crazy for him to mention hi-vis then when he is talking about just enforcing the law. There is no legal requirement to wear a hi-vis
IllustriousBrick1980 on
so stupid
the government need to move with the times and build sustainable cities that actually work for the people and for the way people want to commute instead of becoming increasingly authoritarian and criminalising non-car centric lifestyle
Melodic_Virus5361 on
It’s so unbelievably lazy, they are just giving up. Regulate it properly.
TheRustyPeaches on
The same way scramblers are illegal?
Entire-Constance on
Should part of the solution here not be able to promoting safe use of the things until it becomes the norm like seatbelts or wearing a helmet on a bike?
It feels lazy to say that the laws should just be enforced and even lazier to just ban them. Proper education is needed here on the risks involved in the use of the things.
MiggeldyMackDaddy on
Backwards thinking at its finest. I’m not a user of an e scooter
gpally95 on
Garda Commissioner should not be weighing in on Policy. Similar to the drug decriminalisation debate, he is a public servant, his job is to enforce the law not to create it.
jayrayx on
>E-scooters are being used „without a doubt“ to „facilitate localised drug dealing in >our communities“,
The argument is not great, could be used for cars and lots of other things.
Would be nice to ask what’s the police plan if e-scooters get banned and people ignore the ban and continue to use then anyway.
Banania2020 on
We have all seen how this works so well for scramblers 🙄
Humble_Ostrich_4610 on
As always, law abiding people will be inconvenienced, scumbags won’t care.
IndividualCoconut2 on
This is ridiculous ffs. There’s already tens of thousands of these e scooters in the country already, if not more, why should they be made illegal for the people that purchased them in good faith not knowing it could become fucking illegal shortly thereafter.
If they ban e scooters, would e bicycles be next or what? I don’t understand wtf their thinking here
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It’s a shame that the few need to ruin it for the many. But it’s not just scumbag teens that are lethal on these things. I’ve seen grown men and women in office attire bombing it weaving in and out of moving traffic. It’s a joke.
Less for you to do syndrome
Why doesn’t he support the existing legislation, and get his thousands of employees to enforce it?
Banning a sustainable vehicle because we can’t enforce laws is not great
Garda Commissioner will support anything that means less work for them or doesn’t require nuance or effort.
Since when are we just asking the Guards their opinions on laws all the time?? Their job is to enforce the law, not advise the government, not make moral declarations. They also recently came out and condemned the *comprehensive evidence-led* approach to drug decriminalisation.
They are not legislators and frankly their opinion is irrelevant. We put way too much stock in the opinions of Gardaí.
What they need is a few high profile cases of people being prosecuted, that would concentrate minds.
The guards weren’t willing to enforce the ban before they were legalised. The guards aren’t enforcing the rules now.
Besides, before these became the mode of transport beloved by some rule breakers, those kids were going for overpowered folding ebikes. They’d just go back to those and the problem of people speeding around and breaking the law on them would remain. it’s not that the escooter are inherently evil or something.
These people are so out of touch with reality. Could you imagine the same argument been made about any other form of transport? These are a legitimate form of transport for thousands of people that we should be doing all we can to promote and provide infrastructure for them not shouting „think of the children“ like idiots.
Yeah but will they enforce it?
They weren’t really being enforced before, they’re barely being enforced now and they still won’t be enforced when they’re banned.
So the only thing it will achieve is to impact on the people who will respect a ban and it’ll do nothing for the people who are currently the problem as they’ll just scoot away and the gardai still won’t be allowed to chase or stop them.
It’s absolute bollocks
So every other country can have them but not us? How about actually enforcing the existing laws. How’d the ban on scramblers go?
Soundbites! Grace’s law has shown they won’t do anything on scramblers, i’ve never seen them stop anyone on escooters and they’re everyone. If they ban them they will just be bought in the north. What a load of nonsense!
They never enforced it before the current laws were introduced, they haven’t enforced it with the current laws in place and won’t enforce it with any been laws legislated.. ridiculous
Of course he does. Standard operating procedure. Ban, ban, ban. Laughable.
What’s gonna happen is law abiding citizens who use them to attend work and obey the rules will be the main ones getting penalised, but the balaclava dark cloths youths who use them for drug trafficking will continue to do what they’re currently doing. Since graces law passed, I’ve seen a number of scramblers on footpaths, weaving in and out of cars and sadly no legislation is out allowing the guards to chase them in fear of the DPP taking a case against them with prosecution.
And what about the people who use them legally and well within the law to commute to work? This is a case of brushing under the carpet what should be a job to our absolutely useless police force. The Garda are an embarrassment and utter disgrace to the country.
Crazy for him to mention hi-vis then when he is talking about just enforcing the law. There is no legal requirement to wear a hi-vis
so stupid
the government need to move with the times and build sustainable cities that actually work for the people and for the way people want to commute instead of becoming increasingly authoritarian and criminalising non-car centric lifestyle
It’s so unbelievably lazy, they are just giving up. Regulate it properly.
The same way scramblers are illegal?
Should part of the solution here not be able to promoting safe use of the things until it becomes the norm like seatbelts or wearing a helmet on a bike?
It feels lazy to say that the laws should just be enforced and even lazier to just ban them. Proper education is needed here on the risks involved in the use of the things.
Backwards thinking at its finest. I’m not a user of an e scooter
Garda Commissioner should not be weighing in on Policy. Similar to the drug decriminalisation debate, he is a public servant, his job is to enforce the law not to create it.
>E-scooters are being used „without a doubt“ to „facilitate localised drug dealing in >our communities“,
The argument is not great, could be used for cars and lots of other things.
Would be nice to ask what’s the police plan if e-scooters get banned and people ignore the ban and continue to use then anyway.
We have all seen how this works so well for scramblers 🙄
As always, law abiding people will be inconvenienced, scumbags won’t care.
This is ridiculous ffs. There’s already tens of thousands of these e scooters in the country already, if not more, why should they be made illegal for the people that purchased them in good faith not knowing it could become fucking illegal shortly thereafter.
If they ban e scooters, would e bicycles be next or what? I don’t understand wtf their thinking here