Ist die Behauptung der LDP wahr, dass „der Kaiser durch eine ununterbrochene kaiserliche Abstammungslinie seit dem ersten Kaiser Jimmu erfolgreich war, die nur durch männliche Abstammung aufrechterhalten wurde“? Experten zufolge basiert es nicht auf empirischen Untersuchungen, und „das Kind der Kaiserin hat auch das Recht auf die Thronfolge“.
https://mainichi.jp/articles/20260630/k00/00m/040/284000c
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Because it’s not true the exclusion of women was implemented during the Meiji restoration when they were trying to copy Salic law.
I think they had better consider the gender of Amaterasu, the Emperor’s ancestor.
In keeping with Royalty Rules, it should be by Man descent. Scientists do not define royalty. Get lost!
Of course it’s not true. The classical records have some emperors living to be 200 years old!
It wasn’t uncommon for palace ladies to have affairs back then, so unbroken male lineage is not proven. But then again the ancient royals were inbred like shit so it probably doesn’t matter. They all have an imperial ancestor somewhere.
There’s been legit empressess before. Multiple during the Asuka and Nara periods. Pretty sure that it was an empress that established Nara as a capital in the first place, ironic given which end of the country Takaichi is from.
This doesn’t require an expert to dispell this is like 20 seconds on the Wikipedia list page.
No surprise since LDP is stuffed full of dodgy old men and women who think women are incapable of doing anything beyond being mothers.
Here’s the official genealogy: [https://www.kunaicho.go.jp/learn/about/kosei/keizu.html](https://www.kunaicho.go.jp/learn/about/kosei/keizu.html)
Interesting that the last 8 generations have had a single successor recognized. 9 generations ago there was a split that then jumped to the current lineage (Emperor 118 to 119). Dunno why that happened, but could be there’s another bloodline running from that subdued lineage.
Another split happened in the 1300s (Emperor 99 to 100), which I think is more curious from a genealogical viewpoint. That’s during the Nambokucho period, where there were 2 warring thrones (Southern and Northern Courts (that’s why you see 5 「北」 emperors before it shifts over to #100)). The Southern Court was the incumbent, but got ousted by the Northern court, and the Northern Court persists to today. Funny thing is, though, that in 1911 Emperor Meiji decreed that the Southern Court was, indeed, the official lineage… despite being of the Northern Court lineage. And that decision was made by recognizing that the Southern Court held all 3 of the imperial regalia… until they gave them over to the Northern Court in a bid to unify the lineages, but didn’t do so well for them.
Lots of good details here (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanboku-ch%C5%8D_period) but its a really fascinating… anomaly?… in Japanese history. Both the Southern and Northern courts are legit bloodlines, but the Southern Court is historically and officially recognized as the legitimate line, even though the Northern Court is the one that has been on the throne for centuries.
There are some other splits too – none nearly as contentious as the Nambokucho though – so there’s potentially a bunch of „wild“ imperial descendants running around silently or secretly.
Anyway, the question that I have is this: when are we gonna see a reality TV show searching for male and female descendants of ancient imperial bloodlines across Japan through DNA testing and then putting them all together in a house and see who falls in love?
Call it… Amate***rabu***?
Also the fact that there isn’t solid evidence for the first several emperors existing, or at least not for them existing in the way they are depicted traditionally (e.g. even if Jimmu did exist, he likely did not unify Japan, since the archeological record and Ancient Chinese records tell us that Japan was still politically fragmented at that point in time).
Political gymnastics for sexism adopted with colonialism
Strictly speaking, yes, the claim that the imperial lineage has continued unbroken through the male line has substance.
It is true that there have been eight Empress Regnants of Japan: Empress Suiko, Empress Kogyoku/Saimei (same individual, reigned two times non-consecutively), Empress Jito, Empress Genmei, Empress Gensho (the daughter of Empress Genmei), Empress Koken/Shotoku (again the same individual who reigned twice), Empress Meisho, and Empress Go-Sakuramachi.
However, the detail upon which the LDP’s claim relies on is that all of these empresses were daughters of Emperors or Imperial Princes. Even in the case of Empress Gensho, who succeeded her mother Empress Genmei, as sovereign, her father was Prince Kusanabe (a first cousin of Genmei), supporting the argument that Empresses regnant have all been male-line descendants.
Technically its true. All emperors and empresses can be traced back to the first emperor via their fathers lineage.