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    1. Coffeedemon on

      It’s even worse now. He’s not doing anything to make himself or his party more electable. Nothing being proposed as an alternative platform. Just more of the same old grievance politics.

      We need a credible alternative to the liberals. Not just something most people would look at and say „yeah this sucks but look how bad it could have been!“

    2. If you told Conservatives after the 2025 election the position they would be in today, they would be horrified. They thought Carney would be easily beatable and when the Liberals won a minority, they dismissed 2025 as an anomaly and expected the PM’s fortunes to change pretty quickly. Many thought 2025 would mark a delay, not a denial, of Poilievre becoming prime minister. Instead, the Liberals have secured a majority through Conservative MPs and have led in the polls for 15 months (after Poilievre lead for the first 30 months of his leadership).

      They couldn’t foresee Carney overcoming the weight of Trudeau. Yet today, Carney has done such an effective job in distinguishing himself from Trudeau, Carney can now hug Trudeau, as he did on Canada Day, and face no blow back for doing so. It’s just stunning how ill-prepared the party was to the change in Liberal leadership, and how the party has still failed, 15 months on, to successfully pose a challenge to Carney.

    3. I think Pierre realizes that the brainless but passionate group of voters he appeals to is too small to get him elected. As a 20 year career politician, he might just care a lot less about winning than it would appear – the opposition bench is still a seat

    4. Theseactuallydo on

      Who can lead them next though?

      Jivani is the closest thing to an heir apparent, but picking him would just be doubling down on everything that has caused to Poilievre struggle. 

      The conservative base of 2026 will never accept a moderate, and even if they did why would general election voters pick a Temu version of Mark Carney who hangs out with bigots instead of the real Mark Carney? 

    5. Lenovo_Driver on

      Polyev isn’t going anywhere, he loves feeling important and he loves mooching off of tax payers..

      If he stepped down he literally would not know what do with himself.

      His only experience outside of politics is being a paperboy.

    6. Cynical_Ticket on

      Honestly at this point I just vote NDP and hope for the best. NDP as the opposition would be an amazing thing for Canada. It would hamper Carney’s more capitalistic side and prevent bigotry from having a political stool to stand on

    7. I say this as someone who voted for Pierre Poilievre: I think it’s time for him to resign as CPC leader.

      He went from having a massive polling lead, to losing the election, to losing his own seat, to watching the Liberals turn a minority into a majority partly because Conservative MPs were willing to leave his caucus. Even now, with Carney already holding a majority, Poilievre is still somehow the one attracting bad press and creating headlines about Conservative instability.

      The Martel Senate appointment is just the latest example. It opens up another by-election the CPC may not even be guaranteed to hold.

      At some point, this stops being bad luck and starts being a leadership problem.

    8. mummified_cosmonaut on

      There is absolutely no point replacing Poilievre while the Liberals are still wearing their Trump Invincibility Shield. Any new Conservative leader would just accrue wear and tear while making little or no headway. They could wheel Joe Clark out of the nursing home and he would be immediately proclaimed as the new face of maple maga and blah, blah, blah.

      You would have to dynamite through Diefenbaker’s concrete tomb to find a Conservative with credible America-skeptic bona fides.

    9. Ok_Carpenter7268 on

      The tone of his speeches of late always seem to be the same tone. It’s either ‚The liberals made the wrong choice, I would have done this‘, OR, ‚The liberals made the right choice, but I would have gotten a better deal‘.

      He honestly just comes across as someone who’s still bitter and angry that he lost the election, and his opposition to anything the Liberals do, doesn’t come across as being in good faith, so much as it is, ‚what did the Liberals do? Doesn’t matter; just say it’s bad. And if anything good came from it, it was in spite of what the Liberals did, not because of it.‘ It’s just sustained negativity and it’s just making more and more people tune him out. And at some point, the CPC has to realize that even if PP leaves, the party’s image will still be tied to his brand, which will made it harder for them to attract moderates to join them.

    10. Folks, they know that PP is unelectable, not to mention a complete weenie. They are keeping him in position until such time as it seems like an election could even happen (this is also why the man isn’t saying anything new, because it won’t achieve anything.) Replacing him now just allows their next choice to go stale.

      They will wait until Carney’s popularity starts to wane. Then they’ll allow an heir apparent to start making noise, and substitute them in for PP when it’s convenient. Suddenly the fresh name will have novelty value. It’s their best shot to wrest power back.

    11. CommercialNo8396 on

      It’s honestly astonishing that the CPC has let this go on for so long. Losing the election and his seat should have been the wake up call. Add in the sham of the leadership review and STILL nothing has changed. He’s just double downed on identity politics which lost him the election on the first place. An effective HOC needs an opposition that has a clear plan and platform and the only thing that is coming from the CPC right now is “woke bad liberal bad”. Watching the NDP making strides at the expense of the CPC needs to be the last straw.

    12. yellowplums on

      If people are getting annoyed with Pierre now, they’re going to be shocked when Pierre loses the next election and the base insist that he must remain leader again lol.

      I hope everyone understands, the base of the CPC **do not want anyone else even if they can beat Carney, they only want Pierre and if he loses, they still want Pierre to be there forever.**

      Pierre is clever enough anyway to keep a tight grip on who can talk to the media and also makes sure there aren’t too many up and comers or a strong bench; no competitors makes it easier to stay in power. You’re going to see Pierre and the Karen Haircut™ (shout out to you if you know who this is hehe) and The Milkman™ for the next 10 years at least, without exaggerating.

    13. OttoVonDisraeli on

      The Conservatives have yet to identify the winning strategy or message. They’re speaking to the base. I got a fundraising call from them a few weeks ago and it was so aggressive and absurdly anti-Carney. They also asked me to give me a fair bit of money too. I said no 4 times before the fella for the message. That type of rhetoric works on someone, but it’s clearly not designed for me.

      They’ve learned nothing since the election.

    14. bandersnatching on

      This is a silly premise.

      Pierre is making a good living, and is ensuring that his enablers are too. Why would he leave? He has no where else to go. It’s unlikely that a university or „think tank“ or corporate board would give him something to do.

      Moreover, there is no one of stature to replace him. Certainly not Andy the milquetoast, or Melissa the wolverine, or creepy Jamil. And corporate opportunists aren’t going to give up their current income streams to fight Carney for five years, or even if they win, to solve Canada’s big problems. It’s far, far easier and more lucrative in corporate.

      We are stuck with Pierre and his fellow gravy suckers until the unlikely chance that he gets a better offer.

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