Valve sagt, dass die Unternehmen, die RAM herstellen, ihnen einen Preis geben und wenn sie Nein sagen, „reden sie nie wieder mit uns“
https://kotaku.com/valve-says-the-companies-making-ram-give-them-a-price-and-if-they-say-no-they-never-talk-to-us-again-2000709575
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This is what you get when you essentially have a cartel in control of supply.
wHo nEEDs VALve MaChinE WheN yOU hAVE ai?
Valve will remember them in several years when the market crashes.
Suppliers have never cared about small customers. Small customers are much more costly while generating very little revenue. It doesn’t matter how public or „important“ they seem. I’ve seen hardware vendors drop US military suppliers because their support burden was too great. If you are not a whale customer you are not worth their time.
We love Ai Data Centers, don’t we everyone?
Wow it must suck a bunch to have terms unilaterally dictated to you in order to access a market with no effective recourse or alternatives.
Show us who hurt you. Well make them pay for this…
There are three issues with the Steam Machine pricing.
One is absolutely that component cost has increased, this is not their fault and they are competing with many deep-pocketed customers including the trillion-dollar tech companies. They can either take what they’re offered or start shucking RAM from Amazon boxes they buy on sale.
Two is that Valve wants to cut an immediate profit so they won’t sell it on razor margins or subsidize it and risk assuming you’ll buy games on their platform (which does nearly 100% of PC game sales).
Third is that Gabe probably needs a billion bucks for his next new yacht, when he gets tired of living on his $500m yacht, which will likely be repurposed into a cigar lounge and whiskey bar.
These ram companies need to be named and noted.
When other manufacturers or technological breakthroughs lower the extreme current demand, these companies need to be completely bypassed in the new supply chain and economically starved by all of us.
They think that they’re untouchable; whether they are or aren’t right now, they won’t be forever.
Time to get into the RAM market Gabe.
Only way out of this mess now is innovation. They’re just gonna keep burning up supply.
Having had worked with Micron and Samsung directly, yeah the semi conductor teams are fucking assholes and dint even accept blanket POs anymore. You pay up front to top it off.
Probably because all those server farms for the LLMs are gobbling up all the RAM.
I love data centres, to help them out I’ll bring my water hose and sprinkle them to keep them cool. I’m doing my bit
Bro I love capitalism. It’s so good now, I’ve always hated cheap pc parts. I’ve been a big proponent of jacking up RAM and GPUs prices
Went to order 10 Surface Pros from CDW. Got the quote Tuesday morning, they wouldn’t honor it the next day because prices had already increased.
Nintendo character. Lime-colored outfit.
I will savor the bursting of this bubble, along with the companies and personal fortunes it will destroy.
Every one of them deserve exactly what they’re going to inevitably get. Our species is hubris incarnate.
When’s valve’s first ram sticks droppin?
I mean yeah? People seem to vastly overestimate Valve’s position here. They might move a few million units? That’s not the volume the big customers buy…
WE MUST SEIZE THE MEANS OF PRODUCTION. GABEN – BUY THE MINES AND BUY THE FACTORIES!!!!
Valve going to start making their own ram.
I can’t wait until they’re a commodity again
So, Gabe RAM when?
what’s stopping valve from getting into the the manufacturer sector and making this shit?
three companies make all the ram in the world. „take it or leave it“ isn’t a power move when there’s nowhere else to go. it’s just what a market with three suppliers looks like.
Nothing to see here, just cartels doing cartel things.
[https://youtu.be/jVzeHTlWIDY](https://youtu.be/jVzeHTlWIDY)
This is what happens when an entire sector only contains 3 manufacturers and one company (AI) buys everything they have. That AI bubble can’t burst soon enough.
We need China to overcapacity DRAM.
Ahh, the joys of hardware B2B 🤣
That’s what happens when only 3 companies produce ram
FUCKING RAM CARTEL
its not really an uncommon thing.
I watched a TCG store owner talk about how he has to purchase lackluster sets from middlemen inorder to keep good terms with them.
A suit was filed against them again about 10 years ago, but the judged ruled in their favour because there wasn’t enough evidence.
I have no doubt they were engaging in that conduct (and likely still are), but there wasn’t enough evidence available at the time (or political will to launch the appropriate investigations) to fully prosecute the case.
How about I go on Steam and try to set my own price for games there. This is how buying stuff works when you dont have any negotiating power. The seller offers a price and you take it or leave it.
valve basically got a take it or leave it on ram prices huh
I can not wait to send valve $1500
Like what do you want? You said no
It’s time for valve to start making their own chips
Damn man, i can’t wait for China to finally catch up the ram industry and bust this fucking cartel up.
So is this the current AI hardware price fixing boldness or have these companies always been this level of shit except with normal pricing it was never a big deal?
Ahh I forgot these fucks already got in trouble for this but it was like 20+ years ago.