Good, student accommodation is needed and we can’t keep building 5-6 story buildings. Hopefully it sets a precedent in the area for residential developments. That being said it’ll most likely be benefiting foreign students as Irish ones will be priced out.
cedardesk on
I don’t get the complaint about a lack of sunlight. This will mostly only cast a shadow on the canal and, to the back of it, the Croke Park hotel?
EnvironmentalShift25 on
Build lots of 14 storey (or more) apartments buildings please.
whereohwhereohwhere on
I’m not a nimby by any stretch, but privately owned student housing is not helping the student accommodation crisis or the housing crisis writ large. The flats are outrageously expensive and are basically aimed at rich international students. Irish students moving up to Dublin for college will not be living there.
throughthehills2 on
Pls let this pass judicial review and set a precedent for tall buildings in the capital
charman458 on
Country needs to learn that buildings can go up
Guru-Pancho on
Gannon’s objections seem a bit odd. Building something like this will free up affordable housing in the area that is otherwise being rented by students. A private developer has gone for this building type because there is a profit in it. There isnt a profit in building the affordable housing locals need so it will never be built privately but somehting like this allows existing affordable properties to be freed up for use by locals rather than student renting.
Its pretty central in Dublin. Its beside an already enormous building so its not realllly out of place. I’m sure overshadowing studies will already have been done (only valid reason for objection from locals really) and despite what Gannon says, theres still not enough student accommodation. He’s a bit wrong on this one tbh
SoloWingPixy88 on
This is what you kind of need in that area. Maybe not just student accomadation but whole area probably needs to be levelled and rebuilt.
VitaminRitalin on
If it was a hotel they would let it be built and then the owners would make noise complaints about croke park.
Remarkable_Yam_3574 on
Double it
elec-pick on
>Residents have around four weeks to lodge an appeal against the decision with An Coimisiún Pleanála.
It’ll 100% be appealed, only costs €50, be interesting to see what ACP do with it.
No votes in student accommodation:
>Local Social Democrats TD Gary Gannon said this development is not what is needed in the area.
>Local Labour TD Marie Sherlock said she is “very disappointed” over the decision, adding that any development in the area should be of a residential nature.
EmergencyComment101 on
Is this real student accomodation? Or will it just be overpriced, deemed a failure and be repurposed as apartments so the developers can avoid having to build them to the standard of actual apartments?
culdusaq on
Could have been a great vape shop.
wrghf on
Ireland in general needs far more densification in basically every area of society and apartment-style buildings like this are part of it.
Developments like this are a good thing.
CiaranC on
More building is good but I have mixed feelings about privately owned ’student accommodation‘
It’s ludicrously expensive and seems catered towards mostly international students.
What happens to it when term is off? Do the rooms sit empty?
AstellaW on
How can it be excessive when the country is crying out for more accommodation. It’s not like it’s being built in the middle of nowhere it’s practically the city centre ffs
Ill_Celebration_4215 on
love it. keep keep keep building.
lichink on
About time ireland starts getting what 3rd world countries had for years.
Ill_Celebration_4215 on
purpose built student accommodation is such an obvious win. quick and relatively cheap to build. would free up close to 100k rental homes in the country when all done. massive win for rental pressure.
Unlikely_Ad6219 on
FOURTEEN STORIES!?
Is there even oxygen that high? What happens if the international space station hits it? Won’t someone please think of our poor suffering skyline?
iecaff on
I’m sceptical it will remain as genuine student accommodation. I think they will follow the same route as others in the city and set the prices unrealistically high. Then use this as „evidence“ to DCC to change use to short term lets. [https://www.dublininquirer.com/student-housing-sitting-empty-converts-to-short-term-lets-but-for-how-long/](https://www.dublininquirer.com/student-housing-sitting-empty-converts-to-short-term-lets-but-for-how-long/)
I’m not sure if taller buildings with large maintenance costs for lifts and fire systems would ever be a realistic option for affordable student accommodation. They would be better as apartments.
keanehoodies on
„It’s out of character with the street of red brick houses“
Why is this defence constantly raised? Yes its intentionally out of character as the time period in which these red brick houses has long since passed and designing and developing to the character of the 1940s is stupid as it it isnt the 1940s anymore.
wascallywabbit666 on
>Local residents say the height and scale of the development is out of character with the street of redbrick terraced housing
Personally I’d say traditional redbrick terraced housing is out of character with a prominent city centre location
padrot on
Let’s go!!! We need to start building upwards.
elec-pick on
Croke park made an observation. Part of which was that they didn’t want balconies overlooking the stadium as people would congregate there to watch games.
