Unsere führenden Politiker zögern weiterhin, konkrete Maßnahmen gegen den Klimawandel zu ergreifen, oft mit der Ausrede, dass die meisten Menschen die Dinge, die getan werden müssen, nicht unterstützen.
Anhand dessen, was ich letzte Woche hier auf reddit gesehen habe, ist es ganz klar, dass die meisten Leute hier wirklich glauben, dass wir wirklich etwas ändern müssen, um die Richtung zu ändern, in die wir mit dem Klima gehen, und dass die Regierung politische Änderungen vornehmen und konkrete Maßnahmen ergreifen muss, um uns auf den Teil des Klimawandels vorzubereiten, der bereits unvermeidlich geworden ist.
Wenn Sie gehört werden möchten, blockieren Sie bitte Ihren Kalender für den 11. Oktober und senden Sie Ihren Freunden und Ihrer Familie eine Nachricht, damit sie dasselbe tun. Legen Sie außerdem einige Wochen vor der Veranstaltung eine Erinnerung fest, damit Sie es nicht vergessen und am Ende nicht hingehen, und erinnern Sie dann auch Ihre Familie und Freunde daran.
Denken Sie daran: Unternehmen werden nichts ändern, bis sie dazu gezwungen werden, und Wenn sich nichts ändert, wird es immer schlimmer
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Von rcyclingisdawae
25 Kommentare
Lets hope the organisation still exists in October with how the NVA is committing to a red scare
Lol no.
Do I believe something needs to change? Yes.
Do I feel like politicians aren’t doing shit? Yes.
Do I believe protesting will change a thing? No.
The government clearly said for the general strike earlier this year that we can protest but they don’t care.
What came out of all the protests that happened weekly end of the 2010’s? Nothing. These politician fools don’t give a shit. Plus, when you see the orange fool not give a fuck about this, even pulling out of the Paris thingy. China does not give a fuck. Etc. What little Belgium is going to change? We’re screwed and all the coming generations as well.
Do you want to pay more taxes? That’s the only thing they will change. That and paper straws.
If I had any hope that it’d change something, I might. Unfortunately you need to go to a VOKA meeting instead of a public protest if you want this government to listen to you.
Fine to march for change, but what change are we talking about?
What are our demands?
If there’s anything this whole straight of Hormuz fiasco has taught me, it’s how enmeshed petroleum is in the economy and our lives as a whole.
Starting with the basics, to keep the current economic and trade model work:
– mining: dependent on diesel
– farming: dependent on diesel and petroleum extraction derivatives such as sulfur for fertilizer
– cargo: by sea, dependent on diesel
– cargo: by air, dependent on jet fuel
– cargo: by road, dependent on diesel. Can be electrified but this in turn is dependent on mining and production of raw earth materials, see first point
– electronics: dependent on lithium and plastics
– medical equipment: plastics
– construction: steel and concrete. See point 1
So we’d need a short term, low hanging fruit plan, and a long term, difficult transition-the-economy plan.
And both plans have to be strategically agreed and implemented agnostic of political party in power.
Where’s the organising for that?
What will a march achieve, in and of itself?
What is that going to resolve? Can you not march in the countries that actually cause the pollution?
everyone should join because everyone knows the only thing that can stop climate change is taxes. it is proven facts like in:
https://preview.redd.it/k6axiark61ah1.jpeg?width=1164&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=83f1e534c9a465e24fa33039d2e6bd58fcb71894
Yes let us all protest for more regulation in Europe to make our economic decline even faster, while the USA and China don’t care and install AC systems.
I will be in attendance
ITT: lots of apathetic upper middle class people nitpicking something to avoid feeling a moral responsibility to do something.
Ja, ga maar lekker nog meer de boel opstinken in Brussel met al jullie broeistofgassen.
Why not do the protest in India/Pakistan/Bangladesh etc?
as a citizen i think there is only a few things that i can do that really matter.
1) i vote.
2) i sign petitions that need to be heard in congress if they present themselves.
all the rest is air.
No, I dont think the climate will be intimidated by this march
I do not join climate protests anymore. The last one was 2018 I think (ironically a warm day in december).
Not because I am a disbeliever, but because I’ve started noticing that when people push politics to take measures, they try to either
– micro manage the naughty consumers and not the actual problem at the source;
– invest in a belief set and cling on to it religiously, like dismantling the nuclear power capacity and replace them with gas plants – result: they just keep running as long as they are cheap enough – and discredit the green movement in the process
– invest in sources that require heavy maintenance, have a big ecological impact of their own, or are based on unrealistic ideas about how energy transportation works or is supposed to work while energy is hardly transportable at all (offshore wind, mining lithium), use up large amounts of land,or have a life span that is shorter than the whole energy transition (replacing energy sources) is supposed to take (solar);
– start damaging the economy with no clear benefit.
If climate protests are there to push politicians to do more of this type of thing, I pass.
I’m afraid the only thing that could be done is run for positions yourself, vote for people who will follow up on their promises, and support / sign petitions that will make it to the right organizations. And, unfortunately, even that won’t do anything. Because the deck is just way too stacked against the good guys.
I do not want to support degrowth. I do want to support a green energy transition and solutions. Which one is it?
I don’t want degrowth. Europe and European, Western companies are doing a lot.
Nu maak je het moeilijk:
– Vandaag was eerst Greenpeace aan de beurt met hun spandoek. Misschien toch wel geld aan hun storten.
– Nu vragen jullie mijn support omdat het een paar dagen heet was,
– Maar ondertussen kloppen ook de dierenasielen aan mijn deur omdat dieren ook hulp nodig hebben in de zomer.
– En ik verwacht binnen enkele uren een mail van amnesty international dat het ook warm is in Palestina en Soedan. (Ze kunnen toch zeker niet onderdoen voor die groene jongers!!!)
– en tegelijkertijd mag ik mijn windows en Onedrive niet meer gebruiken omdat het USA big Tech is
– en mijn dochters moeten hun Ipad vervangen omdat het een symbool van de USA is.
Kan ik een GoFundMe starten om alles te bekostigen zodat ik geaccepteerd word op reddit/Belgium?
everybody under this umbrella is making climate mitigation and adaptation impossible so no
Alleen als’t nie regent! /s
(de gemiddelde Belg waarschijnlijk)
Lol, no.
The only thing we’ve done is increased our cost of living massively whilst America and Asian countries increase their pollution.
The best thing we can do is decrease our population. Massive difference between where I live, country side with many trees which I’ve planted, and the city. To give everyone access to this way of living, the population needs to drop. But green parties will never vote for this, as it would mean a strict halt to immigration as well.
I only ever joined one protest, in the runup to and against the 2003 Iraq war, and I’m not planning to add a second protest to my resume any time soon.
Please explain to me what we can do when China produces 30-40% of the carbon emissions and then the big container ships to transport those goods add like 20% more emissions.
Should we do something, sure but we should really be honest with ourselves that anything we do in Belgium is only a little droplet in a giant bucket.
We as individuals can only do so much, but personally what I have been doing is drive an EV (yes I know it pollutes somewhere, but less local pollution), full energy sufficient house (except in winter), planted more trees (which will give shade and cooling in 15 years or so)