I can believe it. When i was looking last year, family kept pushing for me to get a larger condo and therefore a larger mortgage.
I’m very happy with what i settled on and not feeling like I’m drowing each month from bills.
LadyoftheOak on
Our mortgage was 1/2 what it costs to maybe rent a townhouse near us.
I can not fathom spending over $2500 a month to rent/buy. That is insane! The mortgage is just the base.
You made a sound decision based on you. Smart move. 👍🇨🇦
matt95110 on
The one thing they never seem to mention when getting a pre-approval is that you don’t have to use the entire amount. It is actually a bad idea to give a realtor the number the bank gave you because they will only show you properties that uses the whole amount.
sgtmattie on
As someone who is going to buy in the next couple years, I’d be really curious to see how much these mortgages are compared to household income. Hard to make a conclusion or decision without knowing the actual numbers.
UniversityNew9254 on
Former construction-type guy here. Houses have become ridiculously priced (new and used). I’ve had several types of homes over the years- condos, fixer uppers, higher-end, etc. After getting cleaned out in a divorce I bought an inexpensive mobile home and did some work to it. Small space living has huge advantages. I am extremely happy with that move and wish I’d gone that route a couple of decades ago. Life has become much simpler and my income goes towards fun and experiences now.
NocD on
Not overly surprising, I’ve been tracking my local market for a while now and I think there is a pretty strong incentive to push towards the higher end of your budget. You are paying such a high premium for land, any land, that additional spend can go a long way on the quality of the actual home.
Your bog standard post-war 1000sq ft bungalow with maybe a finished basement with a half kitchen is listing for 600k and usually selling for 650+. From what I’ve noticed, there’s a massive qualitative difference looking at the 700-750 range. When the difference between a starter home and something the kids will fight over is „only“ another 100-150k and you’re already in for 600, it seems to make sense to go that way.
Maybe put another way, the discount for buying things on the „cheap“ end doesn’t seem to amount for much. I can understand the fixation on single family homes in my market when the condos, townhouses and duplexes are still 70-80% of the price of a standalone.
raisecain on
Was approved for 850 bought under 600k. On one hand, Thank god we did given our mortgage renewal. On the other , hate how much work we have to do now.
Le1bn1z on
In a severe supply shortage where you are highly motivated to not be left without, I think you get a version of the jug of pennies econ experiment.
An econ prof will offer a jug of change for auction. Students are invited to estimate the total amount and bid on it. The highest bid wins the jug.
Here’s the thing, though – for a bunch of psych reasons that don’t matter enough to explain, students are willing to incrementally creep up their bids in response to the market pressure of other bids. They take into account other bids to reassess their own bid, and then weigh the odds of the real number being a bit higher than the current highest bid.
This leads to a distribution of bids with at least some overestimation.
The bid is „won“ by whoever *most overestimated* the value of the jug, thus losing cash but winning an important lesson in economics.
The worst estimate of value in one direction always „wins“.
Obviously, this is most pronounced in those inexperienced in the process.
And the whole set up is a lot like the housing market:
There is a limited supply that a larger and majority inexperienced demand pool bids on. The highest bid wins, which means the highest overestimation of value in exchange for mortgage obligation wins.
In such an environment, you would expect a lot of overbids relative to value, and buyers sentiment to reflect that.
This also underlines the critical importance of mortgage stress test rules, as a shield against overbidding.
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I can believe it. When i was looking last year, family kept pushing for me to get a larger condo and therefore a larger mortgage.
I’m very happy with what i settled on and not feeling like I’m drowing each month from bills.
Our mortgage was 1/2 what it costs to maybe rent a townhouse near us.
I can not fathom spending over $2500 a month to rent/buy. That is insane! The mortgage is just the base.
You made a sound decision based on you. Smart move. 👍🇨🇦
The one thing they never seem to mention when getting a pre-approval is that you don’t have to use the entire amount. It is actually a bad idea to give a realtor the number the bank gave you because they will only show you properties that uses the whole amount.
As someone who is going to buy in the next couple years, I’d be really curious to see how much these mortgages are compared to household income. Hard to make a conclusion or decision without knowing the actual numbers.
Former construction-type guy here. Houses have become ridiculously priced (new and used). I’ve had several types of homes over the years- condos, fixer uppers, higher-end, etc. After getting cleaned out in a divorce I bought an inexpensive mobile home and did some work to it. Small space living has huge advantages. I am extremely happy with that move and wish I’d gone that route a couple of decades ago. Life has become much simpler and my income goes towards fun and experiences now.
Not overly surprising, I’ve been tracking my local market for a while now and I think there is a pretty strong incentive to push towards the higher end of your budget. You are paying such a high premium for land, any land, that additional spend can go a long way on the quality of the actual home.
Your bog standard post-war 1000sq ft bungalow with maybe a finished basement with a half kitchen is listing for 600k and usually selling for 650+. From what I’ve noticed, there’s a massive qualitative difference looking at the 700-750 range. When the difference between a starter home and something the kids will fight over is „only“ another 100-150k and you’re already in for 600, it seems to make sense to go that way.
Maybe put another way, the discount for buying things on the „cheap“ end doesn’t seem to amount for much. I can understand the fixation on single family homes in my market when the condos, townhouses and duplexes are still 70-80% of the price of a standalone.
Was approved for 850 bought under 600k. On one hand, Thank god we did given our mortgage renewal. On the other , hate how much work we have to do now.
In a severe supply shortage where you are highly motivated to not be left without, I think you get a version of the jug of pennies econ experiment.
An econ prof will offer a jug of change for auction. Students are invited to estimate the total amount and bid on it. The highest bid wins the jug.
Here’s the thing, though – for a bunch of psych reasons that don’t matter enough to explain, students are willing to incrementally creep up their bids in response to the market pressure of other bids. They take into account other bids to reassess their own bid, and then weigh the odds of the real number being a bit higher than the current highest bid.
This leads to a distribution of bids with at least some overestimation.
The bid is „won“ by whoever *most overestimated* the value of the jug, thus losing cash but winning an important lesson in economics.
The worst estimate of value in one direction always „wins“.
Obviously, this is most pronounced in those inexperienced in the process.
And the whole set up is a lot like the housing market:
There is a limited supply that a larger and majority inexperienced demand pool bids on. The highest bid wins, which means the highest overestimation of value in exchange for mortgage obligation wins.
In such an environment, you would expect a lot of overbids relative to value, and buyers sentiment to reflect that.
This also underlines the critical importance of mortgage stress test rules, as a shield against overbidding.