Analyse von Daten der Allgemeinen Sozialerhebung (https://gss.norc.org/) zeigt im Vergleich von 2024 bis 1974, dass das Einkommen von Frauen prozentual höher ist als das von Männern. Vergleiche wurden mit demselben Bildungsniveau durchgeführt und die Stichprobe wurde nach Vollzeitbeschäftigten im Alter von 25 bis 64 Jahren gefiltert. Die Daten wurden mit SPSS analysiert und das Diagramm mit Excel erstellt. Viele andere Faktoren müssen noch untersucht werden und könnten zu der Ungleichheit beitragen, darunter die Art der Arbeit und der berufliche Werdegang.

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    1. Either_Issue_6510 on

      The data was downloaded from the General Social Survey, a scientific survey of U.S. residents, [https://gss.norc.org/](https://gss.norc.org/)

      Data were analyzed with SPSS and the chart created with Excel. N = 1,086 (2024) and 474 (1974).

    2. As the OP says, field of work and work history are the factors here. If pay disparity were real, companies would gain a massive competitive advantage by hiring only women.

    3. aplateofgrapes on

      The issue with looking at it this way is the same as it has always been; men and women choose different degrees and careers. When you look at careers and tenure, there is virtually no difference.

    4. It makes more sense to look at hourly wages instead of total income earned, because even among full-time workers, men work more hours on average. Once you correct for that, the gender wage gap shrinks to about 5% if you look at workers age 25-34, and about 15% if you look at all workers age 16+ (including part-time workers as well but excluding the self-employed).

      These are also very small sample sizes. There are much better data sources for this (CPS, PSID etc)

    5. hectorgarabit on

      If we look at the data visualization skills: it is as basic as it gets. No skills needed here.

      If we look at the data itself, it is very misleading, as many mentioned, comparing total earnings per degree is pointless, men and women make different choices. It also obfuscates the difference due to motherhood, differences due to number of hours worked. In short it is a lie that has been repeated and debunked ad nauseam.

    6. It’s almost like the subject matter of your expertise has some effect on your salary.

    7. What does this look like when you factor in that women have a 60/40 advantage over men in attaining college degrees?

    8. Claudia Goldin won the Nobel Prize in Economics for documenting what’s driving the pay gap.

      It’s largely the very upper echelons of high-powered, highly compensated careers, what she defined as “greedy jobs” that demand long hours and minimal distraction from home/family concerns, and penalize parenthood. Think equity partners at top tier law firms, managing directors at VC/PE firms, investment bankers, C-level executives with equity comp, etc.

      Because societal norms prevent men from taking on the primary caregiver role as often as women do, women who pick up the slack are X-ed out of these careers.

    9. Based on my internal biases, I’m assuming, for lower education positions, the gap is made by men working in higher risk, higher paying blue collar positions, and it evens out at high education as both genders work in similar white collar positions. 

    10. Usual wrong way to look at it.

      You get paid for your OCCUPATION. The overall salary in that occupation depends on: Seniority, years of experience, role, full vs. part time, advocating for raises, etc… If you look at it all it comes down to 5-7% difference based on studies.

      Blanz and Khan did several studies on this topic. Most recent form them leaned into the 5% or so difference which they attributed to women not advocating for higher pay with their negotiations.

      The below video is from Harvard and is a quick one. It states a 7% in pay.

      So the whole 20% is not true. Just MSM doing there thing and crafting their OWN narrative.

      [https://www.hks.harvard.edu/centers/wappp/teaching-and-training/3-minute-research-insights/gender-pay-gap](https://www.hks.harvard.edu/centers/wappp/teaching-and-training/3-minute-research-insights/gender-pay-gap)

    11. What causes the weird associate/junior college dip in the 1974 data? Is/was there a particular poorly-paid female-dominated field that requires/required that specific qualification that fell out of fashion?

    12. Such_seething_brains on

      Motherhood penalty. Basically the gap doesn’t really affect women without children, but can be devastating for women WITH children.

    13. As a Gen Z man, just about every woman outearns every man in our friend group. Most of us are underemployed though. 

    14. PinkynotClyde on

      Now do one for child support payments and alimony. I’d pick up way less overtime if I could get paid to have fun with my kids. 

      I don’t pay child support or pay alimony. Just think it’s interesting that all things are not equal when it comes to work and children, and yet people look at these things as though there’s no other outside variables.

    15. What the article doesn’t mention is there are only 74 men graduating for every 100 women with a 4-year degree. Women are much more likely to have higher-ed credentials among the younger generations. In some metros women in their 20s earn more than men their age, because their educational attainment is so much higher (this can be true even if BA men earn more than BA women)

    16. lumberjack_jeff on

      Men work more hours, much of which is overtime. You would expect a 15% gap for that reason alone.

    17. Elegant-Ad3236 on

      Without more granular data which compares the same or similar jobs and not just education level there are no conclusions to be drawn from this study. Women comprise 75% of teaching and sociology related jobs both of which are notoriously low paying professions.

    18. SirHenderson on

      Educational attainment literally means jack shit when plenty of people with bachelors and masters get jobs that have absolutely nothing to do with their education focus. The simple fact is men and women tend to gravitate toward certain careers and certain careers tend to pay more than others. The pay “gap” is literally as simple as that.

    19. Jumpy_Studio_4960 on

      My wife out earned me our entire relationship until next year. Been together 14 years next year.

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