Hallo! Heute habe ich gelesen dieser Artikel über Finnland, dessen Hauptargument darin besteht, dass es die starken sozialen Unterstützungssysteme Finnlands sind, die in erster Linie für das größere Glück der Finnen verantwortlich sind. Ich selbst bin über 60 Jahre alt und möchte wissen, welche Art von Gesprächen ältere Finnen über die Themen Alter und Sterben führen. Geht es in Ihren Gesprächen oft um medizinische Hilfe beim Sterben? Wie vermeide ich die Unterbringung in einem Pflegeheim? Wie kann ich mir betreutes Wohnen oder häusliche Hilfe leisten? Ich weiß, dass es unmöglich ist, das zu quantifizieren, aber ich bin sehr an Ihren Eindrücken interessiert, wie sehr diese Probleme die Gemüter der älteren Menschen in Finnland belasten. Ich frage mich, ob ein größeres Sicherheitsgefühl aufgrund stärkerer sozialer Unterstützungssysteme zu weniger Angst vor dem Altern führt oder ob diese Probleme universell sind.
Any Finns age 60 and up here? I have questions for you!
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Ok, first of all, assisted living is for all. If you have good income, it’s almost the worth of it, with low income, government comes to play and leaves you small amount of your pay. If you are able to stay at your home, it is preferred. Home assistance comes from the county and costs you some money, depending your payments. So when you are old and not so able, country tries to make your last leg good.
My mother-in-law is 92, has alzheimer’s disease and still lives independently at home. She has severe memory problems and troubles with walking. Home assistance (by the city) visits her three times daily providing necessary services (food, hygiene etc.). She’s happy with this but the relatives feel that it would be good for her to move to a nursing home. That would mean that she would have to move further away since there are no vacant places nearby.
Yes, I think that a secure old age is one of the factors behind the overall feeling of „happiness“. Although I honestly think (as a scientist) that this questionnaire doesn’t actually measure „happiness“ but instead „contentment“ – the kind of being OK and overly disappointed in life. We lack the real peaks of happiness as well as the pits of misery. So, lukewarm contentment it is. Very Finnish.
Age 60 and talking about dying? My parents are have never been busier with their hibbies st age 60!!
Sure some old folks talk about that but 60 is not yet old-old. 60 rarely ’gets’ to move to a nursing home, since people live quite long. My SO’s grandma is 94 and only recently moved to a nursing home. She does talk about dying…
Finnish nursing home model boils down to two models: private (expensive, very expensive, ee are talking about 4-6k€ per month minimum), and public. In public model the amount you pay is based on income (pension), with the idea that you pay most of your pension away (dont remember exactly, but like ~80%-90%). Service then would include basically everything (all basics).