Roboter werden 700.000 Zusteller ersetzen, warnt der Chef des E-Commerce-Riesen
Robots will replace 700K delivery workers, warns head of e-commerce giant
Roboter werden 700.000 Zusteller ersetzen, warnt der Chef des E-Commerce-Riesen
Robots will replace 700K delivery workers, warns head of e-commerce giant
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jd.coms founder says robots will handle all their deliveries sooner or later. They got deals with schools to retrain the 700k couriers for fixing bots.
China already has over 300 million gig workers and youth jobless over 16 percent. this change is coming but the timing could mess up a lot of lives before it settles.
And yet the simple-minded keep insisting that blue collar jobs will be left untouched…
Those ones pictures have been “trailed” in England for 5+ years now but haven’t caught on at all
My Waymo ride was smooth AF. Yikes….
The mod requires I add more words now because my response is too short and gets removed. Oh, the joys of current technology
lol ok what robots then ? cause the ones they have now suck major cock
I saw one of these run into a tree in the city the other day, it just stayed there. Pretty sure it gave up
Stuck robots will create traffic jams and, basically, the equivalent of flooding.
No they won’t. And the heads of e-commerce giants and tech companies can continue to say this, but the reality is so far off.
The robots pictured are absolute garbage in general, they’ve been rolling around European cities for nearly 10 years and no person or business that I know has ever used one.
Drone deliveries? One is literally closing down this week in my country after 50 million in investment because nobody wants to use the fucking noisy, annoying things.
Humanoid robots? Can’t walk without falling over and are worth a fortune. Hardly going to be walking around in public where they’ll either fall into a canal or be ripped apart for their valuable parts.
Self driving delivery trucks? Self driving cars can’t even be trusted with a human behind the steering wheel.
This is a cope headline from a company that probably has billions invested in robotics.
edit: typo
edit2: just spent an hour of my life on a back and forth argument with somebody in the comments about this and only now did I check his comment history and realise how much I have truly wasted my own time. Outjerked by a certified freak. Don’t waste your time arguing with people online.
I like when I get the robot because I don’t have to tip and I know my food hasn’t been tampered with by a delivery driver
Won’t work in dense cities like London. People will get annoyed and yobs will kick them over.
Anything that saves a company money will get implemented. Go to any factory and look for people. I guarantee you that there are fewer people in that factory than there were 10 years ago. That’s why I quit industrial engineering 20 years ago.
I think he means that generally these things have an actual human trailing behind them somewhere, making sure they get to their destination. I saw a guy in a bike following one and asked him what was up. And he said it was the easiest job he had ever had.
How heavy are these things? It feels like it’ll be easy to drop a faraday net over them and just steal them, including the contents 🤔
Two things need to happen:
* Company needs to be fined for traffic violations of their bot workers
* Company needs to pay taxes for their bot workers
Who do they warn? The same people they are replacing? Probably to give everyone time to go to college and learn a real job that will be replace by AI also?
I’m waiting for these companies to also ask us to tip these robots.
I would say that the interesting thing is not the ramifications of this. We all know this was going to happen and that it would have massive impact on a global scale.
The interesting thing is that we might be able to use the gig-workers as a canary letting us know where this will
Impact the most. IMO gig-work should never have existed for anyone over 18.
Countries that have large amount of gig-workers will very likely be the first to be hit with a massive unemployment boom. Made worse for the country if it has some kind of unemployment benefit that will add cost.
Right now, no-body in power is willing to talk solutions (dynamic international tax rules modifying the company’s tax burden based on number of human employees vs. revenue and median company compensation vs. local standard) and until unemployment starts hitting +10% in the western world nothing is going to change. But the pain will continue to build as people eat through savings.
>**The number of gig workers in China** — including delivery drivers, chauffeurs, and factory workers on temporary contracts — is expected to reach about **320 million this year,**
This is insane. (The total workforce is 734 million people.)
I don’t think this is the way the future is going. These robots can hold, what, one or two parcels simultaneously? Even accounting for wages, in what world is that going to be more efficient or cost effective than one person delivering 120 parcels in a single van?
in the spirit of soccer these would be bullied (kicked) into obsolescence in both high and low trust societies
Snake Oil will displace 700k workers warns snake oil salesman.
Unless they come with universal basic income, those robots are not going to last long, just a guess.
I read this and I despair for the future of humanity. For so many people, delivery jobs are the only thing they can get. Especially in this worldwide economy. How are people supposed to live? Yay, progress, but what is the plan? Does *any* government have one?
Unemployment is only at….. *slurps extra spit*
One percent look at that. One per- it’s amazing, we’re doing numbers like nobody-
Robot deliveries will never catch on.. I mean, how will that robot ring my doorbell and wait for me to answer and not just dump my parcel on the doorstep and run away?
This in China, so it’s not going be stolen with all them cameras. This can operate 24/7 and in bad weathers. People were talking about one child policy in China’s going to lead to Chinese unable to take care of its their massive aging population, but the robotic revolution going on their can fill in the gaps and let the younger generation take care of the elderly.
I don’t think many delivery workers had this as their long term strategy anyway.
Few people currently doing food delivery plan to do this until retirement.
So this will not hit as hard as other industries.
There is some risk of these things getting vandalized and stolen, but there is also a very real danger of food delivery workers getting robbed. It happens all the time.
If little Jawa kidnap your delivery droids to scavenge them for RAM and other valuables that is less of a hit than a delivery boy getting stabbed while delivering to an empty lot.
So overall not really that dramatic.
I do find it a bit ironic that even in the most dystopian cyber punk novels of my youth pizza delivery was seen as one of the remaining jobs and one of the four sectors that America would still dominate in an age of globalization.
>“When it gets down to it — talking trade balances here — once we’ve brain-drained all our technology into other countries, once things have evened out, they’re making cars in Bolivia and microwave ovens in Tadzhikistan and selling them here — once our edge in natural resources has been made irrelevant by giant Hong Kong ships and dirigibles that can ship North Dakota all the way to New Zealand for a nickel — once the Invisible Hand has taken away all those historical inequities and smeared them out into a broad global layer of what a Pakistani brickmaker would consider to be prosperity — y’know what? There’s only four things we do better than anyone else:
music
movies
microcode (software)
high-speed pizza delivery”
― Neal Stephenson, Snow Crash
Great, so now our orders will arrive delayed, missing, delivered to wrong address or robbed. If I order to an apartment building, I want it at my door, I don’t want to be running around looking for a stuck robot.
Same robots that people have been tipping over and vandalizing. Won’t last long.
Who are we kidding. The boomers won’t use a self-checkout, nothing will make them walk 3 extra steps to pick up their food from a robot.
The greatest con is that people believe that they are autonomous and not being driven by a bunch of Eastern Europeans.
This is a GOOD thing.
What makes this bad is capitalism.
In a human-friendly world, machines replacing 700k jobs would mean: 700k people no longer have to work, they can enjoy their time. Or the remaing NECESSARY work is split among everyone and everyone has to work a little less now.
In a capitalistic world, our world, machines replacing 700k jobs means: 700k people lose their livelihood and are FORCED to find another bs-job that has no actual meaning, but must be done to earn money to make a living. And if they can’t find a job, screw these people. Tough luck.
I really hope people in the world figure this out sooner rather than later and start rebelling against the capitalistic approach of technological progress. Technological progress should benefit the people, not make the rich richer.