Height I don’t see a problem with, but the composition of the units is definitely something that probably needs to be looked at…
> The spaces are made up of six, seven, and eight bedroom units and 26 studios with shared kitchen and living areas.
Didn’t we only recently shoot down a major „co-living“ building plan in the last few years? The plans for this building look very similar in terms of lack of personal amenities…
Pure-Ice5527 on
Brilliant! Hopefully 14 becomes the norm in the city centre rather than low rise that’s forcing sprawl and causing traffic, flooding and all sorts of chaos around Dublin.
Next we might go a weeee bit higher and help solve the housing crisis without making others.
WickerMan111 on
The height and scale of the development is out of character with the area.
Total-Programmer8741 on
Croke park itself is “excessive”
Some-Speed-6290 on
„Out of character“
Everyone agrees that change is needed. Well that has to start somewhere and the first few buildings will necessarily be „out of character“ as part of development
RomIsTheRealWaifu on
Good
Relation_Familiar on
Good . Now build a 20 storey one and so on
razakii on
Everything modern is labelled as „excessive“
Poisedbutten83 on
We can’t do this, we can’t risk looking like a 1st world country for the first time ever
jd2300 on
What dickhead of a journalist framed this as “excessive”
frankbrett2017 on
But muh Georgian skyline
Alien_Gods on
They’ll mostly accept international students and charge them 3k per room 😂
francescoli on
They need to build dozens of tall apartment blocks within 15 mins walk of the city centre .
painstaking_virgil on
Croke Park’s company won’t suffer. Dublin needs proper density near the city.
stevewithcats on
That great news , nimbys can go do one.
Keyann on
Croke Park themselves cite the stadium as 17 storeys in height so the height argument from them doesn’t hold water. The cynic in me believes Croke Park are in objection because it may afford them goodwill with the residents when it comes to negotiating concert deals.
hatrickpatrick on
This is a glorified co-living development if you look at the details. Student accomodation is needed, but not like this. Eight beds to a unit? You’d have literally zero privacy or sense of independence.
bd027763 on
14 storey is already considered excessive even in the Capital?
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Great. Build some for non-students too.
Good, student accommodation is needed and we can’t keep building 5-6 story buildings. Hopefully it sets a precedent in the area for residential developments. That being said it’ll most likely be benefiting foreign students as Irish ones will be priced out.
I don’t get the complaint about a lack of sunlight. This will mostly only cast a shadow on the canal and, to the back of it, the Croke Park hotel?
Build lots of 14 storey (or more) apartments buildings please.
I’m not a nimby by any stretch, but privately owned student housing is not helping the student accommodation crisis or the housing crisis writ large. The flats are outrageously expensive and are basically aimed at rich international students. Irish students moving up to Dublin for college will not be living there.
Pls let this pass judicial review and set a precedent for tall buildings in the capital
Country needs to learn that buildings can go up
Gannon’s objections seem a bit odd. Building something like this will free up affordable housing in the area that is otherwise being rented by students. A private developer has gone for this building type because there is a profit in it. There isnt a profit in building the affordable housing locals need so it will never be built privately but somehting like this allows existing affordable properties to be freed up for use by locals rather than student renting.
Its pretty central in Dublin. Its beside an already enormous building so its not realllly out of place. I’m sure overshadowing studies will already have been done (only valid reason for objection from locals really) and despite what Gannon says, theres still not enough student accommodation. He’s a bit wrong on this one tbh
This is what you kind of need in that area. Maybe not just student accomadation but whole area probably needs to be levelled and rebuilt.
If it was a hotel they would let it be built and then the owners would make noise complaints about croke park.
Double it
>Residents have around four weeks to lodge an appeal against the decision with An Coimisiún Pleanála.
It’ll 100% be appealed, only costs €50, be interesting to see what ACP do with it.
No votes in student accommodation:
>Local Social Democrats TD Gary Gannon said this development is not what is needed in the area.
>Local Labour TD Marie Sherlock said she is “very disappointed” over the decision, adding that any development in the area should be of a residential nature.
Is this real student accomodation? Or will it just be overpriced, deemed a failure and be repurposed as apartments so the developers can avoid having to build them to the standard of actual apartments?
Could have been a great vape shop.
Ireland in general needs far more densification in basically every area of society and apartment-style buildings like this are part of it.
Developments like this are a good thing.
More building is good but I have mixed feelings about privately owned ’student accommodation‘
It’s ludicrously expensive and seems catered towards mostly international students.
What happens to it when term is off? Do the rooms sit empty?
How can it be excessive when the country is crying out for more accommodation. It’s not like it’s being built in the middle of nowhere it’s practically the city centre ffs
love it. keep keep keep building.
About time ireland starts getting what 3rd world countries had for years.
purpose built student accommodation is such an obvious win. quick and relatively cheap to build. would free up close to 100k rental homes in the country when all done. massive win for rental pressure.
FOURTEEN STORIES!?
Is there even oxygen that high? What happens if the international space station hits it? Won’t someone please think of our poor suffering skyline?
I’m sceptical it will remain as genuine student accommodation. I think they will follow the same route as others in the city and set the prices unrealistically high. Then use this as „evidence“ to DCC to change use to short term lets. [https://www.dublininquirer.com/student-housing-sitting-empty-converts-to-short-term-lets-but-for-how-long/](https://www.dublininquirer.com/student-housing-sitting-empty-converts-to-short-term-lets-but-for-how-long/)
I’m not sure if taller buildings with large maintenance costs for lifts and fire systems would ever be a realistic option for affordable student accommodation. They would be better as apartments.
„It’s out of character with the street of red brick houses“
Why is this defence constantly raised? Yes its intentionally out of character as the time period in which these red brick houses has long since passed and designing and developing to the character of the 1940s is stupid as it it isnt the 1940s anymore.
>Local residents say the height and scale of the development is out of character with the street of redbrick terraced housing
Personally I’d say traditional redbrick terraced housing is out of character with a prominent city centre location
Let’s go!!! We need to start building upwards.
Croke park made an observation. Part of which was that they didn’t want balconies overlooking the stadium as people would congregate there to watch games.
They don’t do themselves any favours …..
[https://webapps.dublincity.ie/PublicAccess_Live/Document/ViewDocument?id=D60538B983C74225A6CBBF57DDB5D25C](https://webapps.dublincity.ie/PublicAccess_Live/Document/ViewDocument?id=D60538B983C74225A6CBBF57DDB5D25C)
Height I don’t see a problem with, but the composition of the units is definitely something that probably needs to be looked at…
> The spaces are made up of six, seven, and eight bedroom units and 26 studios with shared kitchen and living areas.
Didn’t we only recently shoot down a major „co-living“ building plan in the last few years? The plans for this building look very similar in terms of lack of personal amenities…
Brilliant! Hopefully 14 becomes the norm in the city centre rather than low rise that’s forcing sprawl and causing traffic, flooding and all sorts of chaos around Dublin.
Next we might go a weeee bit higher and help solve the housing crisis without making others.
The height and scale of the development is out of character with the area.
Croke park itself is “excessive”
„Out of character“
Everyone agrees that change is needed. Well that has to start somewhere and the first few buildings will necessarily be „out of character“ as part of development
Good
Good . Now build a 20 storey one and so on
Everything modern is labelled as „excessive“
We can’t do this, we can’t risk looking like a 1st world country for the first time ever
What dickhead of a journalist framed this as “excessive”
But muh Georgian skyline
They’ll mostly accept international students and charge them 3k per room 😂
They need to build dozens of tall apartment blocks within 15 mins walk of the city centre .
Croke Park’s company won’t suffer. Dublin needs proper density near the city.
That great news , nimbys can go do one.
Croke Park themselves cite the stadium as 17 storeys in height so the height argument from them doesn’t hold water. The cynic in me believes Croke Park are in objection because it may afford them goodwill with the residents when it comes to negotiating concert deals.
This is a glorified co-living development if you look at the details. Student accomodation is needed, but not like this. Eight beds to a unit? You’d have literally zero privacy or sense of independence.
14 storey is already considered excessive even in the Capital?